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Title: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: ITguy on December 16, 2009, 09:43:41 PM
Hi folks,

I just found out that TJ has made the latest version of iHouse Home Automation a free beta.  Even though officially a beta release, it's pretty bugfree and, in my experience, completely reliable.  It's available for download at:
http://www.ihousehomeautomation.com/ (http://www.ihousehomeautomation.com/)

Documentation regarding installation and the macro language is available on the iHouse forum.  The macro documentation doesn't yet cover the latest macro features... because I'm writing it...and I'm slow.  :)

Give it a try and let us know what you think.  Please post any support questions to the iHouse forum.

ITguy

Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: HA Dave on December 17, 2009, 10:02:19 AM
..I just found out that TJ has made the latest version of iHouse Home Automation a free beta. It's available for download at:
http://www.ihousehomeautomation.com/ (http://www.ihousehomeautomation.com/)
..... The macro documentation doesn't yet cover the latest macro features... because I'm writing it...and I'm slow. Give it a try and let us know what you think.  Please post any support questions to the iHouse forum.

A brief look at ihouse.... makes it look pretty impressive! Is it a complete replacement for AHP (and everyother software my HA PC uses)? Does it play nice with the CM15A? Will it work on my olf P3 XP PC? How much will it cost... once we're addicted to it?
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: HA Dave on December 17, 2009, 10:38:27 AM
I just Downloaded ihouse to take a look at it and play with it. All I can say is... OMG.
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: eagle on December 17, 2009, 10:42:49 AM
Hi Dave,

Looks pretty nice and it uses z-wave technology.

Do you see this as a possible replacement to AHP and related plugins or just a complement?

I'll reserve judgment to you and other experts here.

r,
eagle
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: HA Dave on December 17, 2009, 11:02:41 AM
Do you see this as the replacement to AHP and related plugins?

I haven't figured out the software completely yet. The software itself does have a clean profession look to it. It is however different than anything I have ever used before. Yet it seems intuitive enough... I feel like I can figure it out enough to use it without reading a manual.

I was impressed enough that I will be setting up a test PC to put it through some paces.

The timing is a little off [for me] though. Being Christian.. this is festive high holy days of sorts for us (we call it Christmas). Sorta like "recycle days" (in May) are for environmentalist's. But as soon as the new year passes... I will be testing ihouse.
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: ITguy on December 17, 2009, 03:23:21 PM
Hi guys,

I thought you'd like it!

Answers to a few of the questions:

Yes, it plays nice with the CM15A and the VA12A as well.  Currently the VA12A needs to be on the iHouse server computer along with the CM15A. 

The server can be pretty lightweight.  I'm using an old Dell laptop with XP.  The clients, of course, can be even lighter.  A P3 or above should be plenty.

Yes, iHouse should be able to completely replace AHP and plugins eventually.  I haven't used AHP for anything except controlling the "transceive" functions in the CM15A since I installed iHouse a couple of months ago.

The current version does not have the ability for you to view cameras over the web.  TJ is working on it, but it's gonna be a while.  The good news is that iHouse can control Blue Iris camera software even if it's on a totally different computer on your network.  Instructions will be in the user manual, but until I get that written, just look for a "how to" post coming soon on the iHouse forum.

ITguy
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: ttrolinger on December 17, 2009, 06:54:30 PM
Hello Everyone,
Thanks ITguy for posting all the iHouse info here. I think you are quickly becoming the spokes person for iHouse and I am happy about that because I usually spend most of my time coding.
I do think I should answer the general question "will iHouse remain freeware". The answer is YES! I don’t have any plans to make profit from this software. Matter of fact, once it moves out of the beta stage, I am considering making it open source. Anyway, you are welcome to download it and try it and if you like it keep it. If you do keep and use it, we would appreciate your participation in the iHouse forums http://www.ihousehomeautomation.com/phpBB/ (http://www.ihousehomeautomation.com/phpBB/) to continue  working out the bugs and features or maybe even help other users work out installation and configuration issues.
TJ
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: mike on December 17, 2009, 09:10:46 PM
BEST NEWS FOR US AHP USERS SINCE X10 QUIT UPDATING AHP YEARS AGO!

Please add a donate button to your page so we  can at least buy the beer for your late night coding fun!
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: Don N on December 27, 2009, 12:37:36 AM
This is great software.  In a matter of a few days I've "mastered" the creation of Macros, setting up Areas, installing cameras and connecting to the local weather station.  I've made some mistakes along the way ... but thanks to TJ an ITguy's guidance ... everything works great.  I would have to say the software is very robust.  Believe me some of my screw-ups would have definitely "killed" lessor software packages.

