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Title: Perhaps AHP 3.271 is not as buggy as we thought.
Post by: Dan Lawrence on September 12, 2010, 08:00:00 PM
Today, something crashed my AHP, so I uninstalled everything (after backing up all my .ahx files)  including both folders AHP creates.  I got my Active Home Pro backup disk (which has everything you need to have including the Registration code)  and used the original file I got in 2005 to apply 3.271.

So far, all timers have triggered properly, I suspect if you install 3.271 over any other version, you get problems.  I will monitor it to make sure all timers work correctly, if so, I'll keep it, if not, back to 3.228 I go. 
Title: Re: Perhaps AHP 3.271 is not as buggy as we thought.
Post by: J.B. on September 12, 2010, 09:13:03 PM
I've recently installed 3.271 and have had no real issues as of yet.
Timers appear to be working correctly and macros triggering properly using conditions.
Keeping fingers crossed.  >!
Title: Re: Perhaps AHP 3.271 is not as buggy as we thought.
Post by: Noam on September 13, 2010, 02:11:10 PM
So far, all timers have triggered properly ...  I will monitor it to make sure all timers work correctly, if so, I'll keep it.

Dan -
I'm glad to hear that you might be having success with the newer versions. Perhaps the problems you experienced with 3.236 and 3.271 were due to a corrupted file (or even file permission) somewhere, and the uninstall was able to remove that, making way for a proper installation.

Keep us posted.
Title: Re: Perhaps AHP 3.271 is not as buggy as we thought.
Post by: Dan Lawrence on September 13, 2010, 02:26:24 PM
So far, all timers have triggered properly ...  I will monitor it to make sure all timers work correctly, if so, I'll keep it.

Dan -
I'm glad to hear that you might be having success with the newer versions. Perhaps the problems you experienced with 3.236 and 3.271 were due to a corrupted file (or even file permission) somewhere, and the uninstall was able to remove that, making way for a proper installation.

Keep us posted.

I don't know, but I first got AHP in 2005 and every update through 3.204/3.228 were always applied over the previous version, so something in any of the older versions stayed, even though looking at the files it didn't look like anything older was still there.  That problem yesterday was not AHP related, some other programs (even a MS update to Outlook 2003 or Word might have done something. One of my constant MS gripe is they send updates when THEY want to, even if you've told them to do it Saturday morning.

As to 3.271 all the timers this AM fired exactly when they were supposed to.     
Title: Re: Perhaps AHP 3.271 is not as buggy as we thought.
Post by: Dan Lawrence on September 14, 2010, 11:02:15 AM
I'm happy to report that AHP 3.271 is working perfectly.  All timers are working as they should, my one keypress macro runs as it was created.
Title: Re: Perhaps AHP 3.271 is not as buggy as we thought.
Post by: mike on September 14, 2010, 09:14:26 PM
ok, I'm sold.  where do we get 3.271?
Title: Re: Perhaps AHP 3.271 is not as buggy as we thought.
Post by: Dan Lawrence on September 14, 2010, 10:09:21 PM
Do you have the original file you got when you first bought AHP?   That will get you 3.271.  It's not in the x10 Software Repository.  If you didn't keep  it, send me an e-mail at danlawrence2@comcast.net and I'll send you a copy.
Title: Re: Perhaps AHP 3.271 is not as buggy as we thought.
Post by: Tony Olson on September 15, 2010, 10:32:21 AM
Dan I didn't keep the original files (and would like them), but I imagine your email address is going to be awfully busy with folks wanting these files. I'd be happy to request them from your email address if you don't mind #:); however, I thought I'd ask first.

Tony
Title: Re: Perhaps AHP 3.271 is not as buggy as we thought.
Post by: Dan Lawrence on September 15, 2010, 10:55:57 AM
No problem, send me an e-mail and I'll send you a copy.
Title: Re: Perhaps AHP 3.271 is not as buggy as we thought.
Post by: Dan Lawrence on September 16, 2010, 12:52:32 PM
To ALL:

My offer for getting 3.271 "clean" will expire at Midnight September 30, 2010 Baltimore Time (EDT).   One poster has already asked for it.  Anybody else?   
Title: Re: Perhaps AHP 3.271 is not as buggy as we thought.
Post by: Kiteloop on September 16, 2010, 10:25:18 PM
What OS and service pack are most people running?  My first install of AHP was 3.271 on a reasonably fresh Vista build and email time stamps and advanced conditions were all out to lunch. Rolled back to 228 with no changes.

