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X10 AirPad Android Tablet => AirPad General Discussions => Problems and Troubleshooting => Topic started by: hong on January 25, 2012, 05:29:41 PM

Title: Is AirpadX compatible with Android Market?
Post by: hong on January 25, 2012, 05:29:41 PM
The following error message always occurs whenever I try to download an app from Android Market:
"There are no Android phones associated with this account".

After searching online, I have realized that a device has to be compliant with Google's certain standard to support Android Market.  AirpadX is not on the list of supported devices (http://support.google.com/androidmarket/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=1727131).

AirpadX appears to be rebranded MID device.  MID is not on the list either.

The Owner's Manual strangely only mentions Amazon Market. 

All of the above make me wonder if AirpadX uses the open source Android OS, hence not compatible with Android Market.

Could anyone shed some light on this?
Title: Re: Is AirpadX compatible with Android Market?
Post by: Dan Lawrence on January 25, 2012, 07:44:57 PM
AIRPAD X IS A RE-BRAND OF THE ZENITHINK ZT280-C91.  YOU CAN RE-FLASH THE FIRMWARE AT THE LATEST 2.3.4 VERSION OR EXPERIMENT WITH THE LATEST ICS BETA AND THEN YOU WILL HAVE THE GOOGLE APPS INCLUDING MARKET AVAILABLE TO YOU.

FOUR TIMES you have been told it's considered shouting and is bad manners on any forum. 
Title: Re: Is AirpadX compatible with Android Market?
Post by: hong on January 25, 2012, 09:42:56 PM
Thanks a lot for the tip.

I have just found its Android version is 2.3.4.  Did you mean this is not the latest version of 2.3.4?  As my understanding of what X10 says, AirpadX will be able to be upgraded to 4.0 sometime next month. Is that right?

Do you think we can upgrade it to 4.0 now by downloading the OS from http://www.zenithink.com/Eproducts_C91.php?download (http://www.zenithink.com/Eproducts_C91.php?download)?
Title: Re: Is AirpadX compatible with Android Market?
Post by: moore_tr on January 27, 2012, 03:17:43 PM
Hello, Hong - yes, that will work, but you should understand that X10 will not support that.  I have loaded various ROMs from the Zenithink site, and they work, but they don't conform to opensource rules, so you get exactly what they provide.  If you wish to continue with X10 support, you should stick to the ROMs they provide.  I tend to venture a bit more boldly, and have loaded ICS 4.0.3 - ICS has a very nice interface, and lots of widgets, and mostly works with Google market, with the exception that anything you buy will have to be downloaded to a PC, then moved over to the tablet.  (there's a bug in there I haven't found the source of yet).  It still works flawlessly with the Amazon appstore, though, so I can deal with that minor inconvenience.  By the way, I DON'T work for Zenithink, Amazon or Google, so I try to remain unbiased.
Title: Re: Is AirpadX compatible with Android Market?
Post by: hong on January 27, 2012, 06:01:33 PM
Thanks a lot, moore_tr.

I tried to upgrade my AirpadX with Zenithink's Android 4.0 download for 10" C91 (512MB+8GB) android4.0 20120109_2n, but failed.  I followed their instructions as follows:
■First extract the firmware which you get or download, then copy the whole "zt-update" directroy into the root directory of TF card.
■Put the TF card into TF card slot, then press the "Camera" button at the same time to press the power-on button, then operate as per the reminders shown on the screen, the machine will be installed the firmware and then reboot.

I keep getting the following message:
Press CAMERA KEY when insert, other exit
No card insert.

I have made sure the SD card is in.  Do you have any tip for this?  Iam wondering if that is compatible with AirpadX.  Now, I am waiting for X10 to release the update for Android 4.0. 
Title: Re: Is AirpadX compatible with Android Market?
Post by: gjf on January 27, 2012, 06:37:25 PM
Hong

I would make sure you can see the sdcard when the original OS is booted using the file browser.
Also make sure the zt-update folder is at the root of the sdcard.
Also be aware that the 4.0 is a beta version, not complete.
You might want to put in the 2.3.4 if you are just trying to get the androidmarket
Also make sure your version is correct  2n vs 3n  version is on the side of AirpadX barcode

GJF
Title: Re: Is AirpadX compatible with Android Market?
Post by: hong on January 27, 2012, 07:02:45 PM
Gif,

Yes, I used the file browser to make sure the SD card is there and the zt-update folder is at the root of the sdcard.  The model number is ZT280H12NC91M512F8.  The current version is 2.3.4.

