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🖥️ActiveHome Pro => ActiveHome Pro General => Topic started by: uh60james on November 08, 2011, 11:46:56 AM
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This may be a dumb question but what does the green LED signify by module switches in AHP? I did a search and found nothing for green LED and green light brought up a ton of posts with just light. Trying to get a system set up and just wondering what it is.
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ON
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So in addition to the switch saying on we get a green LED. Is this a dumb indicator? By that I mean does it just light up green when you "flip" the switch or does it light up green based on a signal sent back by the module?
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Green light is on by the flip of the switch. Most x10 modules are not two-way, hence not reporting their status back to AHP.
hope this helps.
Cheers,
Nate
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Thanks, that's exactly what I wanted to know.
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Actually that "green light" on a module means there are timers attached to it. If no timers are attached, it's white. AHP has always done that.
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Actually that "green light" on a module means there are timers attached to it. If no timers are attached, it's white. AHP has always done that.
Huh?
Are you talking about the "find other computers" screen, or the "room view" in AHP?
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Actually that "green light" on a module means there are timers attached to it. If no timers are attached, it's white. AHP has always done that.
That's on the bottom right of the module.
I believe the OP is talking about the green light to the left of the switch.
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Actually that "green light" on a module means there are timers attached to it. If no timers are attached, it's white. AHP has always done that.
That's on the bottom right of the module.
I believe the OP is talking about the green light to the left of the switch.
The one on the bottom right corner of the box is not a "green LED." It is the timer indicator (it looks like a little clock, even). It is green if there are timers associated with the module, or white if there are not.
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I was talking about the one directly to the left of the switch. I see the timer icon in the lower right. ;)
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I was talking about the one directly to the left of the switch. I see the timer icon in the lower right. ;)
Yes, that is a separate indicator in addition to the position of the switch (and the light in the switch itself for appliance modules) of the module status.
Interestingly enough, I just did a test on my laptop (which has AHP, but is not connected to a controller right now).
I can click on the switches to turn them on and off in AHP, but the indicator light in AHP does not turn on.
Perhaps one is an indicator of what you WANT it to do, and the other is an indicator of what's really going on?
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That's what I was kind of thinking Noam. I got an IBM Home Director Starter Kit with a cm11a, lamp module, and appliance module yesterday. I was getting the green light with the lamp module which was on and would not respond to any commands. I had no green light from the appliance module which was hooked up to a power strip, regardless of the switch position on/off. I also could not get the appliance module to respond to commands. Hopefully I will be getting my shipment from x10 soon and can figure all that mess out.
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That's what I was kind of thinking Noam. I got an IBM Home Director Starter Kit with a cm11a, lamp module, and appliance module yesterday. I was getting the green light with the lamp module which was on and would not respond to any commands. I had no green light from the appliance module which was hooked up to a power strip, regardless of the switch position on/off. I also could not get the appliance module to respond to commands. Hopefully I will be getting my shipment from x10 soon and can figure all that mess out.
AHP does not get feedback from the modules, so the indicators in the software won't tell you the ACTUAL state of the module.
If you can't control the modules at all (on or off), then your software or hardware isn't set up correctly.
Are you using ActiveHome (the older one) or ActiveHomePro (AHP) with your CM11A? What version of the software are you using?
Is it able to communicate with the interface properly?
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ActiveHome Pro, it was part of what I thought was a CM15A bundle. It is communicating, to make sure I sent a timer to it and the available memory reflects a timer being dowloaded. It is hooked up with a USB to Serial adapter cable but I have the COM port set correctly so that shouldn't be an issue.
I didn't have time last night to try different outlets but I doubt the outlets are on a different phase as they are all in one room that was added to the house some time after it was built.
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I get home and find my x10 package waiting for me. Of course no CM15a like I ordered. Leaving my setup the same I plug my new mini controller in and it controls my modules that the AHP/CM11a is not. Ideas?
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I get home and find my x10 package waiting for me. Of course no CM15a like I ordered. Leaving my setup the same I plug my new mini controller in and it controls my modules that the AHP/CM11a is not. Ideas?
You are plugging the Mini controller into the same outlet as the CM11A, right?
If they can both be plugged into adjacent outlets on the same circuit (or two halves of a Duplex outlet - you might even be able to plug the Mini controller into the outlet on the front of the CM11A), you can test to see if AHP is seeing those commands sent from the Mini Timer, via the CM11A.
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CM11A has a passthrough AC Outlet on its front cover.