Working through it with support, but not getting very far that way either...

Thanks
Bruce
Title: Re: Perhaps AHP 3.271 is not as buggy as we thought.
Post by: nybuck on September 17, 2010, 08:15:45 AM
What OS and service pack are most people running?  My first install of AHP was 3.271 on a reasonably fresh Vista build and email time stamps and advanced conditions were all out to lunch. Rolled back to 228 with no changes.

Working through it with support, but not getting very far that way either...
I am using Windows XP SP3 on my X10 machine.  It would seem that X10's software development stopped there...

Some have had luck with Vista and Windows 7 - I choose to use my newer machine for everyday use and dedicate an older machine for home automation and video DVR.
Title: Re: Perhaps AHP 3.271 is not as buggy as we thought.
Post by: pconroy on September 17, 2010, 04:52:09 PM
I am using Windows XP SP3 on my X10 machine.  It would seem that X10's software development stopped there...

Can ya' blame them?    ;D
Title: Re: Perhaps AHP 3.271 is not as buggy as we thought.
Post by: nybuck on September 17, 2010, 06:44:36 PM

Can ya' blame them?    ;D

 :)%   I love the Microsoft commercials that say that with the new Windows 7, you can watch TV on your computer, and send pictures on the internet...  Which I have been doing since Windows XP!

But in all honesty, I love my Windows 7.  Vista had more than a few bugs for me.  There are very little advancements from Windows XP; merely nicer graphical user interface for me...
Title: Re: Perhaps AHP 3.271 is not as buggy as we thought.
Post by: Dan Lawrence on September 17, 2010, 07:01:29 PM
A lot of folks who follow what MS puts out on a regular basis have noted that Windows 7 is what Vista should have been without the intrusive "permissions" for even regular things . It even has a XP like view that is good for folks who can't handle complicated software but can use XP (which you can even make it look like Windows 98.)  That's good for folks like my Father-in-Law, who can handle Win98, but could never use Vista, but the 7 XP-like settings help a lot.  When we got him a new laptop for Christmas, it came with 7, but for Dad we made it use the XP like mode, that he understands. 






Title: Re: Perhaps AHP 3.271 is not as buggy as we thought.
Post by: dave w on September 17, 2010, 07:25:38 PM
But in all honesty, I love my Windows 7.  Vista had more than a few bugs for me. 
I hate Vista bloat. Is 7 any faster than Vista?
Title: Re: Perhaps AHP 3.271 is not as buggy as we thought.
Post by: Brian H on September 17, 2010, 07:29:47 PM
Gee you guys make me feel ancient. I still use windows 98SE on a laptop with the original Active Home and CM11A from time to time.  rofl

I skipped Vista and my present computer is XP SP3. Have not gotten any new Windows7 computers yet and the upgrade adviser for Windows7 indicates it would be marginal on my present computer.
Title: Re: Perhaps AHP 3.271 is not as buggy as we thought.
Post by: J.B. on September 17, 2010, 08:19:38 PM
Quote
I hate Vista bloat. Is 7 any faster than Vista?



I'm running Win 7 Ultimate on a Quad and it's much more responsive than Vista was.
Title: Re: Perhaps AHP 3.271 is not as buggy as we thought.
Post by: nybuck on September 17, 2010, 08:24:01 PM
Windows 7 works a lot better than Vista did on my Dual Core as well...  and it's a modest machine.

Xp is fine, though.  I have yet to find something I want that is too new for Windows XP.
Title: Re: Perhaps AHP 3.271 is not as buggy as we thought.
Post by: Dan Lawrence on September 17, 2010, 09:17:23 PM
Back to 3.271 again.

NO Problems with any timers or my single keypress Macro are still ZERO. 3.271 runs exactly like 3.228 did, no fuss, no muss, just dependability.

My prior experience with 3.271 was loaded over 3.228, which was loaded over 3.204, which was reloaded after a bad experience with 3.236 right at Christmas time, when 6 timers from my Christmas.ahx file failed to turn off 6 outside decorations at midnight.  That 3.204/3.228 application was over 3.236.  That was over 6 or 7 prior to 3.204 the first time.  How much residue from 2005 to 2010 was sitting in either the ActiveHome Pro folder of the X10 folder in Common Files? 