X10 is supposed to put out the update in two weeks.  I hope to have better luck with that.
Title: Re: Is AirpadX compatible with Android Market?
Post by: moore_tr on January 29, 2012, 01:48:05 AM
Hi Hong, my device is an Airpad X, and I'm running the latest Zenithink release, dated 20120117, and have boosted the speed to 900 MHz - the ROMs being delivered so far, will only let you go as fast as 800MHz,, as that's the way the kernel is compiled.The instructions as posted by Zenithink are correct, but somewhat lacking in detail - english is not their primary language, and they are doing the best they know how.  There are a number of VERY helpful and informative postings on slatedroid.com, and you might want to check them out.  in particular, look at the forum on Cortex A9 -> ZT280 C91
Title: Re: Is AirpadX compatible with Android Market?
Post by: cjhallx on January 29, 2012, 04:12:35 PM
which app did you use to change the speed? there are many to choose from. thanks.
Title: Re: Is AirpadX compatible with Android Market?
Post by: cjhallx on January 29, 2012, 04:15:17 PM
Hong, just want to make sure that you are disconnecting the USB cable before you try flashing
Title: Re: Is AirpadX compatible with Android Market?
Post by: hong on January 29, 2012, 05:43:28 PM
cjhallx, yes, I disconnected the USB. I tried with and without power cable plugged in.

moore_tr, I downloaded the package from Zenithink again today.  It is sttill dated 2012-01-10.
Title: Re: Is AirpadX compatible with Android Market?
Post by: moore_tr on January 29, 2012, 07:27:01 PM
I used the "No Frills CPU control" app - with a stock kernel, you will only have 200MHz and 800MHz available.  I have a custom kernel, which will run at 900MHz.  If you are adventurous enough, go check out the forums on Slatedroid.com and you'll find out how this is done.  Again, I give warning, that X10 won't support this.  I don't think it would be appropriate for me to put the link for modified kernels and ROMs here, as X10 does their own, but you'll find really interesting stuff on slatedroid.  (hint)   8)
Title: Re: Is AirpadX compatible with Android Market?
Post by: moore_tr on January 29, 2012, 07:35:25 PM
BTW Hong,

I have a pile of microSD cards here, and I haven't had any issues with them working on the Airpad X - but I tend to make sure they have a speed class of 6 or higher.  The other thing you may want to consider - the larger capacity microSD cards come formated as NTFS - that is supported in newer kernels, but when I first got my Airpad, it wouldn't recognize any NTFS filesystems.  So, if that's your issue with this particular SD card, you might reformat it as a FAT32, and see if it behaves any differently?
Title: Re: Is AirpadX compatible with Android Market?
Post by: hong on January 29, 2012, 08:55:52 PM
Hi moore_tr,

The original format of the 1GB Kingston Micro-SD card had FAT format.  Per your instructions, the following is what I have just tried:
1. Formatted the SD in FAT32.  The error remains.
2. Formated the SD in NTFS.  The error remains.

I made sure AirpadX recognized the SD using the file browser, then shut down the device, and started the procedure of updating the flash.  No luck so far.
Title: Re: Is AirpadX compatible with Android Market?
Post by: moore_tr on January 30, 2012, 11:50:02 AM
Strange - what speed rating is this card?  Have you tried a different one?
Title: Re: Is AirpadX compatible with Android Market?
Post by: hong on January 30, 2012, 01:38:40 PM
I do not know the speed rating of this Kingston SDC/1GBFE 1 GB microSD Memory Card
 http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=SDC-1GBFE&cat=FLM (http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=SDC-1GBFE&cat=FLM)

I have not tried any other cards. 

Yes, it is strange that the device can read the card without any problem after it is booted.
Title: Re: Is AirpadX compatible with Android Market?
Post by: cjhallx on January 30, 2012, 07:00:34 PM
i do not see anywhere on Zenithink's website where they mention anything smaller than an 8GB SD card, far-fetched but may be an issue using that small a device especially if it is using it to unzip the flash files.
Title: Re: Is AirpadX compatible with Android Market?
Post by: hong on January 30, 2012, 07:22:23 PM
The size of the folder zt-update is 301MB.  The SD card still has a lot of available space.

Again, the card works perfectly once the tablet is booted.

I will definitely try to find a different and larger SD card to try.   I will report back as soon as I do it.
Title: Re: Is AirpadX compatible with Android Market?
Post by: moore_tr on January 30, 2012, 10:24:10 PM
Hong, is there any chance you can get another microSD card?  They're pretty inexpensive, and if you do, make sure it has a speed class rating of 6 or higher.  I would start with a card at LEAST 4GB, 8, 16 or 32GB is much better, though.  My PNY 32GB card cost about $28.00 USD, and has a speed class of 10.  The best possible.
Title: Re: Is AirpadX compatible with Android Market?
Post by: hong on January 30, 2012, 11:17:29 PM
Hi moore_tr,