Give it a try if you have a chance.  It's a lot of fun.  And a great product.
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: hawk1 on December 27, 2009, 08:22:48 AM
I agree!  I can only see this software getting better and better!  The macros are easy.  This software has the potential to be everything we want ahp to be.  I agree with Don N completely!  Give it a try!  And for freeware you can't beat the price!  Good job TJ and ITGuy!   #:)    >!
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: hawk1 on January 14, 2010, 03:03:49 PM
Youse guys need to really take a look at what Ihousehomeautomation is doing!  They just incorporated a video server/client into their software!  This means you can have as many cams as you want on any ihouse server or client and see them on both client and server!   I just loaded the new version today and all I can say is SWEET!!!!!!!! >!

http://www.ihousehomeautomation.com
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: yancy on January 14, 2010, 03:18:11 PM
Hey hawk1,

Glad to hear you have it running already.  I've also been working with iHouse the past 2 weeks and have already fully replaced all functionality I had been using with AHP, plus added more with the great Macro capability.  I'm looking forward to the new Cam capabilities as I plan on having a 3 node configuration and the use of multiple camera monitoring.  One feature I really like is the ability to launch external apps through macros.  This allows me to add some WAF by giving her the ability to launch iTunes so she can play her music off my client device.

Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: ITguy on January 14, 2010, 03:39:17 PM
Just to expand on yancy's and hawk1's comments...

The video-server function let's you serve video from whatever machine has your VA11A or VA12A attached - the video-server does not have to be the same PC as the iHouse server.  It will also work with almost any other USB "video-capture" device, with the exception of the newer versions of the Pinnacle "Dazzle" series.  And you can record the video on that same server, then play it back on any iHouse server or client on your network!

Check it out, I think you'll like it.

ITguy
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: Rocket J Squirrel on January 14, 2010, 06:32:49 PM
If only iHouse could download macros and timers into the CM15A.
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: hawk1 on January 14, 2010, 06:43:11 PM
That would be nice!  I don't see that happening though.   B:(
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: yancy on January 14, 2010, 11:19:22 PM
If only iHouse could download macros and timers into the CM15A.

What would be the purpose?
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: hawk1 on January 15, 2010, 10:27:40 AM
For users that what or need to disconnect from their pc and plug into another outlet closer to the center of their system.  That way they don't have to run a server 24/7.  They can just have everything loaded into the cm15 and plug it in anywhere.
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: eagle on January 15, 2010, 10:43:16 AM
Hi hawk,

I was under the impression that you have to have a pc running 24/7 for iHouse because everything is done from the app and that you don't upload anything to the CM15A.

Am I off track?

r,
eagle
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: yancy on January 15, 2010, 11:00:32 AM
Eagle,

As I understand it, iHouse is meant to be run 24/7, at least from the iHouse server.  There is also a lot of added functionality in iHouse, as well as some undiscovered capabilities with it's Macro functionality, that can't be ported to the CM15, or wouldn't even work without a running PC.  One very key example is the Camera functionality, and the ability to start recording to your hard drive.  There is no need to utilize the old X10 VCR Recording functionality (who uses VCR's anymore?).

That was the basis for my previous question as to why still use the CM15 download.

If you are looking at the traditional CM15 approach, running it offline from a PC, AHP can still be used to program it for those purposes.

IMHO.

Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: eagle on January 15, 2010, 11:21:45 AM
Thanks yancy.

That is how I understand iHouse operates.

Yes, it would be nice if iHouse had the ability to download macros and timers to the CM15A but you never know .... if x10 was able to do it, I'm confident tjtrolinger can do the same.  :)

I actually have downloaded iHouse and will be testing it this weekend.

Even at its current state, it appears to be a superb complement/replacement to AHP and related plug-ins.

What's a big, big, big plus to me is the fact that the developer tjtrolinger along with itguy are actively fielding and responding to questions, requests, and feedback.   So, we know that any issues we might have will be addressed and won't fall to deaf ears.

r,
eagle
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: hawk1 on January 15, 2010, 12:01:30 PM
Yes, Ihouse is a server 24/7 home automation system.  I was just answering a question WHY users would want to download to the cm15.  I always have my cm15 connected to my pc for camera functions and I like turning things on and off from my pc.  But.... some users don't like to do this or have other reasons why they want to disconnect. (range issues, etc....)
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: eagle on January 15, 2010, 12:10:47 PM
Thank you sir.  :)

r,
eagle
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: hawk1 on January 15, 2010, 12:17:27 PM
Your Welcome.   >!
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: dbemowsk on January 15, 2010, 01:50:28 PM
Setting it up to do that shouldn't be that hard.  If you've ever looked at the myhouse.ahx file in a text editor, you would see that it is just a simple XML file that stores your rooms, modules, and macros.  This file is easy to use in an xml parser, I don't see why it would be hard to add modules and macros to it.