AHP runs on a XP Home system, Service Pack 3.       
Title: Re: Perhaps AHP 3.271 is not as buggy as we thought.
Post by: anthonylavado on September 17, 2010, 10:18:33 PM
Using a recent purchased CM19A with TM751.

I've got AHP 3.271 installed on my Win XP SP3 machine for everyday use. P4 2.2ghz, 1gb ram, 160gb HDD.

I tried it (just for kicks) on my main machine, Win 7 x64, Intel Core i7 920 (Quad Core), 6gb ram, 500gb HDD. Ran just fine.

Tried it on my Mac using XTension, runs just fine as well :-)
Title: Re: Perhaps AHP 3.271 is not as buggy as we thought.
Post by: BaBaLou. on September 18, 2010, 10:43:38 AM
As I did call it a few week ago

http://forums.x10.com/index.php?topic=21118.msg119549#msg119549 (http://forums.x10.com/index.php?topic=21118.msg119549#msg119549)

I have had no problems with 3.271. I still don't use the OnAlert or MyHouse and iWatch. Blue Iris takes care of all the cams,Ip and x10 and the OnAlert is still in the works.
Title: Re: Perhaps AHP 3.271 is not as buggy as we thought.
Post by: Dan Lawrence on September 18, 2010, 06:55:38 PM
Using a recent purchased CM19A with TM751.

I've got AHP 3.271 installed on my Win XP SP3 machine for everyday use. P4 2.2ghz, 1gb ram, 160gb HDD.

I tried it (just for kicks) on my main machine, Win 7 x64, Intel Core i7 920 (Quad Core), 6gb ram, 500gb HDD. Ran just fine.

Tried it on my Mac using XTension, runs just fine as well :-)

Just so you know, the TM751 is "Impolite" which means it will step on other X10 transmissions.  I dumped my 2 TM751's for 2 RR501 Transceivers, which are "Polite" which means it waits until the line is clear to send. 
Title: Re: Perhaps AHP 3.271 is not as buggy as we thought.
Post by: Dan Lawrence on September 19, 2010, 11:47:17 AM
Since this thread got derailed, I'm repeating it again.  The clock is running.


To ALL:

My offer for getting 3.271 "clean" will expire at Midnight September 30, 2010 Baltimore Time (EDT).   One poster has already asked for it.  Anybody else?   
Title: Re: Perhaps AHP 3.271 is not as buggy as we thought.
Post by: Noam on September 20, 2010, 10:50:19 AM
X10 just revamped their software download page, and it looks like you are now able to download 3.271 directly from X10:
http://www.x10.com/support/support_soft1.htm

Look in the first section for the AHP download.
Title: Re: Perhaps AHP 3.271 is not as buggy as we thought.
Post by: mike on September 20, 2010, 08:49:45 PM
Since this thread got derailed, I'm repeating it again.  The clock is running.


To ALL:

My offer for getting 3.271 "clean" will expire at Midnight September 30, 2010 Baltimore Time (EDT).   One poster has already asked for it.  Anybody else?   


sure it cc to me tool. tnx
Title: Re: Perhaps AHP 3.271 is not as buggy as we thought.
Post by: Dan Lawrence on September 21, 2010, 07:29:57 AM
Mike,

Do you  need to move to 3.271, your post is fuzzy.
Title: Re: Perhaps AHP 3.271 is not as buggy as we thought.
Post by: mike on September 21, 2010, 04:05:19 PM
Ya, real fuzzy - to me too!  Sorry.

I have netbook in house on couch and its keyboard is too tiny for my big fingers!

sent u an email.
Title: Re: Perhaps AHP 3.271 is not as buggy as we thought.
Post by: Dan Lawrence on September 21, 2010, 05:13:37 PM
Mike,

I can either send you the file that will get you 3.271 or you can download it from http://www.x10.com/support/support_soft1.htm    Let me know which way you want to go.

Dan
Title: Re: Perhaps AHP 3.271 is not as buggy as we thought.
Post by: mike on September 21, 2010, 08:58:19 PM
got it frm link. tnx.  hope all the older 2.236 plugins work with it
Title: Re: Perhaps AHP 3.271 is not as buggy as we thought.
Post by: Dan Lawrence on September 21, 2010, 10:25:07 PM
They should, plug-ins are plug-ins.   I recommend that your current AHP be totally uninstalled ( Use the Control Panel Add-Remove to totally remove your old AHP So before you do that, back your current .ahx files up to either a different drive or flash media so the 3.271 install will be totally new, then add your plug-ins.   
Title: Re: Perhaps AHP 3.271 is not as buggy as we thought.
Post by: Dan Lawrence on September 23, 2010, 04:24:09 PM
As of today my offer to get 3.271 is CLOSED.  Since you can now get it from X10 at http://www.x10.com/support/support_soft1.htm there is no need for me to send the file that also gets it.