Actually I ordered the highest rated SD card from newegg.com immediately after I posted the previous message http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820208453 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820208453).
Its speed class is 6.
I will receive it on Wednesday, and report the outcome back here as soon as I try it.
Title: Re: Is AirpadX compatible with Android Market?
Post by: hong on February 03, 2012, 05:31:53 PM
Hallelujah!
I got the 8GB Transcend SD card this afternoon, and it worked.  Now, ICS is on the tablet, and Android Market is working.
It is strange that the same tablet can recognize an SD card with its fiel browser, but not with its booting process.
Title: Re: Is AirpadX compatible with Android Market?
Post by: jackronson on February 04, 2012, 11:13:11 PM
Did the update replace cyanogenmod? I'm thinking about doing the update in order to get the Android Market, but I don't want to loose the greatness of cyanogenmod.
Title: Re: Is AirpadX compatible with Android Market?
Post by: hong on February 04, 2012, 11:25:46 PM
I am sorry for my ignorance.  I know little about Cyanogenmod, and do not know how to tell whether it is still there.
Title: Re: Is AirpadX compatible with Android Market?
Post by: jackronson on February 05, 2012, 12:11:52 PM
I understand. But can you tell me detailed steps on how you did the install? I've racked google for hours and all of the people on the forums know what they're doing so they only share vauge instructions, if any. I tried the steps on the zenithink website, and the update screen does nothing. How did you get ice cream sandwhich to install? My sdcard is qualified to do so, and my computer knowledge has run out of new ideas. Please help!

~Jack
Title: Re: Is AirpadX compatible with Android Market?
Post by: hong on February 05, 2012, 12:55:28 PM
I doubt I can provide any useful information because I simply followed the instructions on Zenithink's web site as following:
1. Download the files for 0" C91 (512MB+8GB) android4.0 20120109_2n
2. Extract the firmware which you get or download, then copy the whole "zt-update" directroy into the root directory of TF card.
3. Put the TF card into TF card slot, then press the "Camera" button at the same time to press the power-on button, then operate as per the reminders shown on the screen, the machine will be installed the firmware and then reboot.

I did not do anything beyong the above instructions of theirs.  After installation, I did some configurations such as date time, etc.
Title: Re: Is AirpadX compatible with Android Market?
Post by: jackronson on February 05, 2012, 03:59:46 PM
I think the problem lies in where I'm putting the update. I put the zt-update in the root of the sdcard and the actual files are in that. Is that right? What version did you get? xxx2nxxx or xxx3nxxx?
Title: Re: Is AirpadX compatible with Android Market?
Post by: hong on February 05, 2012, 05:04:06 PM
I got xxx2Nxxx as indicated by my previous post (10" C91 (512MB+8GB) android4.0 20120109_2n).
I put folder zt-update in the root, and the actual files (e.g. command, zt280.kernel) are in thatfolder.
Title: Re: Is AirpadX compatible with Android Market?
Post by: jackronson on February 05, 2012, 06:08:52 PM
I dont understand what im doing wrong! I tried it so many times exactly the way you did and it simply does nothing. It dont touch the screen, recovery will do it" or something like that, then it says "skip recovery... " and boots normally. Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Is AirpadX compatible with Android Market?
Post by: hong on February 05, 2012, 07:17:52 PM
I am sorry to hear this, Jack.

Unfortunately, I am not an expert in Android.  The AirpadX is the only Android device that I have. I have had it only for two weeks or so.  I hope moore_tr, who is apparently an expert, can lend a hand to you. X10 is supposed to release their update package very soon (may be this week).  You may be able to get their support once use their updating package.
Title: Re: Is AirpadX compatible with Android Market?
Post by: cjhallx on February 06, 2012, 08:32:12 PM
Try formatting the SD card on a PC. Do not do a quick format. I had to do this to get a SD card that was visible to the tablet to be visible during flashing.
Title: Re: Is AirpadX compatible with Android Market?
Post by: moore_tr on February 08, 2012, 09:31:55 PM
Hey, Jack,  I just saw your post - sorry, I've been busy the last few days, and haven't checked for new messages.  If you have the zt-update in the root of your SD card, and the files ZT280.kernel, ZT280.recovery and ZT280.system are all in that directory, then it should work - are you pressing the camera button, then while holding the camera button pressing and holding the power button until the screen comes on?  some of these tablets are sensitive in that way.  Once the screen comes on, it should either just go into update mode or ask you to press the camera button again, to continue with the update.  It *IS* important to not touch the screen during the loading process - it will do strange and unknown things to you if you do.   B:(  I just loaded up a new version of ICS, BTW - it's dated 20120206 - less problems in that load - I have it hacked to 900MHz, and will share with you the instructions for doing this, if you get it to load.  Tom
Title: Re: Is AirpadX compatible with Android Market?
Post by: jackronson on February 09, 2012, 05:24:06 PM
I've been doing all of that, it just seems to want to completely skip the step...
I think at this point I'll wait for x10's release of ICS; I downloaded the 2.3.4 (or something like that) from the x10 website and it has files in it that isn't in the ICS one from zenithink... files like "command" which sound important. I also want the support that comes with it, so I'll wait. Any news on when that may come out? I assume its within the month, but will it be posted on the forum when it is?

