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🖥️ActiveHome Pro => ActiveHome Pro General => Topic started by: qwiksilver96 on July 22, 2010, 03:40:19 PM
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I am unable to get conditions to work correctly in AHP 3.271. This is the version that X10 linked me to (just purchased in the past two weeks). It seems that conditions are ignored in macros. No matter the conditions that I use, I get no love.
For example, I have the following Macro:
Name: Front Door Open
Trigger Conditions Front Door - Sensor Triggered and It's Nighttime End Trigger COnditions
Turn Office Lamp ON
I have the same issue with all of my macros. I've tried creating a new, clean file, with just enough sensors, modules and macros to test. Same thing happens.
1 - Does anyone have conditions working in 3.271?
2 - Can someone with 3.271 test a macro to determine if the same happens for you?
Thanks,
Frank
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What module are you using for the lamp?
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I understand the 3.271 part, but maybe we need to know about the hardware interface.
You using the cm15a, or the cm19a?
Next question to the general forum members:
Does the cm19 work with security sensors?
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I've tried both the cm15a and the cm19a. Both give the same result. Conditions are ignored. The macro is set to run on the computer, not in the interface, which it must be since a security sensor is used.
To answer your question about the cm19a; yes, it does work with security sensors. I can see the commands while watching the activity monitor.
Frank
I understand the 3.271 part, but maybe we need to know about the hardware interface.
You using the cm15a, or the cm19a?
Next question to the general forum members:
Does the cm19 work with security sensors?
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To add insult to injury, I can't arm my PS561 with a virtual remote in AHP either. That was working when I was on 3.236. I'm beginning to suspect that the newest International version is chock with bugs.
Is anyone able to get conditions to work in macros with 3.271?
Is anyone able to arm an alarm system with a virtual SH624 in 3.271?
Is anyone here even running this version yet?
Thanks,
Frank
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I got 3.271 with the $9.99 CM19A package.
I have not done much with it yet. Other than let it install.
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To answer your question about the cm19a; yes, it does work with security sensors. I can see the commands while watching the activity monitor.
Wow!
I didn't know that!
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I got 3.271 by using the file I got when I first got AHP, which I keep on an off-PC disk. Guess what? I started having problems with timers not working,or partially working, so out came the backup disk, installed 3.204 (again) and updated to 3.228, so my verdict is BOTH 3.236 and 3.271 are "buggy" releases of AHP.
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Thanks for the added information Dan.
I tried my downloaded loader from a previous AHP purchase and it got me 3.236 not 3.271 ::)
I did get 3.271 with the $9.99 CM19A AHP teaser. :'
Sounds like owners of the CM19A kits may have a timer issue.
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I'm not sure about 3.271, but as of today (Friday, July 23) it failed to trigger timers, 6 modules both lamp and appliance failed to trigger while others triggered properly, plus on 3 occasions x10.nets.exe failed to show proper module status on 4 lamp modules, showing blue status while the lights attached burned brightly as always. Thus the pronouncement of 3.271 and 3.236 as buggy versions stand as far as I am concerned. Twice bitten, twice as shy.
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What's interesting is the X10 AHP Software History STOPS with 3.204. No mention of any version after that.
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I too received AHP 3.271 with the cm19. I installed it. I created a time for my back porch to come on at 8:45 and off at 6am. Works like a charm.?. I bought it because I wanted the cm19 to play around with. But I thought I would try a timer to see if it would work. The timer is basically the only thing I have loaded right now. I normally use Ihouse, but it's nice to have a ahp as a backup.
By the way, for the timer issue; I don't have it downloaded to the cm15. And the cm15 is alway connected to a 24hr pc. Just for the info. >!
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My CM19A just arrived and I may play with it this weekend.
I may also use a CM15A as a test also.
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I am using 3.271 and a cm15a, macros and conditions are working perfectly EXCEPT it is off by 5 hours. It is adding the difference from GMT twice. I couldnt find a fix, so just adjusted my macros to suit. The time all looks good in the hardware interface so the only way to check it is to use a macro to send an email, then look at the timestamp in the email. Timers use the same time as listed there.
You could easily have the same issue - check it out.
Bruce
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Sounds like you are experiencing the same weird problems with 3.271 that I started to have last week. I got my X10 backup disk out. installed 3.204 and then updated to 3.228. To do what I did, go to http://software.x10.com/pub/applications/activehome/ and look for ahp_updt_204.exe .