Thanks to all who did contact me for the file.
Title: Re: Perhaps AHP 3.271 is not as buggy as we thought.
Post by: mike on September 24, 2010, 08:38:30 AM
Well,,,,,  I did it.....  put 3.271 on.... IT WORKS BETTER THAN 3.236.

Win7, 64bit, va12, all plugins.  had been using my own day/nite flag set routine for macros since none of the built in dusk/dawn/day/nite things worked at all with 3.236 (remember some of us needed to use 3.236 in order to make our va12 videos work at all)

I have set a couple macros up to test dusk & dawn and they worked the first time.  Havent seen that for a couple years!

FYI, I could not delete old AHP as the uninstall program did not work so I had no choice but to install 3.271 over top of 3.236.  Still have my fingers crossed.

As a last aside, I just bought a Compro IP70 IP camera for $ 150.... if this  1280 x 1024 pixels HD camera does what it says it can do, complete with motion detection, emailing, 3g streaming, internet web access, 2 way audio, I will be removing all 8 of my X10 low res cameras and get rid of ihouse add in and go this route.
Title: Re: Perhaps AHP 3.271 is not as buggy as we thought.
Post by: Dan Lawrence on September 24, 2010, 01:20:21 PM
If you use the Control Panel's Add-Remove applet Active Home Pro is the first app on the list.  When you click on it, you have the option of just uninstalling the program or uninstalling everything.   Suggest you back up all .ahx files you have to another drive or removable media before uninstalling.  Once everything is uninstalled you can reinstall 3.271 clean. 
Title: Re: Perhaps AHP 3.271 is not as buggy as we thought.
Post by: mike on September 24, 2010, 03:09:20 PM
I'd have loved to do that Dan;  but when I clicked on it there it said 'do you want to remove this from this LIST?'  I said ok since it believed it was on the uninstall list but not really installed.....  No uninstall.exe or unwise.exe in prog directory to remove it either.  So just bit the bullet and installed over it.  Seems ok and better like I said dawn is at least working........sorta.....

I made a lamp module, set timer to on dawn, off dusk.  1 macro that sends email when this module turns on, one that sends other email when turns off. Sweet.  sent me email... over and over and over......  sending about every few hours telling it is dawn!....  3:01pm, 11:19am, 9:13am, 7:33am.  anyone have any ideas why the repeats?
Title: Re: Perhaps AHP 3.271 is not as buggy as we thought.
Post by: Dan Lawrence on September 24, 2010, 09:26:40 PM
Mike,

What O/S are you running?   I use XP home and my Control Panel's Add-Remove applet let me remove every trace of AHP, then I installed 3.271. I didn't get a 'do you want to remove this from this LIST?' , it said do you want to remove just AHP or AHP and all folders?  I clicked to remove everything.  After the removal was complete, I opened Windows Explorer and made sure there was no Active Home Pro folder or X10 folder under Program Files or Program Files/Common files.

Then I installed 3.271.   As of today (Friday, September 24) all timers and the single keypress macro continue to operate correctly.
Title: Re: Perhaps AHP 3.271 is not as buggy as we thought.
Post by: J.B. on September 24, 2010, 09:34:09 PM
Mike, try this.
The uninstaller seems to have issues with x64.
I just had this same issue.
Got to your C: drive (if that's where Windows is installed) and go to the Windows folder.
Find unwise32_setup and double click it.
Browse to your AHP folder in Program Files (x86) and click on Install.log.
Select custom and select EVERY file.
Let it uninstall and then see if you have better luck with a clean install.


Just a note, backup your .ahx file first in the AHP folder.
It still may not hurt to create your setup from scratch within AHP if you do get it reinstalled cleanly.
Title: Re: Perhaps AHP 3.271 is not as buggy as we thought.
Post by: mike on September 29, 2010, 08:25:23 PM
just loaded 3.271 over 3.236 and it works fine at office machine. day/nite work again