Dan B.
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: hawk1 on January 15, 2010, 02:58:30 PM
Still need a way to download to the cm15.   B:(
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: ttrolinger on January 15, 2010, 06:21:11 PM
All, I am humbled by all the discussion of iHouse here. I am very happy that many of you that have tried it are making good use of the software.

I thought I would jump in here to say that downloading macros to the CM15A is not currently a feature nor likely will it be in the future. The reason, as already described  by a few here, is that that would limit iHouse macro functionality to only those things the CM15A was designed to do. As most of you know, there also haven’t been any enhancements to the CM15X for years now. Additionally, back when the CM15A was developed, computers were expensive and there was a very good reason for having a dedicated hardware device to run the macros as to not tying up a single computer for those tasks. Today, you can buy a used Netbook computer for not much more than the original price of the CM15A and AHP years ago (and it’s not much bigger either, lol). Considering all of this, I decided to build iHouse to run as a server 24/7 and focus my development efforts on better features over legacy compatibility. This gives the application all the power and flexibility of the entire operating system  and not just the embedded processor/firmware inside the CM15A.

If all of that is not convincing enough, the iHouse macros can’t do ZWave from inside with the CM15A. 

Best Regards To All and Happy Automating!
TJ
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: yancy on January 16, 2010, 12:21:18 AM
TJ,

I'm on board with your approach and since I am taking advantage of the iHouse macro capabilities, I wouldn't want you to scale back that functionality just to be able to download to the CM15a.  An I do intenct to utilize some zWave devices in the future, such as the thermostat control.

For those that still want the old CM15 functionality, there isn't any reason you can't use AHP to build your macros and devices and download to the CM15.  However, IMHO this is only a valid approach if you do not have your computer running 24/7.  If you are running it 24/7, there is no reason you can't run iHouse 24/7 and have all the functionality and more through it.

As an aside, I've been running my main PC that I use 24/7 for years, without any issues.  Even the rare power outage is taken care of with the systems configuration to autopower up when power returns.  With remote control functionality, I can check on it any time and if an app did not load or the system didn't log in properly, I can correct it when away from home.

One man's opinion/experience......
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: eagle on January 16, 2010, 01:54:33 AM
I echo yancy's sentiments.

Please continue full speed ahead with the development and don't let the discussions here about the CM15A distract you. 

I too use a dedicated pc for home automation, so being able to download to the CM15A via iHouse is not critical if/when I transition to iHouse completely.  I think some were just expressing some thoughts that it would be nice for a scaled down backup via CM15A for minimal functions.

Thanks and keep up the good work TJ!

r,
eagle
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: HA Dave on January 17, 2010, 10:42:36 PM
For those that still want the old CM15 functionality, there isn't any reason you can't use AHP to build your macros and devices and download to the CM15.  However, IMHO this is only a valid approach if you do not have your computer running 24/7. 

Whereas I do agree.. that without a running a HA PC... any user is really only about half automated. Without the real processing and intergrating power of a PC... the automation capabilities can be really nice... but limited.

But However limited the CM15A stored macro actions and timers may seem. If I was to lose the HA PC due to a mechanical failure... I would still have automation. (With that said... I should mention I also keep a back-up PC. It is configured and ready to bring online if needed)
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: hawk1 on January 18, 2010, 11:11:28 AM
I hope no one took my earlier post as we absolutely need to download to the cm15.  I like most users use a 24/7 automation pc.  I agree not having a pc for automation is like having a car without tires!   rofl  So far I am very impressed with Ihouse and the amount of support I get from not only the developer TJ but from ITguy and other users!  When ever there is a challenge everybodys on it and it gets resolved quickly!  So far In my eyes Ihouse ROCKS!  Keep trucking TJ and ITguy and I'll help anyway I can. 
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: ttrolinger on January 20, 2010, 01:08:42 AM
In my opinion, the main mechanical failure risk in a computer is the hard drive. That is pretty much the only mechanical part that would be in constant motion in a small computer like a laptop. My solution to that was to replace the mechanical hard drive with a solid state drive. Some of the netbooks come with a solid state drive already installed.
Another cool thing about using a laptop or netbook for a home automation server is it has its own built in battery backup that usually lasts a few hours.
TJ
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: HA Dave on January 20, 2010, 07:28:31 AM
In my opinion, the main mechanical failure risk in a computer is the hard drive.

