...The best "person at home" detection I can recall reading about was a parking switch for a car in the garage. But I can't seem to find the thread to link to from here...You might of been referring to my post, http://forums.x10.com/index.php?topic=8304.msg71554#msg71554 (http://forums.x10.com/index.php?topic=8304.msg71554#msg71554).
You might of been referring to my post, http://forums.x10.com/index.php?topic=8304.msg71554#msg71554 (http://forums.x10.com/index.php?topic=8304.msg71554#msg71554).
I have been looking for some type of logic software as well. Home domination works on xp but I had no success with vista 64.
I have never had much success with the flags in AHP to accomplish any type of logic. If you are looking for ideas, it would be nice to see software that works on these modes, that can be disabled or enabled manually or automatically by the software when events occur.
Ex Motion sensor 1 tripped outside, the motion sensor 2 tripped inside front door within a certain time frame to indicate you have entered your premises, mode set to "at home" automatically and announced by text to speech with a greeting. Instead of minimal evening lighting occurring at dusk, the system would know you are home and set brighter evening lighting.
I downloaded visual basic 2008 express to start working on creating something to accomplish these tasks but I am no programmer. Bill and tuiceman seem to be miles ahead and adding this functionality to their already great programs would be great.
I seen something on youtube that had a door mate and a censer on it that would tell the computer someone was at the door and if they had a censer in the shoe that would say the persons name once they came into the house...
The wife and I have 2 separate garage doors and each has its own set of commands and macros to work accordingly for each of our purpose. ........Still don't have the DS7000 working with AHP yet due to the 3.236v issues
....... Still don't have the DS7000 working with AHP yet due to the 3.236v issues
...I would need to use a 12 volt relay that would cause the ON signal to be sent when the car/truck is started... and then (reversed) so an OFF signal would be sent when the car/truck is turned off. Is there a mechanic here that could ofter any info/advice as to how or where to connect such a device....Well I'm not a mechanic but turning the key to start is a momentary connection. So I'm not sure if tapping the starter line would be a good idea but in theory it would work.
... I foresee.. when you initially turn the key, ACC comes on, but ACC goes off when the starter is engaged.
...if there is a circuit that is more associated with a running engine.Do your car doors lock when the engine is started?
Do your car doors lock when the engine is started?
What about PHOTO-ELECTRIC switches to "count cars"?
I am trying to make a directional sensor.
Let's me know when I enter an area or leave an area by using the direction the person is moving.
I need to put 2 eagle sensors side by side and restrain the viewing area of the sensor to see only strait out and parallel to each other.
Need to lessen the repeated signals from a room sensor eg Bathroom. no need to keep repeating a signal for the period of time you are there.
I am trying to make a directional sensor.
Let's me know when I enter an area or leave an area by using the direction the person is moving.
I need to put 2 eagle sensors side by side and restrain the viewing area of the sensor to see only strait out and parallel to each other.
Need to lessen the repeated signals from a room sensor eg Bathroom. :P no need to keep repeating a signal for the period of time you are there.
The whole goal for me to try and get away from the multiple signals it creates, did try it as you have said but the overlapping of signals makes it hopeless and end up with a light that flashes on and off quickly B:(.
I am already overloaded in RF traffic from other sensors and/or their heartbeats.
But another idea -:) is going to try and use a Beam of light similar to ones used for Garage door openers safety cutoff, and Hack it into say a Power Flash or Universal module.
That would give me less traffic and hopefully a more efficient response trigger of the light.
OK... after many hours of hanging around the Home Automation Chat (http://bdshost.com/ac/) asking questions and fishing for ideas. I popped the hood on a SlimFire (KR19A) remote and poked around a bit. By scraping off contact areas on the little board... I was able to short-out the circuit and cause a signal to be sent. (an image is attached)
I selected the KR19A because when a button is pressed it sends the signal for about two seconds... then stops. This should allow me to automate the button pushing using just one relay... and yet NOT flood the airways with RF signals.
The goal is to send an ON signal when a car starts. Then when the car is turned off send an OFF signal. Hence... an OFF signal could only mean the car is home. A relay connected to the car/trucks radio harness... borrowing a little power to operate a relay... should short-out the remote and send the proper signals.
I often create YouTube videos of my projects (http://www.youtube.com/suitmanIM).... this project isn't too different. Except this time I decided to create the video as I experimented. I call the video "Trials, errors and tests (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cjo_o580g0)". It is a (I think humorous) glimpse into my modifications.
Enjoy. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cjo_o580g0)
Nothing like the smell of burning insulation in the morning!
But if I can configure a parking device to merely detect the parked car.... that could work.this is where i thought the photo-electric eye would detect the parked car
this is where i thought the photo-electric eye would detect the parked car
This one's a little pricey but you get the idea. http://primechimes.net/dwa3.html I think I'll try using some sort of a metal detector.
..... anything that moves.
...The best "person at home" detection I can recall reading about was a parking switch for a car in the garage. But I can't seem to find the thread to link to from here...
You might of been referring to my post, http://forums.x10.com/index.php?topic=8304.msg71554#msg71554 (http://forums.x10.com/index.php?topic=8304.msg71554#msg71554).
That mechanical switch finally failed and I switched a different arrangement that has a pressure switch attached to a plastic tube.
I live alone so detecting my presence is substantially easier than it would be for multiple people.
I have been kicking around the idea of using RFID for occupancy snesing. Here is an interesting web site for RF on the cheap. http://www.trossenrobotics.com/store/p/5378-Parallax-RFID-Card-Reader-Serial-.aspx
OH I have one of those RFID Reader Boards. Got mine through Parallax, but it is the same unit.
