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Title: PR511 Floodlight Deal
Post by: nybuck on March 13, 2010, 10:28:27 PM
Can you keep a secret?   ;D

How about a PR511 Floodlight for $17.99?
Act now, and they'll throw in a window sticker - A $9.99 value - FREE!

http://www.x10.com/promotions/pr511_ed_intalert_under50.html?PAGE (http://www.x10.com/promotions/pr511_ed_intalert_under50.html?PAGE)

Just remember where you heard it...
Title: Re: PR511 Floodlight Deal
Post by: birdzeye on March 22, 2010, 10:53:10 PM
I wonder if they still have the 2 PR511's for $33.99? Saw it awhile back and lost the link...good deal!
Title: Re: PR511 Floodlight Deal
Post by: nybuck on March 22, 2010, 11:16:04 PM
I agree - but I can't find the page.   :-[

If you find it, that would rate a post up here!  ;D
Title: Re: PR511 Floodlight Deal
Post by: HA Dave on March 23, 2010, 11:12:07 AM
I wonder if they still have the 2 PR511's for $33.99? Saw it awhile back and lost the link...good deal!

Just buy two of nybuck deals.... instead of $34 it's $36.... pretty close.

How about a PR511 Floodlight for $17.99? Act now, and they'll throw in a window sticker - A $9.99 value - FREE!
http://www.x10.com/promotions/pr511_ed_intalert_under50.html?PAGE (http://www.x10.com/promotions/pr511_ed_intalert_under50.html?PAGE)
Title: Re: PR511 Floodlight Deal
Post by: Brandt on March 23, 2010, 11:58:55 AM
I already own one, but If I could do it again..I'd go for the Leviton model

http://www.smarthome.com/4082/Leviton-X10-Motion-Detector-6417/p.aspx

because it is two-way and the x10 model is not:

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This redesigned Leviton X10 Motion Detector has a feature not available on the X10 PIRs. Multiple units set to the same house code and unit code operate as one system. This is achieved by the fact that these units send the X10 "hail acknowledge" code every 6 seconds while motion is sensed, triggering a two-way response. When these units receive the proper signal, they will all turn on (or reset their timed off if they are already on).
Title: Re: PR511 Floodlight Deal
Post by: nybuck on March 23, 2010, 12:04:00 PM
Poprocks - That does look nice.  I go for Cheap, though (always with a capital C)

That's why I'm here!   ;) ;D 8) :)
Title: Re: PR511 Floodlight Deal
Post by: Brandt on March 23, 2010, 12:27:45 PM
with the pr511 the only way your HA software will know if it gets triggered or if its dark where it is, is if you define three objects for it: its own unit code, +1 which it will send when it gets triggered, and +5 which will send depending on dusk and dark....kind of a hack...

It would be easy if it just sent its own house code when it went on, and be able to respond to acks/hails
Title: Re: PR511 Floodlight Deal
Post by: Tuicemen on March 23, 2010, 12:41:50 PM
with the pr511 the only way your HA software will know if it gets triggered or if its dark where it is, is if you define three objects for it: its own unit code, +1 which it will send when it gets triggered, and +5 which will send depending on dusk and dark....kind of a hack...

It would be easy if it just sent its own house code when it went on, and be able to respond to acks/hails
Maybe I'm missing something?  ???
I have two of these both can be polled from AHP for their status and AHP reports when they come on or go off!
Now if someone was to turn off the light from a switch  then back on from the switch it doesn't report itself as being turned on but a poll will report the correct status.
 >!

Title: Re: PR511 Floodlight Deal
Post by: Brandt on March 23, 2010, 01:41:41 PM
with the pr511 the only way your HA software will know if it gets triggered or if its dark where it is, is if you define three objects for it: its own unit code, +1 which it will send when it gets triggered, and +5 which will send depending on dusk and dark....kind of a hack...