Generally speaking when I think of a PC failure... I also think hard drive first. But when I worked as a network admin with responsibilities for PC selection, purchases, and software (as well as network) for a small government office. I also had failures due to power packs, processor fans, bad motherboard capacitors, and even most commonly... update errors.. that disabled desktop computers.

I like the idea of a small Home Automation laptop... or maybe even a touchscreen tablet that hangs on a wall.

But as cheap as computers have become... I still think Home Automation can be the best use for those old desktop dust collectors. I am using an old P3 that I rescued from landfill.. loaded XP on it and bumped up its memory with RAM I purchased [used] from a flea market.

Don't get me wrong... it's not that I am all green minded. I am cheap... and on a fixed income. But with a little effort... and knowhow that can be found on-line... just about anyone can have world class Home Automation using PCs that are regularly set out curbside on trash pickup days.
Title: Version 0.9.5.2 now available for download
Post by: ITguy on January 24, 2010, 05:56:38 PM
iHouse version 0.9.5.2 is now available for download at: http://www.ihousehomeautomation.com/

Documentation regarding installation and the macro language is available on the iHouse forum.

New features in this release include:

Added the ability for all iHouse computers (server or client) to serve video (Video Server) from video devices (VA11A, VA12A, etc)

Expanded support for X10 cameras - including recording and playback, presets, tilt, etc.

Additional macro commands including "ShowOn" commands to have a macro show camera video on all screens, server only, or clients only.

And more.......

And did I mention ..... it's FREE!

ITguy


Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: Dan Lawrence on January 24, 2010, 10:42:14 PM
One important thing:  If you are using Active Home Pro, back-up your x10Nets.exe (found in the Program Files/Common Files/X10 folder) as installing iHouse will delete it.   
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: eagle on January 24, 2010, 11:29:19 PM
Hi Dan,

I installed iHouse last week on my XP system.

I just checked my system and it shows the x10nets.exe file is in the Program Files/Common Files/X10/Common folder.

r,
eagle
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: hawk1 on January 24, 2010, 11:30:45 PM
I've installed all of the Ihouse versions and not a one of them deleted x10nets.exe.
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: Knightrider on January 25, 2010, 05:51:13 AM
I, too, have installed ihouse, and my x10nets still is fine.  I fail to see how ihouse can function without it.
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: Tuicemen on January 25, 2010, 07:32:52 AM
I believe Dan means a Uninstall will delete it. ;)
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: yancy on January 25, 2010, 10:33:38 AM
I did the uninstall for the previous version of iHouse prior to installing 9.5.2.  It did not uninstall the X10Netx.exe file.
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: hawk1 on January 25, 2010, 10:49:52 AM
I've also uninstalled every version and it didn't delete anything.  :)
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: Tuicemen on January 25, 2010, 11:00:42 AM
I did uninstall a version Don't remember which one and it did delete some needed.dll files  ::) :'
Update:
Just uninstalled latest version and it does indeed delete my X10.nets file stopping any X10(CM15A) related software from working. :'( :'(
Not good!! ::) :'
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: Tuicemen on January 25, 2010, 11:42:52 AM
Ok
Did a little digging. It doesn't delete the file
How ever it does remove any references to it from the registry. B:(
This makes a simple file replacement useless.
How ever reinstalling AHP did fix the registry issues

Hopefully I'm the only one who has this issue! ::) :'
 >!
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: hawk1 on January 25, 2010, 12:05:44 PM
I have relayed your msg to TJ over at the Ihouse forums.  He should get back to us.   >!
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: eagle on January 25, 2010, 12:10:26 PM
Just uninstalled latest version and it does indeed delete my X10.nets file stopping any X10(CM15A) related software from working. :'( :'(
Not good!! ::) :'

Oiiii!

That's not good.

r,
eagle
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: ttrolinger on January 25, 2010, 12:45:59 PM
All, I will look into this issue today.
TJ
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: hawk1 on January 25, 2010, 12:52:40 PM
Thanks TJ!    >!
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: ttrolinger on January 25, 2010, 01:43:37 PM
All,

I have confirmed there is indeed a problem with iHouse unregistering and removing the shared file "X10Net.dll" when iHouse is uninstalled. This was a oversight on my part and has now been corrected.

To solve the issue, please see more information here:
http://www.ihousehomeautomation.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=112

I am sorry for any inconvenience and appreciate all of you bringing this to my attention.