Thanks for all the help!

~Jack
Title: Re: Is AirpadX compatible with Android Market?
Post by: gjf on February 09, 2012, 05:37:00 PM
Jackronson,

What model Airpad do you have

 Model           X10             FCC id               manufacturer      manufacturer model
CM002  is a Airpad 7       Z4XCM002           Shenzhen Zizpo    ZR-701, M901, M910
CM005  is a AirpadX       ZAXZT280-C91         Zenithink          C91
CM007  is a Airpad7p      Z9UMOMO9C            Ployer              MOMO9
CM008  is a AirpadXL      Z9UCM008               Ployer              MOMO15

I don't have a model number for the original Airpad
Anyone have any other model number we should be aware of
2/11/2012 Updated adding original airpad7 info
2/22/2012 Updated adding FCC id's of Airpads

GJF
Title: Re: Is AirpadX compatible with Android Market?
Post by: jackronson on February 09, 2012, 07:06:21 PM
I have the CM005 by zenithink. Does that affect what the zt-update package includes?
Title: Re: Is AirpadX compatible with Android Market?
Post by: gjf on February 09, 2012, 09:18:24 PM
Jackronson,

If the zt-update your talking about is from the Zenithink website you might want to make sure
that the zt-update folder isn't inside another zt-update folder after unzipping it.
The root zt-update folder must be placed in the root of the sdcard.
Make sure the folder is visible from the Airpad and then do a complete power off then hold the camera button and
press the power button.  You should see messages in the center bottom of screen giving instructions.
Make sure the C91 file is for your serial number. As far as I've the Airpads are version "2N"
Serial number tag located on the left bottom side of the AirpadX holding it in landscape with the buttons to the top right.

GJF
Title: Re: Is AirpadX compatible with Android Market?
Post by: cjhallx on February 10, 2012, 09:38:15 AM
Just asking for clarification; is the XL a MOMO15 or MOMO15N ?  Thank you
Title: Re: Is AirpadX compatible with Android Market?
Post by: gjf on February 10, 2012, 11:47:46 AM
Checked FCC site and the documents submitted say that all 3 models are the same device, no differences

MOMO15, CM008, MOMO15N

Looked at picture of MOMO15N at pandawill and it doesn't have the same button configuration as the AirpadX

GJF
Title: Re: Is AirpadX compatible with Android Market?
Post by: diller3 on February 10, 2012, 03:41:56 PM
I have the CM002 Airpad 910 from November 2011. I use the amazon market without problems. The first tablet had to be sent back for a motherboard replacement, it would not keep the time. Since then it has performed reasonably well.  :)%
Title: Re: Is AirpadX compatible with Android Market?
Post by: gjf on February 10, 2012, 04:39:39 PM
diller3,

What size Airpad is yours?
Do you have the FCC id for your CM002?
Would you post it?

GJF
Title: Re: Is AirpadX compatible with Android Market?
Post by: cjhallx on February 10, 2012, 08:35:39 PM
GJF,

Do you have the new XL?  If so, does it  have the 4 control buttons on the right side of not? The MOMO15 has the buttons and the MOMO15N does not.
Does yours have the buttons or not?
Thanks.
Title: Re: Is AirpadX compatible with Android Market?
Post by: gjf on February 10, 2012, 09:25:41 PM
Cjhallx,

Don't have an XL yet. Have X and 3 7ps

GJF
Title: Re: Is AirpadX compatible with Android Market?
Post by: cjhallx on February 10, 2012, 11:09:06 PM
GJH,
ok, thanks. when you stated that you knew the FCC ID info i wrongly guessed that you had one already, I will post when I get mine ( the USB port died on my X and they are sending an XL as replacement) as to exactly which model it is.
Title: Re: Is AirpadX compatible with Android Market?
Post by: gjf on February 11, 2012, 07:15:31 AM
cjhallx,

I got the FCCID of the XL from another poster.
It is Z9UCM008

GJF
Title: Re: Is AirpadX compatible with Android Market?
Post by: diller3 on February 11, 2012, 08:20:00 AM
Gjf,
I have the 7" airpad 1. It came in early november. The FCC ID is Z4XCM002.
Thanks for all your helpful posts.
Title: Re: Is AirpadX compatible with Android Market?
Post by: cjhallx on February 11, 2012, 08:25:01 AM
GJF,
Thanks for the FCC ID. I looked it up and looked at the pictures. It is definitely the older MOMO15 with the 4 control buttons.  
I will be able to download the install flash from Ployer and hopefully be able to access Google Apps including the Android Market