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Title: Defective receiver
Post by: rickwhoo on January 25, 2010, 01:41:37 PM
I just received my X10 wireless audeo/video sender and receiver and it does not work. I feel they should send me one that works with a return shipping label to return the defective part. They said I must first ship them the defective parts first. I only had it 1 day. This is not a good company. They do not stand behind the product.
Title: Re: Defective receiver
Post by: Tuicemen on January 25, 2010, 02:09:09 PM
I just received my X10 wireless audeo/video sender and receiver and it does not work. I feel they should send me one that works with a return shipping label to return the defective part. They said I must first ship them the defective parts first. I only had it 1 day. This is not a good company. They do not stand behind the product.
??? ???
Most companies will not ship out a replacement without first receiving the defective unit.
What guaranty do they have that you will return the other or that it is indeed defective and your just not trying for a freebie.?
Chances are it works just not the way or as well as you expected it to.

Request a RMA and send in the defective unit! ;)
They will refund your money if you don't wish to try another one!
Note: I removed you duplicate post placed else where
 >!
Title: Re: Defective receiver
Post by: rickwhoo on January 25, 2010, 02:17:02 PM
I have never had to return a defective product first to get one that works. You are incorrect with your idea of "Most companies will not ship out a replacement without first receiving the defective unit"   They have your order information to protect themselves from theft.
Title: Re: Defective receiver
Post by: rickwhoo on January 25, 2010, 02:18:19 PM
I was only asking for the receiver that was defective, not any other parts.
Title: Re: Defective receiver
Post by: rickwhoo on January 25, 2010, 02:27:46 PM
I really wanted this product. I know it will work, I know how to use it, I just have a defective receiver. The rest of it will work. I am not trying to rip anyone off. I would have had other people buy this product if it worked correctly. If this company fixes my problem I would have at least 3 more orders for this product.
Title: Re: Defective receiver
Post by: Brian H on January 25, 2010, 02:32:51 PM
Some companies give you a choice. Smarthome will send a replacement when the defective unit is received back or Cross Ship. In that case they charge you for the replacement and refund it when the defective one is received.

Many companies will not send a replacement with out getting the bad one back. Some even test the original to see if it is defective before sending the replacement.
Title: Re: Defective receiver
Post by: rickwhoo on January 25, 2010, 02:39:53 PM
You are wrong that most companies wont ship out a replacement. I buy alot of products online and have never had to send it back first, NEVER. If they paid shipping I might have considered it. Like I said before, I really wanted this item.
Title: Re: Defective receiver
Post by: dave w on January 25, 2010, 09:03:40 PM
You are wrong that most companies wont ship out a replacement.
Consider yourself lucky. My experience has been the opposite. I just had to send a defective timer back to an Ebay vendor on my dime before he would ship replacement. But vendor said he would refund shippping. His explaination was: less than 50% customers return claimed  "defective" products even when he supplied a prepaid shipping label. Dishonest vendors...dishonest customers...whaddya gonna do.

Anyway, X10 said they want defective sender back before sending replacement, it is difficult to fight city hall, so send it back and ask for them to refund your shipping.
Title: Re: Defective receiver
Post by: pcbeachrat on January 26, 2010, 06:56:41 AM
Rick refer to my postings under "returns to x10..or anyone else new and considering purchasing these malfunctioning products...This is not A good company
Title: Re: Defective receiver
Post by: HA Dave on January 26, 2010, 11:22:07 AM
This is not A good company

pcbeachrat as I understood it... from your own previous posts.. your not even an X10 customer. What X10 products do you use?
Title: Re: Defective receiver
Post by: pcbeachrat on January 26, 2010, 12:27:30 PM
I guess your memory is fading you..I was awaiting my orders..I ordered the 99.00 set up with one b&w camera, then instead of buying another camera I then ordered the 49.00 set up to include the other b&w set up...a tm751 a ur73a-2 a vr36a a xx20a times 2 acm19a a ms14a sw26a a va12a vr36a..Is that enough info for you to tray to virus it up for me? I mean seeing how you are the one that was so afraid 0f my postings being seen and all..You know that could care less about the person getting running and up? You was more concerned about someone seeing my posts and not ordering that junk that didn't work nor come complete with what I purchased? Or would you like me to repost them so you can see for yourself?To include the e mail you sent me all worried about what others may see? Seems you were whining about that concern that I voiced my right to freedom of speech under our bill of rights and our constitution? One that figured I should wince and your whining commands?  Oh that was you wasn't it.yea I posted about my itemized list they sent me through the e mail that did not include what the ad says I should get? Yeaa..that one..Then I called them and they guaranteed me the items were on their copy and I would get it all..and then when I received my orders they were still incomplete?  Darn Your memory surely is fading you..I swear you must work for this company or at least one of their independent contractors that buy and resale the items..which if You search through their ads they give people an option to be A dealer and receive their merchandise at a wholesale price for resell...All of them concerns and worries you have, evidently you must have some sort of monetary concerns that You may lose A penny or two...Yup this is copied,pasted and saved too...
Title: Re: Defective receiver
Post by: HA Dave on January 26, 2010, 02:35:57 PM
......... To include the e mail you sent me all worried about what others may see? Seems you were whining about that concern that I voiced my right to freedom of speech under our bill of rights and our constitution?

I never emailed you. I did reply to a PM you sent to me.