TJ
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: Tuicemen on January 25, 2010, 01:59:28 PM
I would have reported this at IHouse forums but I can no longer log in and a request for new password isn't being sent.
 ::) :'
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: ttrolinger on January 25, 2010, 02:37:23 PM
Tuicemen, we did not receive a request to reset your password. I have emailed you at the email address you supplied when creating your iHouse forums account. Please reply to that and I will reset your password.
TJ
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: Tuicemen on January 25, 2010, 02:46:13 PM
I was just able to get on!
Seems e-mail from site was getting sent to my severs junk folder that has since been fixed too I hope!
 >!
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: Dan Lawrence on January 25, 2010, 05:29:27 PM
Ok
Did a little digging. It doesn't delete the file
How ever it does remove any references to it from the registry. B:(
This makes a simple file replacement useless.
How ever reinstalling AHP did fix the registry issues

Hopefully I'm the only one who has this issue! ::) :'
 >!

So that's what happened.  BTW, I'm not going to even try iHouse, as the reason I got rid of it was it was too cumbersome to add all my modules to it and  I could not find in import for x10 files. I did, however back up my X10Nets file just in case to the directory on the flash disk I keep X10 files on.
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: hawk1 on January 25, 2010, 06:52:52 PM
Cumbersome? Your joking right?!?  How many modules do you have?  I thought it was pretty quick and simple.  Just my opinion though.
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: Tuicemen on January 25, 2010, 08:02:58 PM
Cumbersome? Your joking right?!? 
actualy it can be very Cumbersome if someone doesn't take the time to learn its in and outs.
But that can be said for any program.
Also the more options that get added will just make it more complicated for newbies to grasp.

If you don't need the options available with it find something that is a little easier to run!
 >!
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: Dan Lawrence on January 25, 2010, 09:34:25 PM
Cumbersome? Your joking right?!?  How many modules do you have?  I thought it was pretty quick and simple.  Just my opinion though.

The answer is 32 lamp and appliance modules 365 days of the year with timers and macros, plus 13 or 14 lamp modules, all with timers at Christmas.  Since that a lot to add or import (which I couldn't find) that's why I posted why I deleted it.   If the iHouse people want X10 users to use their program, they need to make it easy to import their modules, timers and any macros.
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: Knightrider on January 25, 2010, 09:50:22 PM
That TJ is a pretty slick guy.  I'll bet he sees this post and eventually comes up with a way to port AHP data into ihouse.

Just the way those ihouse guys work.
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: hawk1 on January 25, 2010, 10:30:25 PM
WOW!  That is a lot of modules!  I agree with you Dan, I wouldn't want to input all those in either!  I didn't know anybody that had such an elaborate system.  But I will post over in the Ihouse forums about having the ability to import from AHP.  Knightrider is right, TJ and ITguy are awesome about listening AND incorporating almost anything to Ihouse!  Unlike AHP that hasn't been updated in years and which yourself also explains that the last update "is Buggy".  Ihouse takes users input to make the program better, you can see that by visiting their forum.

Its almost like Linux, they update almost weekly with bug fixes and users ideas.  And you don't have to shell out another $50.   AHP probably hasn't put out an update because their working on another version with another transceiver and wanting to get another $50.  I just can't see putting out any more for their software when they didn't listen to their own users on this forum and fix the problems they had.  What makes anybody think that there going to fix the new software when it comes out.

Don't get me wrong, I've had fun with AHP.  But I believe Ihouse has a lot more to offer. (Even though it can't download to the Cm15)!    Again, just my opinion.
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: Dan Lawrence on January 26, 2010, 08:49:17 PM
I'll drop in to the iHouse forums to see what upgrades to ihouse have been made now and then.  If a change is made to allow importing .ahx files is made and X10 hasn't done anything to upgrade AHP or puts a new software version and an interface and give current AHP users a price break, then I just might try it again.

My X10 system is modules, lots of timers and none of the plug-ins as I don't need them.  It's been expanded in the last 20 years, I've been an x10 user since the late 1980's!
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: yancy on February 08, 2010, 03:32:01 PM
Installed latest version (0.9.5.4) this past weekend.  Once again, great upgrade, new features and works great.

Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: Randy B. on February 12, 2010, 07:38:23 AM
Apparently, iHouse has no accommodation (pardon the pun) for locations outside the U.S.A.

Randy from Canada
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: dave w on February 12, 2010, 10:00:05 AM
AHP probably hasn't put out an update because their working on another version with another transceiver and wanting to get another $50.  I just can't see putting out any more for their software when they didn't listen to their own users on this forum and fix the problems they had.  What makes anybody think that there going to fix the new software when it comes out.