I've been away from the forum for a while and was reading this thread and thought what about a ds1o mounted on the car and a larger magnet mounted on the floor where the car pulled into, AHP should be able to tell which ds10 it is whoever parked in a spot, ds10 open your gone -ds10 closed your home. yes?
Mount an eagle eye motion detector on/in each car .... I could open the correct garage door when I pull up. Will it work?
I seem to get a lot of false triggers, my doors would probably be going up and down all night.
Dave, I know you've already thought about this, but it's probably worth mentioning to others.
... the idea of a vehicle opening your home completely is pretty scary.
See, I said you'd already thought of it :)
Did you ever get the bugs worked out of your surveillance robot?
....I've kind of taken a few comments from this thread (thanks raster69273 and jadams77) and the Toggle Macro thread (thanks wayneaking) to come up with this idea.
I do have away of detecting if both my wife and I (there are only the two of us left in the household) leave in the same vehicle. I activate a "No One Home" Macro via a wireless wall switch as we exit into the garage.
... "6 ways of monitoring who is at home (http://www.cocoontech.com/portal/articles/guides/home-automation/53-6-ways-of-monitoring-who-is-at-home)". Where Dan [electron] calls the Status Button, Method #3. Method #6, the Security System might be useful as well.
... I activate a "No One Home" Macro via a wireless wall switch as we exit ..This turns on exterior cameras and does other stuff when we leave.
... If more than three family members, just install another wireless switch.
Just a quick thought on security...
Imagine the scenario... You get mugged and your keys are stolen. Your friendly neighborhood mugger uses your car remote to locate your vehicle and drives it away. He then uses your GPS system (or your car registration if you're low-tech) to locate where you live.
Just a quick thought on security...
Imagine the scenario... You get mugged and your keys are stolen. Your friendly neighborhood mugger uses your car remote to locate your vehicle and drives it away. He then uses your GPS system (or your car registration if you're low-tech) to locate where you live.
Maybe a Secert Knock (lock) (http://www.break.com/index/secret-knock-lock.html) would do the trick. Also see: http://grathio.com/
I also are investigating the use of a Bluetooth device that may be a better solution.
www.emxinc.com/pdf-access-controls/blueguard.pdf
Each of the family members who has a bluetooth enabled phone will be detected as soon as they are in range (30 feet).
The system hopefully will be able to detect each person & send a different signal for each one.
Jim Lipsit has a great HA system and also successfully used auto sensors. Check the link below. Notice the alternate use of the X-10 flash module.
http://www.james.lipsit.com/smart_car_sensor.htm
The Visionic products can be found at:
MCT-302 Transmitter http://www.visonic.com/Products/Wireless-Property-Protection/Door-window-contact-mct-302 (http://www.visonic.com/Products/Wireless-Property-Protection/Door-window-contact-mct-302)
MCR-304 Receiver http://www.visonic.com/Products/Wireless-Property-Protection/Receiver-mcr-304 (http://www.visonic.com/Products/Wireless-Property-Protection/Receiver-mcr-304)
ITguy
... One draw back if your running wireless cams you'll have to possibly wire them, or move them, and or move your receivers!
OK Dave_x10_L,
You can try this Schlage electronic door lock. Schlage LiNK Wireless Keypad Entry Lever Lock What else? You can also lock / unlock your house if you're away via your cell phone or Internet connection.
Dumb question here: If using an old retired phone, how do you keep the cell phone from affiliating (or trying to affiliate) with the local provider network? Even though the phone has been de-registered from the system, it will continually try to affiliate, won't it? Maybe that isn't a problem since it is powered by the auto lighter cord. ???
I wonder if there isn't a way to disable the transmitter(?).
... how do you keep the cell phone from affiliating (or trying to affiliate) with the local provider network? ...... it will continually try to affiliate, won't it? I wonder if there isn't a way to disable the transmitter(?).
I was wondering the same thing... wouldn't a cell phone continue to "check-in" with the nearest cell tower?
......... Another thing I thought may work for sensing the car and would still be of practical use are different car bluetooth devices for hands free phone use. A quick google search got me to this site http://www.driveblue.com/ (http://www.driveblue.com/) which has a number of bluetooth hands free devices available. I am guessing that BlueWatch would see the bluetooth signal from these devices much like it would see your phone.
The only issue I can see with something like this is it may be a leach on your car battery if powered at all times, but shouldn't suck much more power than an old cell phone on it's charger.
How ever I suspect it would continually look for a tower until it found a signal(a real battery killer with my other Phone).
Does anyone know if the "Airplane mode" (inhibits receiver, control channel scanning, and probably transmitter in the phone) in newer cell phones also shut down Bluetooth?
I think it is only within the last year and on higher end phones that I have seen it as a feature. I am pretty certain it shuts down all the RF functions in the phone but still allows playing with pictures, stored MP3 files, PDA use, etc. It probably does have to shut down Bluetooth also.Does anyone know if the "Airplane mode" (inhibits receiver, control channel scanning, and probably transmitter in the phone) in newer cell phones also shut down Bluetooth?
I'd never even heard of airplane mode.
Steve!....have you done this before?? roflWhich part? Using standalone mode or the "polite" telling the person next to me to mind their own business? rofl
...Once in the air, I wait for the pilot's go-ahead for, "approved electronics use" and I turn the phone back on -- with all connections still off...My initial post was somewhat intended to be a tongue-in-creek response as I don't fly often but I would be curious as to what, if any, responses you've encountered using your electronics in airline mode on planes.
...Once in the air, I wait for the pilot's go-ahead for, "approved electronics use" and I turn the phone back on -- with all connections still off...My initial post was somewhat intended to be a tongue-in-creek response as I don't fly often but I would be curious as to what, if any, responses you've encountered using your electronics in airline mode on planes.