You should be able to plug the mini controller into it and test.
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Yes, I had originally pulled it out and replaced it with the controller. I replaced the CM11A and plugged the Mini controller directly into it and it (controller) still works. If the CM11A is working properly should I be able to see the commands being sent from the Mini controller in the activity monitor? If so, I am not. Although it was NIB I suppose it could be a bad CM11A.
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Switched to another outlet and it acted like it would work. Light turned on and off a few times on its own then remained off. Turned it on, set brightness to 80, set brightness to 40 and nothing. Just kept sending the command over and over.
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I get home and find my x10 package waiting for me. Of course no CM15a like I ordered. Leaving my setup the same I plug my new mini controller in and it controls my modules that the AHP/CM11a is not. Ideas?
It's not the CM11a in the package, it's the CM19A , which comes with the TM751 as it does work like the CM15A.
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I ordered a CM11A off of ebay when I found out x10 was not shipping me a cm15a like I ordered. I have a CM11A, CM19A and TM751 now. I am trying to get the CM11A to work so I can have timers.
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The CM11A was for Active Home, the precursor to Active Home Professional (AHP) and the CM11A was a serial device while AHP was built for the USB CM15A. My guess is AHP won't even recognize the CM11A.
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Support was added in version 3.314 for the CM11A. Under the Tools tab there is an option for CM11A configuration. It's supported, I just can't get it to work.
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Do you get any error messages from AHP when configured for the CM11A?
Where you able to see some incoming messages in the activity monitor, when you send commands from the Mini Controller?
Are you are using a USB to Serial adapter? Some may not support the needed RI {Ring Indicate} RS232 signal used by the CM11A or don't provide enough RS232 Voltage Swing - + on their signal lines.
AHP doesn't have a communications test {as far as I could tell} so I guess that is out. AH did have a communications test.
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-No error messages.
-I did not see any incoming messages in the activity monitor. All modules work with the Mini Controller in multiple outlets. I tried the CM11A in the same outlets and the activity monitor just shows it sending a signal over and over. One thing I did notice is that the activity monitor does show the wrong address some of the time but not all of the time. I have all the modules set to house code D. Sometimes when trying to turn on D1 I notice the activity monitor showing A1 instead of D1. A computer restart seems to fix that at least temporarily. I would try to uninstall and reinstall but I'm not seeing an uninstaller and just deleting the AHP folder seems to leave a lot of info behind on the computer that is still in AHP when I install it again.
-I am using an adapter. It's this one http://www.byterunner.com/byterunner/product_name=Y-105/user-id=/password=/exchange=/exact_match=exact (http://www.byterunner.com/byterunner/product_name=Y-105/user-id=/password=/exchange=/exact_match=exact) which was reccomended by dhouston. I did however install the driver from a website not the included miniCD since I have a slot load drive. I suppose I could have the wrong driver, I will have to investigate that when I get home.
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Thanks for the information.
If dhouston has tried that interface, then it is probably fine.
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-No error messages.
-I did not see any incoming messages in the activity monitor. All modules work with the Mini Controller in multiple outlets. I tried the CM11A in the same outlets and the activity monitor just shows it sending a signal over and over. One thing I did notice is that the activity monitor does show the wrong address some of the time but not all of the time. I have all the modules set to house code D. Sometimes when trying to turn on D1 I notice the activity monitor showing A1 instead of D1. A computer restart seems to fix that at least temporarily. I would try to uninstall and reinstall but I'm not seeing an uninstaller and just deleting the AHP folder seems to leave a lot of info behind on the computer that is still in AHP when I install it again.
-I am using an adapter. It's this one http://www.byterunner.com/byterunner/product_name=Y-105/user-id=/password=/exchange=/exact_match=exact (http://www.byterunner.com/byterunner/product_name=Y-105/user-id=/password=/exchange=/exact_match=exact) which was reccomended by dhouston. I did however install the driver from a website not the included miniCD since I have a slot load drive. I suppose I could have the wrong driver, I will have to investigate that when I get home.
I know this is a dumb question, but are you sure you set AHP to use the same COM port that the USB-to-Serial adapter is providing?
Are the com port settings correct in Windows (Baud Rate: 4,800bps; Parity: None; Data Bits: 8; Stop Bits: 1)?
Does AHP give you a warning at startup that it can't find an interface plugged in?
Have you already tried unplugging the CM11A, removing the batteries, waiting a minute, putting the batteries back in, and plugging it back in?