Hawk
Anymore details on this new controller?
I agree with your assumptions. When AHP and CM15A first hit the market WE were the beta testers, paying full price for poorly designed hardware and very buggy software. I hope X10 does a beta similar to the beta they did on the RF Icon remote (IR27) because I am convinced paying customers performed the CM15 beta. :P
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: hawk1 on February 12, 2010, 10:52:58 AM
 Dave W.  I don't know for sure if they are putting out a new controller.  I was thinking of reasons why they wouldn't fix the problems in AHP and improve on the cm15.  It was just an idea of why they wouldn't be upgrading AHP..  I'm sorry if I mislead you.  Maybe if I write more about Ihouse here it will kick someone in the butt so they will fix the bugs in AHP and Impove the cm15.

Ihouse:  unlimited flags, unlimited macros, video seen on server and all clients from a server or client (which means you don't have to have more than one va11/va12), voice recognition, able to run programs on server or clients, able to read a .txt file, and its FREE, Good Support,  and the list goes on.....   >!
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: dave w on February 12, 2010, 11:19:03 AM
Dave W.  I don't know for sure if they are putting out a new controller.  I was thinking of reasons why they wouldn't fix the problems in AHP and improve on the cm15.  It was just an idea of why they wouldn't be upgrading AHP.. 

Maybe if I write more about Ihouse here it will kick someone in the butt so they will fix the bugs in AHP and Impove the cm15.

OK, I thought you might have inside track. As far as fixing...I wonder if they have the manpower to fix old, or design new. X10 ain't the company it used to be (1980s-1990s).

Thanks!!
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: hawk1 on February 12, 2010, 11:25:33 AM
I don't know, maybe its time to take a look at a newer technology too, instead of just software.  I would sure hate to see X10 close their doors.  Mainly because I probably couldn't afford to automate my house anymore.   :(
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: eagle on February 12, 2010, 11:52:22 AM
Mainly because I probably couldn't afford to automate my house anymore.   :(

Agree.

Granted I don't have an elaborate setup like most folks here, but it would have cost me at least 5x more to install a system similar to what I've been able to do with x10.

I'm cost conscious but also mindful and accept the limitations of x10.  So with the happy medium I've balanced between cost and capability with an x10 based system, I'm not complaining ... but always open to ways to enhance the system.

r,
eagle
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: HA Dave on February 12, 2010, 05:18:44 PM
I know some people promote the idea that other HA technologies are far better than X10. I think the benefits of the "newer" technologies are highly overrated. All flavors of HA require good planning and setup to work correctly. A little careful engineering works much better than a pile of money thrown at newer devices... IMHO. I can't see how I have sacrificed any capabilities or reliability by choosing X10. I have a larger setup... and it works flawlessly.

There has been a MAJOR change with how we select and use software products. We used to call these fundamental changes a paradigm shift. I am not sure that term is thrown around like it used to be... but the term is relevant for here. ihouse, BVC, BlueWatch, PC Companion... all are "user created" software. These special softwares can pop-up overnight and changed, edited, altered, or modified to appeal to the "customer" just as quickly. These software products cost little-to-nothing to the user... and even though they enhance the CM15A greatly... they cost X10 nothing.

I bought the CM15A (and AHP) so I could use a special software... NOT made by X10. I had tried the CM11A... and had not been impressed. But I wanted the benefits of being able to voice command my home enough to try another X10 interface.

Let us all hope that whatever new computer interface X10 (or whoever) develops or releases for sale. That they realize the value of an open SDK so other software creators can enhance the product. 

Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: dave w on February 12, 2010, 08:22:50 PM
I don't know, maybe its time to take a look at a newer technology too, instead of just software.  I would sure hate to see X10 close their doors.  Mainly because I probably couldn't afford to automate my house anymore.   :(
Same here.

Also, if I were migrate to a new system, I would be afraid of the VHS vs Beta, HD vs Blue Ray scenario. And I bought Beta and HD so what does that tell you?  ;D
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: Tuicemen on March 05, 2010, 11:54:51 AM
Since iHouse and AHP don't at present, play nice together, many are leary of test running this.
I then found a thread on the iHouse forums where a user installed iHouse onto a thumb drive and it worked anywhere.
So I thought about installing iHouse making a copy to another folder then uninstall from the other(original)folder.
This leaves the backup in tack and also allowed AHP On Alert to work  :)%.
iHouse seen the CM15A as connected and all was well.
Until A1 was turned off :'(, once iHouse was shut down a restart wouldn't detect the CM15A.
As long as A1 remained OFF iHouse wouldn't work (always seen the CM15A as not connected)
Luckily TJ found the issue :)% and in the next update the A1 On issue should be fixed.
Until then anyone wishing to do the workaround for On Alert will have to make sure A1 is On before you open iHouse.  ;)
 >!
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: STI2NR on March 27, 2010, 12:05:32 AM
I have a cm19a that I have not put to use yet.  Will this software allow me to use it??