Save that and run it. Once it is installed, it will show "Update Available" in the right side of the screen. Click on that and it will apply 3.228.
It appears to me X10 now has released 2 buggy versions 3.236 and 3.271 in a row. Apparently the programmers at X10USA are not heavily testing what they are writing.
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Here's a question... what do people who JUST bought "Home" do? We don't have an older loader to re-download and upgrade from.??? ARe we stuck?
Haven't got my hardware yet, just the software so I can't tell if I'm gonna have the bug probs but... TD
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Go to http://software.x10.com/pub/applications/activehome/ and look for ahp_updt_204.exe. Save that and apply it. Once it is installed, use the flashing link on the right bottom side to update to 3.228
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Times of days
I called X10 support about this. Waiting for call back... I can verify the macros works with wall outlet and lamp modules if I set it to a day of week but anything related to Time of day, Dusk to dawn and Day/Night will not work on the same macro.
even in my General printed settings it shows my dusk is 12:52am dawn 1:22am but my Hardware config shows correctly about 6:30am to 8:45 am. This all with the new 3.271 version.
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Thanks for your input and advice, Dan. I've been using AHP 3.228 for quite awhile and it has worked well for me: timers, dusk/dawn, night/day. It seems the only way to go until someone fixes the other versions..........
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X10 is not about to do that. THE LAST TWO recent versions of AHP, 3.236 and 3.371 have been released without "field testing" as both are buggy versions.
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The users who bought the AHP Kits that use the CM19A will be out of luck with 3.228.
I tried it and the CM19A is not completely supported.
3.271 that is included now with the CM19A does find it and control modules through a TM751 or RR501.
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I had similar problems and backloaded the older version. Got the one ws467 working by pressing the on button. Used the timer function (vs. a macro) to turn it on at dusk and off at dusk. Problem is.... it doesn't go on at dusk but does go off at dawn. I'm REALLY getting tired of trying to make this stuff work!!!!! It's a royal pain. Are there any other products out there that work out of the box? This really is a joke.
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Okay, glad to know I'm not F-ing crazy. I JUST GOT ActiveHome Pro, my initial download was v3.271. Macros didn't work worth a steel penny, and onalert was pretty useless too (couldn't send any arm commands).
Downgraded to 3.228 (per the instructions above. THANKS A TON!), and now everything works as expected.
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The users who bought the AHP Kits that use the CM19A will be out of luck with 3.228.
I tried it and the CM19A is not completely supported.
3.271 that is included now with the CM19A does find it and control modules through a TM751 or RR501.
The only problem is now we are getting problems with 3.271 with timers or macros, so I and others who got 3.271 feel it and 3.236 belong together as buggy releases. I got it by way of the original e-mail I got in July 2005, ran the file and 3.271 was delivered. FIVE days after it was installed, 4 timers with multiple addresses failed to execute properly two days in a row, so out came my backup disk, applied 3.204 over it and got 3.228 by way if the flashing "Update Available" in the right side of the AHP display. PRESTO!! No more timer problems. If X10 would "Bench Test" new versions before making them available would save much time trouble shooting them here.
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I almost think they just added some code for the CM19A. To the buggy 3.236 and called it 3.271. Never correcting the problems.
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Yup!!! Like I said, they are not "bench testing" any more, just compiling, and issuing. X10USA just does not care. Nobody at X10 ever makes a presence here any more, we get to deal with the problems for free. B:(
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I'd be willing to bet there are sections in that code that are as old as dirt and completely unreadable, unmaintainable.
No excuse for not testing.
But I'll also bet they're contracting their work out to some low bidders.
And when those guys run across that code -- all they do is just hack, hack, hack until is "seems to run" and then call it done.
BTDT.
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I believe that. Why X10 won't bench test before issuing? 3.228 was released on May 9, 2008 Which was over TWO YEARS ago. That's the last good version which won't support the VA12.
It almost sounds nobody at the top of X10USA cares any more. :(
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It would appear from this post that qwiksilver96, auTONYmous, Kiteloop, and rnorton888 have had problems with NEW INSTALLS of AHP 3.271, not upgrades.
If they are still around to comment -
Is this the case?
Have you found solutions to your problems?
I've heard from Dan Lawrence, and it appears that a new install of AHP 3.271 fixed his issues, but he is working without any plugins. How about everyone else? I'd love to hear what the true verdict is on AHP 3.271. ???