Does the Windows Device Manager see the CM11A at all? (I don't know if it is supposed to or not - I haven't played with a CM11A with AHP yet)
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I just thought of another thing:
Can the CM11A send Extended Codes? Has anyone tried that before?
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The COM port is set correctly to COM6 which is what the adapter is set to, COM6 is the only COM port showing up in AHP. I will have to check the COM port settings when I get home.
No warning given by AHP.
Based on further research I apparently have a CM10 not a CM11A. This is the IBM version with no slot for batteries. I don't if that is problematic or not.
If my memory serves me correctly the CM10 shows up as unknown device in Device Manager but there is no error associated with it.
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I just thought of another thing:
Can the CM11A send Extended Codes? Has anyone tried that before?
The CM11A Protocol defines extended codes. Both the CM11A and XTB-232 support them.
Jeff
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Another note, what I know believe to be a CM10A came in an IBM Home Director Starter Kit. It included the CM10A, Appliance Module, Lamp Module, Software and the RJ11 to serial cord. Although the front of the modules are marked with IBM Home Director the back side has Radio Shack markings. Not sure if any of this is relevant at all.
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I just thought of another thing:
Can the CM11A send Extended Codes? Has anyone tried that before?
The CM11A Protocol defines extended codes. Both the CM11A and XTB-232 support them.
Jeff
Thanks for clarifying.
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The COM port is set correctly to COM6 which is what the adapter is set to, COM6 is the only COM port showing up in AHP. I will have to check the COM port settings when I get home.
No warning given by AHP.
Based on further research I apparently have a CM10 not a CM11A. This is the IBM version with no slot for batteries. I don't if that is problematic or not.
If my memory serves me correctly the CM10 shows up as unknown device in Device Manager but there is no error associated with it.
Perhaps AHP can't support the CM10.
Can anyone out there with a CM10 test it?
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Read reply #4 of this thread.
http://forums.x10.com/index.php?topic=14652.0
The CM10A does not have any clock in it and a very small memory IC that does not remember during a power loss.
Thread also indicated the older Active Home didn't work with a CM10A. I would imagine AHP would be the same.
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Read reply #4 of this thread.
http://forums.x10.com/index.php?topic=14652.0
The CM10A does not have any clock in it and a very small memory IC that does not remember during a power loss.
Thread also indicated the older Active Home didn't work with a CM10A. I would imagine AHP would be the same.
I never knew that. Thanks for pointing it out.
So, I guess the CM10A is useless in this capacity. That's too bad.
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I knew there where differences but until I tried a search and found the thread. I didn't know how much different it was.
The X10Shop was the vendor that bought the late date code lot of CM11As and still has over 900 left.
http://www.thex10shop.com/product/x10-genuine-cm11a-activehome-serial-computer-interface
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Wow, that sucks. Now I have two relatively useless interfaces. Time to spend more $ I guess.
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Would a PowerLinc 2414u work with AHP?
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No a 2414U will not work with AHP.
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I successfully got the CM10A to work with the original ActiveHome running in Virtual XP Mode in Windows 7. Brian said the CM10A does not have a clock in it yet I set a timer for one light and ActiveHome sent it to the CM10A successfully. I don't know enough about X10 to know if software would still send a timer to a interface even if it can't support it. Unfortunately after I sent the timer the VirtualPC started acting up and I was too tired to continue messing with it. When I get home from work will be the test, if the light in my front room is on I will still have a bit of hope for this.
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Did you run the timer with the Pc still connected, and ActiveHome running?
If so, that might be why it worked. It doesn't need an onboard clock or memory, if the PC is going to do all the work.
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The timer didn't run, I set it to come on at 5pm today. I was going to set another timer to come on to test it and unplug the CM10A but I started having problems with the VirtualPC. The differnce is that now I can actually control modules directly from the software, AHP wasn't letting me. I am thinking the light won't be on tonight when I get home but I am hoping it will be. I read an article yesterday that was talking about the interface I have which is actually labled HDSK11A (I think,) the writer was saying that the internals were basically the same as the CM11A. I can't find the link now but if this is true and they are both basically the same internally minus the battery slot I don't see why this couldn't keep time as long as its plugged in.
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I found HDSK11A IBM Home Director Kits listed on eBay.
Unfortunately they didn't give details of what the kit had in it.
There is some data on the HD16 {older like a CM10A} and HD11A {CM11A} on this web site.
http://www.heyu.org/
So look at your interface and see if it is the HD16A or HD11A.
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Thanks, will check it out.