I have a small house and only need 1 housecode to control everything.  I could use the cm19a along with the security system base as the transceiver right??

I am confused, educate me.

;-)
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: ITguy on March 27, 2010, 02:57:03 PM
STI2NR,

While the CM19A will work with iHouse (see this post: http://www.ihousehomeautomation.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=185&p=1051&hilit=CM19A#p1051 ), the security modules are not yet supported. - but that's coming.  You'll probably need one of the plug-in transceivers to take the RF from the CM19A and put the commands on the powerline.

ITguy
Title: Version 9.5.8 released
Post by: ITguy on March 27, 2010, 03:01:18 PM
Version 9.5.8 is available for download at:
http://www.ihousehomeautomation.com/?page_id=248 (http://www.ihousehomeautomation.com/?page_id=248)

This is mostly an "under the covers improvements" release, but adds the ability to use the CM19A.  See this post:
http://www.ihousehomeautomation.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=185&p=1051&hilit=CM19A#p1051 (http://www.ihousehomeautomation.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=185&p=1051&hilit=CM19A#p1051)

ITguy

Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: STI2NR on March 27, 2010, 04:48:12 PM
STI2NR,

While the CM19A will work with iHouse (see this post: http://www.ihousehomeautomation.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=185&p=1051&hilit=CM19A#p1051 ), the security modules are not yet supported. - but that's coming.  You'll probably need one of the plug-in transceivers to take the RF from the CM19A and put the commands on the powerline.

ITguy

That is GREAT NEWS!!!  I am using my security system console as a transceiver since I only need 16 unit codes (small house). I do have a spare transceiver laying around if needs be though.

THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH!!!!!!


;-)
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: STI2NR on March 27, 2010, 07:45:11 PM
HOLY MOLY!! Is there a tutorial somewhere??  I entered this information so far: 

Home security system setup

Channel/unit                                             Operates

B2                     North Bedroom Light

B3                     South Bedroom Light

B4                     Bathroom Light

B5                     Utility Room Light

B6                     Patio Lights/Sirens

B7                     Lava Lamps

B13                     Driveway Camera

B14                     Back Door Camera

B15                     Koi Camera

B16                     Front Door Camera


This is about as far as I got.  I think I need an instruction book.  ;-)
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: ITguy on March 27, 2010, 09:37:57 PM
ST12NR,

Well, there should be enough to get you started here:
http://www.ihousehomeautomation.com/phpBB/viewforum.php?f=8 (http://www.ihousehomeautomation.com/phpBB/viewforum.php?f=8)

and the macro stuff is here:
http://www.ihousehomeautomation.com/phpBB/viewforum.php?f=9 (http://www.ihousehomeautomation.com/phpBB/viewforum.php?f=9)

Please post any questions or problems to the iHouse forums.  And....please let us know how it works with your security console.  I believe you're the first one to try that.

Enjoy!!

ITguy
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: STI2NR on March 28, 2010, 12:34:38 AM
I am not an IT guy.  I cannot figure out how to setup the video server which is the main reason I am using this software.  I want to be able to record on my cameras when my motion sensors send a signal to turn the camera on.  I have a 4 channel input usb dvr video capture device.


Everytime I do a google search on a tutorial on setting up a TCP or ip server I get pages and pages of stuff I do not understand.

I have one computer running vista ultimate edition, this is all I have.   I have tried using my own computers ip address and port 8000 like in the pdf directions and it does not work, I cannot connect to the cameras. 

I guess trial and error will prevail but it sure would be nice to know how to do this stuff. 

I just basically want something that will record for 30 seconds once motion is detected and then saved to my hard drive.  Is that too much to ask???

An email would be nice as well once the recording starts.

;-)


Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: STI2NR on March 28, 2010, 01:58:49 AM
I give up, looks like great software but it has tons of options I do not need.
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: ITguy on March 28, 2010, 10:16:16 AM
STI2NR,

Gee, I hate to see you give up!  iHouse will do all those things you mention.  Please re-post your needs and details of your system over at the iHouse forum so you'll have access to help from the entire iHouse community.  I'm sure we can get you up and running!

As far as "tons of options I don't need", iHouse is designed to just let you ignore those things! 

Hope to see you over at the iHouse forum!

ITguy
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: STI2NR on March 28, 2010, 12:56:17 PM
I will toy around with it later on as it is free which is awesome.  I just get so confused about tcp ip and all that jazz. 

I got the abel cam up and running with no issues in less than a minute and it has an x10 plugin that can be used on the web server that abelcam sets up.

I will however come back to ihouse when I have more time on my hands as it appears to be great software that other companies are charging upwards of 200 dollars for???

