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🔌General Home Automation => Automating Your House => Topic started by: callagga on June 11, 2010, 08:25:20 PM

Title: what simplest programmable X10 controller? (i.e. not PC based)
Post by: callagga on June 11, 2010, 08:25:20 PM
Hi,

What would be some of the simplest programmable X10 controllers?  That is if I don't want to have a PC running things.  Specifically all I am after is an X10 device that can do macros like:

* If door sensor 1 is open =>  Turn on X10 device X (e.g. lamp X)
* If door sensor 2 is open =>  Turn on X10 device X (e.g. lamp Y)
* If door sensor 3 is open =>  Turn on X10 device X (e.g. lamp Z)

So basically to avoid having to go to a PC based approach for something this basic.

thanks

PS.  I am in Australia with 240V, however still interested in the US models also just to learn what can do this.



Title: Re: what simplest programmable X10 controller? (i.e. not PC based)
Post by: Brandt on June 12, 2010, 12:04:01 AM
You would need something like the v572 wireless transceiver http://www.wgldesigns.com/v572.html which is programmable and would take the signal from the door sensors and map it to a house/unit code and transmit it on the powerline. Also some PC powerline controllers are programmable so you can unhook the PC, but would not be able to receive the 32bit RF code from security devices.
Title: Re: what simplest programmable X10 controller? (i.e. not PC based)
Post by: callagga on June 12, 2010, 12:28:56 AM
ok - oh I've realized I would actually really also like for the warning lights to come on at night time

how would the recommendation change if I needed the programming to be capable of saying: If CurrentTime is between 5pm-7am, THEN if sensor on, THEN light lamp at address X?
Title: Re: what simplest programmable X10 controller? (i.e. not PC based)
Post by: Brandt on June 12, 2010, 12:56:04 PM
Check the manual for the V572. I don't own one, but I know it's programmable, just now sure how programmable it is...
Title: Re: what simplest programmable X10 controller? (i.e. not PC based)
Post by: Brian H on June 12, 2010, 01:42:17 PM
All you can program on the V572 is bypassing some of the addresses it tranceives. By default it does all 256. 16 House Codes X 16 Unit codes
The V572RF32 can tranceive all 256 addresses  and be programmed to translate a security sensors signal to a standard X10 address.
Title: Re: what simplest programmable X10 controller? (i.e. not PC based)
Post by: Brian H on June 12, 2010, 01:45:46 PM
If you want conditional macros. You are going to need an intelligent controller and not something simple.

Some macros can be programmed into the CM15A AHP controller and then have the computer removed.
I have not done much macro work with a CM15A so I don't know how much can be done with downloaded macros and conditionals.

There are other standalone controller with varied features and costs.
Title: Re: what simplest programmable X10 controller? (i.e. not PC based)
Post by: callagga on June 12, 2010, 06:41:40 PM
The only model I've found yet that seems truly programmable is the Adicon Ocelot X10 Programmable Interface, however it's a bit expensive.  http://www.envioustechnology.com.au/products/product-detail.php?ID=53  (http://www.envioustechnology.com.au/products/product-detail.php?ID=53)

Any other models out there that are programmable like this Adicon?

(http://www.envioustechnology.com.au/products/images/med/OCT.jpg)
Title: Re: what simplest programmable X10 controller? (i.e. not PC based)
Post by: Brandt on June 13, 2010, 01:43:39 PM
That is pretty much a small computer. That is why it is so expensive. Also, not so simple. There are others out there like it but the same price range.
Title: Re: what simplest programmable X10 controller? (i.e. not PC based)
Post by: Brian H on June 13, 2010, 01:49:33 PM
The CM15Pro is the International version of the CM15A AHP unit we have here.
The CM11 from X10Europe and the CM12 from Marmitek are also 240 volt units.
I believe Marmitek also have a line of micro modules that can do X10 and A10 {Acts superset of X10 commands}
Title: Re: what simplest programmable X10 controller? (i.e. not PC based)
Post by: callagga on June 13, 2010, 07:15:37 PM
thanks - the CM15Pro looks good - from my reading as well have having macros that you can program and then have it disconnected from the PC, from the ActiveHome site it seems it has an SDK available so you could leave it connected to your computer & control it to the nth degree by writing your on VB applications using the SDK...very cool