I spent some considerable time and personal risk to protect freedom of speech in my country. BTW.. That is NOT an American right by law.. but:  truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights (http://www.ushistory.org/declaration/document/index.htm) I never have understood why people confuse GOD given rights... with calling other people names on an Internet forum. This forum (and likely most others) has a posted etiquette (http://forums.x10.com/index.php?topic=12842.msg71324#msg71324). Berating fellow forum members with name calling (like whiner and whining) is clearly unexceptable.

So hows that camera working out for you?
Title: Re: Defective receiver
Post by: pcbeachrat on January 26, 2010, 03:26:14 PM
Dave, If your referring to me on how the camera is working out, it isn't.I was shy one piece of my order and got disgusted with this bickering, deleted my original postings about being dissastified with this from the beginning when they sent me the itemized confirmation without some of the products I ordered on it..Then when I came to the forum and stated my dissastifaction I felt ganged up on and adrenalin kicked in triggering the "fight or flight" syndrome, and not being one to run I felt I had to defend myself and felt ganged up on since then.When I received my order and all this about paying shipment  to send it back, I merely sold both orders for half of what I paid taking a loss rather than continue this...Then I held off and seen others commenting on not getting part of thier items being shipped and felt impelled to once again take a stance and state my opinion..actually I am tirwed of this mess..I sold my items and never even attempted to hook them up over this mess..I am trying to dig somewhere deep inside myself and trying to look at both sides.I may..I said may actually reconsider once again ordering some more once I see the person I sold my items too SUCCESSFULLY get them going ..but untill then..I am just through with this bickering..and want to hang out in the forum and check things out..I am through with this bickering, and hopefully others will see this too..This isn't good for any of us..When i see the items work..I may once again order some more..but not if this bickering continues..at least directed toward me..Thanks
Title: Re: Defective receiver
Post by: HA Dave on January 26, 2010, 05:54:32 PM
.....  when I came to the forum and stated my dissastifaction I felt ganged up on and adrenalin kicked in triggering the "fight or flight" syndrome, and not being one to run I felt I had to defend myself and felt ganged up on since then

When you originally shared that with me in the PM you sent me.... I reviewed every post in every thread you had posted in.. since you had first posted. (I often review a long thread or a series of threads trying to help find hidden clues to resolve a problem). In your case... NO ONE had made any negative comments. I don't doubt your feelings.... but they are your own.. I could not see where anyone here could have caused them.

When I received my order and all this about paying shipment  to send it back, I merely sold both orders for half of what I paid taking a loss rather than continue this...

Then I was correct. You don't use any X10 products.
Title: Re: Defective receiver
Post by: Knightrider on January 26, 2010, 06:07:39 PM
PC,
 
I'm sorry you had such a bad experience here, but this forum is for users, and we try to help them out.  Sorry to hear about the bickering and the incomplete order.

Your complaints are duly and truly noted and will be well recommended to others.  With that being said, is there any way we can help you now that you have abandoned the prospect of using the product?
Title: Re: Defective receiver
Post by: pcbeachrat on January 26, 2010, 06:39:11 PM
Look, I am trying to possibly reconsider ordering more products after I see the ones I sold work..However, dave, you create half the bickering, and subliniual insults.Like" i see you have no experience ordering items online,..."Your not even an x 10 customer" yet you supposedly reviewed every post I had..Bull..My first post concerned an itemized list they sent me that failed to list what I ordered< on and on..Eagle was the first to respond to my posting on missed items, and was the only long time user to be polite and helpful,MY VERY FIRST POST WAS REGARDING MY ORDER..as well as my second and third..along the way you have threw jabs at me and other people that had problems with their order, in the pm you replied to you were very insultive..You are actually the main reason I didn't even want to mess with x10 products, showing no help at all when My order was finally received with missing items..Your concern was not to help me , but only concerned other people was reading my postings, so I deleted them due to the reply to my pm wanting some help..and also other things..You are setting there with A false halo on your head bro..I have even reconsidered maybe ordering again and trying x10 after selling mine..My last post was basically trying to set the bickering aside..but you hide your little horns well..to some..I have also received pm's from other people with messed up orders, and even some that have not purchased items yet, that came to a decision they will not because of your "false Face...Knightrider, I appreciate your concern, it seems true..but let me tell you..Dave is hurting x10 badly and even mentioned in other  non x10 forums and reviews concerning the certain attitudes of certain members here..I seem to see the name "dave " over and over..i tried to put this bickering aside, but when i see him replying like being such an angel..It simply makes me want to puke..I guess I am not meant to be an x10 fan, no matter how I try..I will not kiss hiney to someone I believe is just as fake as silicone in A womans profile..Thanks..I tried..Dave once harping on someone is chasing alot of people away..he is the main reason why many decide not too try it out..I just cant stand  False Prophets..Well I tried to lay all this aside with my last posting..It just isnt going to work..Your name is all over the members of You tube as well the way you are "snakey" as a serpant...I am just so through..Thanks to the members that really are concerned about a clients misfortunes, and ..well..never mind to the false faced ones(or one)..
Title: Re: Defective receiver
Post by: jtykal on January 26, 2010, 07:48:33 PM
rickwhoo and pcbeachrat -
You are certainly entitled to your opinions about X10 business practices. I, personally, haven't bought anything directly from X10 in several years because I'm not crazy about their corporate advertising and customer service practices. However, I still use X10 products throughout my home, and come to these forums regularly for advice and ideas on how to get the most out of this technology. That's the purpose of these forums. If you have a TECHNICAL issue, these guys will take ownership of your problem and invest their personal time and energy to help you solve it. Not because they are paid to do so, but because they have a genuine passion for what they do and they want to see others succeed.
This is a user community, not a customer service help line.