I just wanted to be able to see my cams from my android phone and be able to control them and the abel cam does this.  With the autom8 software on the phone as well it is a second option to control the cameras. 

Thanks for the quick responses!!
Title: Version 9.5.9 released
Post by: ITguy on September 14, 2010, 09:58:51 AM
Version 9.5.9 is available for download at:
http://www.ihousehomeautomation.com/?page_id=248 (http://www.ihousehomeautomation.com/?page_id=248)

Enhancements in this release:

Auto archive and purge of log files at user-specified sizes and intervals.

New macro function - RunAtIntervalSeconds.  Automatically starts when iHouse is started, then runs the specified
macro automatically at the interval you specify.

New macro "command line" function - iHouseRunServerMacro.exe  Allows other programs (located on the iHouse server or any of the iHouse clients) to tell iHouse to run any specified macro.  May be called from a command line, .bat file, etc.

Enhanced macro function - email command can now send a message to up to 10 recipients with a single command.

New function - "single click" on/off for devices that don't dim.

ITguy
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: pconroy on September 14, 2010, 06:43:03 PM
I always enjoy keeping tabs on your software.  You've done some amazing things!
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: ITguy on September 14, 2010, 09:43:31 PM
pconroy,

All the kudos should go to the developer, TJ Trolinger!  All I do is help a little with the documentation and the forum and try to "spread the word".

But thank you on TJ's behalf!

ITguy
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: hawk1 on September 14, 2010, 10:06:36 PM
TJ's THE MAN!!!!    >!
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: pconroy on September 15, 2010, 09:36:57 PM
pconroy,

All the kudos should go to the developer, TJ Trolinger!  All I do is help a little with the documentation and the forum and try to "spread the word".

But thank you on TJ's behalf!

ITguy

Tell TJ from one nerd to another -- way cool dude.  :)
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: Puck on September 28, 2010, 10:11:04 AM
As I mentioned in another post yesterday, I stopped using AHP a few months ago. After reading up on iHouse I thought I'd give it a try. So far I am very impressed with the macro capabilities and unless the programmers at X10 do a complete re-write of AHP, I don't see any reason to revert back at this point.

So far I have recreated my complete setup within iHouse as well as adding features that we limited in AHP. I like that there is no limit to the number of status flags and they can be given meaningful names. Plus the fact that macros run sequentially, I find their execution to be more reliable since they don't get interrupted.

I'm still learning some parts of it, but to date I am quite pleased and happy that there is a very good alternative to AHP available.

Thanks tjtrolinger.

 #:)
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: hawk1 on September 28, 2010, 10:31:03 AM
Hey Puck, welcome to iHouse!  I too am using iHouse for it's greater reliability.  Unlimited flags, Unlimited macros, floorplan, weather, alarm,  server/client voice, video, and so many settings and configuration options that AHP doesn't have make this the software of choice for me.
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: ITguy on September 28, 2010, 03:38:34 PM
Hi Puck!

Please feel free to join us at the iHouse forum if you have any questions or problems!
http://www.ihousehomeautomation.com/phpBB/index.php (http://www.ihousehomeautomation.com/phpBB/index.php)

ITguy
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: Puck on September 29, 2010, 07:46:19 PM
Thanks ITguy. When I get back to playing with my system again, I definitely will sign up on the iHouse forum.
Title: Version 0.9.6.5 now available for download
Post by: ITguy on February 13, 2012, 11:33:05 AM
Version 0.9.6.5 is now available for download at:
http://www.ihousehomeautomation.com/phpBB/viewforum.php?f=33 (http://www.ihousehomeautomation.com/phpBB/viewforum.php?f=33)

Enhancements in this release include:

New web interface that duplicates the look of the regular iHouse interface.
Web log-in now encrypted and requires user AND password.
X10 camera access/control through the web interface.
I.P. camera access/control through the web interface (generic i.p. cameras)
Dynamic IP service client (built into iHouse) to interact with http://www.no-ip.com.
New music-player functions and player-control macro commands.
iHouse main window now resizable and may be positioned wherever desired.

And lots more!!

ITguy
Title: Re: FREE - public beta of iHouse
Post by: ITguy on January 02, 2013, 09:38:38 AM
Version 0.9.6.7 available for for download at http://www.ihousehomeautomation.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=1729 (http://www.ihousehomeautomation.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=1729)

Removed, support for the ThinkStick ZWave controller and iHouse no longer uses the ControlThink ZWave SDK.
Added, support for the Aeon ZStick controller and iHouse now uses the OpenZWave SDK.
Added, macro commands to support multiple ZWave devices. See the documentation for more information.
Added, too many other new things to list here!

ITguy