It would be easy if it just sent its own house code when it went on, and be able to respond to acks/hails
Maybe I'm missing something?  ???
I have two of these both can be polled from AHP for their status and AHP reports when they come on or go off!
Now if someone was to turn off the light from a switch  then back on from the switch it doesn't report itself as being turned on but a poll will report the correct status.
 >!






I'm not an AHP user so I don't know if it is doing anything on the back-end, I also don't know what settings you have for your pr511
Title: Re: PR511 Floodlight Deal
Post by: Tuicemen on March 23, 2010, 02:40:44 PM
Testing with A thirdparty software it is true it doesn't send a signal indicating it's address is on. One does see the device it triggers go ON and Off , if the software had a querry option you could check the PR511s status.
But as you stated:
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It would be easy if it just sent its own house code when it went on

it does respond to a statusrequest!
Title: Re: PR511 Floodlight Deal
Post by: Brandt on March 23, 2010, 04:23:04 PM
Testing with A thirdparty software it is true it doesn't send a signal indicating it's address is on. One does see the device it triggers go ON and Off , if the software had a querry option you could check the PR511s status.
But as you stated:
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It would be easy if it just sent its own house code when it went on

it does respond to a statusrequest!

I wish I knew how that was possible because the PR511 is not a 2-way device. and yes any software would see +1 through +4 go on an off, but not the actual unit code it is set for. Just saying I recommend the Leviton model for ease of use with HA software.
Title: Re: PR511 Floodlight Deal
Post by: Tuicemen on March 23, 2010, 05:02:28 PM
Maybe because X10 classifies it as a security light. ??? ::) :'
I did some more tests with the SDK and it is true it won't respond to acks/hails it does respond to the statusrequest with a statusOn or StatusOff a query doesn't work on my setup for any X10 device for some unknown reason, but I would think it should respond to it as well.
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Just saying I recommend the Leviton model for ease of use with HA software.
Yes it most likely would make things easier. ;)

Title: Re: PR511 Floodlight Deal
Post by: Brandt on March 23, 2010, 06:50:11 PM
it does respond to the statusrequest with a statusOn or StatusOff a query doesn't work on my setup for any X10 device for some unknown reason, but I would think it should respond to it as well.

Sorry kinda lost ya there...

With heyu and a cm11a, I get nothing with status, status_on, or status_off. however heyu statusstate returns 0 when off only because it is reading its internal tables...not sure if the same thing is happening with yours
Title: Re: PR511 Floodlight Deal
Post by: eagle on March 23, 2010, 10:09:14 PM
I have my 2 PR511s controlling interior lights.  Hence, when one or both of those devices come on and reported on the Activity Monitor, that's when I know the PR511s were triggered.

So as a workaround ... perhaps just set the PR511 to trigger a dummy or macro code to report that it was triggered?

r,
eagle
Title: Re: PR511 Floodlight Deal
Post by: HA Dave on March 23, 2010, 10:20:55 PM
... So as a workaround ... perhaps just set the PR511 to trigger a dummy or macro code to report that it was tirggered?

Great idea! I use one PR511 as a sensor only (http://davesdomainonline.com/os/samples.htm)... no lights. And because it functions only as part of my Occupancy Sensing (http://davesdomainonline.com/os/sensing.htm)... it only uses dummy modules.
Title: Re: PR511 Floodlight Deal
Post by: Tuicemen on March 24, 2010, 07:40:30 AM
pomprocker   I'm using mine with a CM15A so that may be the reason I can talk to the PR511s with a StatusRequest command  ??? ::) :'
I get nothing sending a StatusOn or StatusOff from the CM15A, the PR511s send those.
 >!
Title: Re: PR511 Floodlight Deal
Post by: Brandt on March 24, 2010, 11:57:41 AM
I have my 2 PR511s controlling interior lights.  Hence, when one or both of those devices come on and reported on the Activity Monitor, that's when I know the PR511s were triggered.

So as a workaround ... perhaps just set the PR511 to trigger a dummy or macro code to report that it was triggered?

r,
eagle

Yep thats what I said in reply #6:
http://forums.x10.com/index.php?topic=19957.msg112679#msg112679
Title: Re: PR511 Floodlight Deal
Post by: eagle on March 24, 2010, 02:27:42 PM
Yes sir.  New users or visitors who don't have the PR floods however might not be able to understand the +code features.

Just added my own personal experience to help dumb it down a little.  :)

And believe me, when I was surfing the board a few months ago as a greeny, there were a lot of things being discussed here that was going over my head.  :)

r,
eagle

Title: Re: PR511 Floodlight Deal
Post by: Charles Sullivan on March 24, 2010, 02:42:19 PM
it does respond to the statusrequest with a statusOn or StatusOff a query doesn't work on my setup for any X10 device for some unknown reason, but I would think it should respond to it as well.

Sorry kinda lost ya there...

With heyu and a cm11a, I get nothing with status, status_on, or status_off. however heyu statusstate returns 0 when off only because it is reading its internal tables...not sure if the same thing is happening with yours

Pomprocker:
Look in the Heyu monitor or logfile for the PR511 response (StatusOn or StatusOff) to a Status command.  It takes about 3 seconds for a response on my PR511.

If still nothing, what is the date code sticker (inside the control compartment) on your PR511 ?  Mine is 08J41
Title: Re: PR511 Floodlight Deal
Post by: Brandt on March 24, 2010, 04:36:27 PM
The only thing I see in the logs was from around 1pm yesterday and I think thats when I was sending the heyu commands trying to get its status:


03/23 13:13:59  sndc addr unit       5 : hu O5  (security_light)
03/23 13:13:59  sndc func    StatusReq : hc O
03/23 13:14:02  rcvi func    StatusOff : hc O
03/23 13:14:02  rcvi func    StatusOff : hc O
03/23 13:15:00  sndc addr unit       5 : hu O5  (security_light)
03/23 13:15:00  sndc func     StatusOn : hc O
03/23 13:16:16  sndc func         Hail : hc O
03/23 13:34:58  sndc addr unit       5 : hu O5  (security_light)
03/23 13:34:59  sndc func    StatusOff : hc O

It would not have lit up at 1pm so I know this is probably from me sending commands. I don't see any other status type commands in the logs, so I'll have to check the date code when I get home.


EDIT:

Ok so using the house and unit code returns something on the command line, but using the alias does not. However both create log entries

DiskStation> heyu status o5
03/24 14:02:03  rcvi func    StatusOff : hc O
03/24 14:02:03  rcvi func    StatusOff : hc O
DiskStation> heyu status security_light
DiskStation>

DiskStation> heyu logtail
03/24 14:02:02  sndc addr unit       5 : hu O5  (security_light)
03/24 14:02:02  sndc func    StatusReq : hc O
03/24 14:02:03  rcvi func    StatusOff : hc O
03/24 14:02:03  rcvi func    StatusOff : hc O
03/24 14:02:17  sndc addr unit       5 : hu O5  (security_light)
03/24 14:02:18  sndc func    StatusReq : hc O
03/24 14:02:21  rcvi func    StatusOff : hc O
03/24 14:02:21  rcvi func    StatusOff : hc O





Title: Re: PR511 Floodlight Deal
Post by: Charles Sullivan on March 24, 2010, 09:30:00 PM

pomprocker:
You are getting the correct StatusOn/StatusOff response from the PR511 but the command line is returning before the response is sent.  A more precise measure of the response time shows 2.9 seconds for my unit.  Setting "STATUS_TIMEOUT  3" in config (and restart) should keep the command line open long enough to reliably report the status there also. 
Title: Re: PR511 Floodlight Deal
Post by: Brandt on March 24, 2010, 10:40:54 PM

pomprocker:
You are getting the correct StatusOn/StatusOff response from the PR511 but the command line is returning before the response is sent.  A more precise measure of the response time shows 2.9 seconds for my unit.  Setting "STATUS_TIMEOUT  3" in config (and restart) should keep the command line open long enough to reliably report the status there also. 



thanks no wonder it was random