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X10 AirPad Android Tablet => AirPad General Discussions => Topic started by: cyphon on March 10, 2012, 03:29:59 PM

Title: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: cyphon on March 10, 2012, 03:29:59 PM
When will the ics firmware be released?  The firmware that comes with it is useless and the one from the manufacture is very buggy and has a lot of Chinese only support.
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: cjhallx on March 10, 2012, 08:20:24 PM
I am passing this along from X10's Tech Support:

The ICS update for the XL is being worked on now, but the latest copy that I received was far from usable. I will try to get an ETA next week.
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: cyphon on March 10, 2012, 08:22:26 PM
Does anyone know where to get the firmware that came with the XL?  I want to roll back due to the buggy nature of the 4.0 release.  I have found on this forum the X firmware, but can't find the XL version.
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: X10 Repair Depot on March 10, 2012, 08:36:51 PM
I will post the original firmware for the XL on Monday.
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: cyphon on March 10, 2012, 09:16:48 PM
Hey Thanks!
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: cjhallx on March 10, 2012, 10:18:00 PM
Thank you.
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: X10 Repair Depot on March 12, 2012, 07:05:47 PM
Here's the firmware for the XL:

http://forums.x10.com/index.php?topic=26354.0 (http://forums.x10.com/index.php?topic=26354.0)
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: hairface on March 20, 2012, 07:30:19 PM
any word on ICS for the XL yet?
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: X10 Repair Depot on March 21, 2012, 08:01:48 AM
any word on ICS for the XL yet?

This morning I received word that ICS for the XL is due out next week, however, this will need to be tested and approved before it is released. I will send an update once I test it out.

Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: cjhallx on March 21, 2012, 11:10:59 AM
any word on ICS for the XL yet?

This morning I received word that ICS for the XL is due out next week, however, this will need to be tested and approved before it is released. I will send an update once I test it out.



Thank you for keeping us updated. That is very much appreciated.
Can you tell us if there will finally be support for an external bluetooth dongle like the AirPad X has?
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: X10 Repair Depot on March 21, 2012, 11:48:11 AM

Can you tell us if there will finally be support for an external bluetooth dongle like the AirPad X has?

I am not sure about Bluetooth support.
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: hairface on March 21, 2012, 02:12:42 PM
I will be a beta tester if needed
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: hairface on March 31, 2012, 08:38:59 AM
The week is over, any news on ICS ?
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: X10 Repair Depot on April 01, 2012, 07:23:18 AM
The week is over, any news on ICS ?

I asked the factory that question on Friday, and it still isn't ready. They expect to have it done this week. I will send an update when I have it.
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: hairface on April 06, 2012, 08:34:07 AM
well another week is at it's end and still no ICS.
 B:(
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: hairface on April 06, 2012, 11:55:05 AM
I see ployer has a new download for the CM008 hope it is a working version of ICS...
CM008-4-0331.rar
hopefully the X10 guys will give us some word about it today.
I have read alot of the allwinner based tablets are having issues with multitouch in ICS, looks like it could be a kernel issue but i am sure lots of people have been working on it.
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: cjhallx on April 06, 2012, 01:56:27 PM
well another week is at it's end and still no ICS.
 B:(

No Good Friday for ICS?
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: cjhallx on April 06, 2012, 10:26:30 PM
I see ployer has a new download for the CM008 hope it is a working version of ICS...
CM008-4-0331.rar
hopefully the X10 guys will give us some word about it today.
I have read alot of the allwinner based tablets are having issues with multitouch in ICS, looks like it could be a kernel issue but i am sure lots of people have been working on it.

I see the download file but it is password protected.
Do you have a link to an unprotected file or know the password?
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: jcoleman2164 on April 07, 2012, 08:33:17 AM
http://en.ployer.cn/UploadFile/201204/CM008-4-0331.rar

This one is a keeper. Multitouch is working again, appears to be stable.

The buttons are still not assigned correctly but I have fixed the keylayout files if you need them.
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: hairface on April 07, 2012, 09:04:00 AM
keylayout files would be most helpfull.
can u give a quick rundown of whats in this build...ie google play or is it atleast rooted like present rom ?
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: jcoleman2164 on April 07, 2012, 09:30:18 AM
Google Play works fine.
The browser is working much better than in 4.0.1.
Netflix is working.
It is rooted but you need the superuser app and to let it update the su binary.

Change these files in /system/usr/keylayout to get the buttons working.

axp20-supplyer.kl
key 116   POWER              WAKE

ft5x_ts.kl
key 139   SEARCH
key 102   BACK            WAKE_DROPPED
key 158   HOME            WAKE
key 217   MENU            WAKE_DROPPED

sun4i-keyboard.kl
key 102       VOLUME_UP
key 115         VOLUME_DOWN
key 139       VOLUME_DOWN
key 217       VOLUME_UP

Remove any other lines from those 3 files.

Between this update and fixing those buttons my XL is finally working the way I want it too.
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: cfree1961 on April 08, 2012, 09:08:28 AM
Thanks for the very useful info!! ICS is pretty sweet will take a little getting use to but much faster and seems to also give more info. :)% :)%
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: hairface on April 08, 2012, 05:28:57 PM
4.0.3 rocks....
did the update on the road this weekend and am totally enjoying the update.
H
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: cjhallx on April 08, 2012, 08:30:25 PM
On Ployer's website it says it is a custom build. It works great; and since it has Google Play  I do not believe that it is the build they are doing for X10.  Whoever it is for it works great so far.  
I did not have any problems with the control buttons that I have tried so far but time will tell.
  #:)
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: Jimdi on April 09, 2012, 09:22:07 AM
An Ice Cream sandwich would be ice for Easter!
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: ghawkz on April 09, 2012, 11:43:40 PM
For those of us who are still new to android - and Airpads - will the instructions for updating the 7p work (with the obvious change)?
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: X10 Repair Depot on April 10, 2012, 08:21:53 AM
For those of us who are still new to android - and Airpads - will the instructions for updating the 7p work (with the obvious change)?

The instructions for updating the XL are exactly the same as the 7p, you will just be using a different image file. The non-X10 image that was posted works OK, but it is not perfect. It still needs some additional work.
 
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: hairface on April 10, 2012, 08:27:03 AM
when is X10 going to jump in and bless this ICS version ?
Title: ICS Question for Repair Depot
Post by: Jimdi on April 10, 2012, 08:34:59 AM
I see a lot of "banter" about this new ICS version with link posted above?

Is this version have the blessing of x10?  Or will you do a seperate posting when the "official release" of ICS for XL is posted?

I don't want to flash my system for a "beta" version.

Thanks
Jim
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: ghawkz on April 10, 2012, 03:23:08 PM
On  a related note - what are folks using to backup their AirPads before upgrading?

Be well,
ghawkz
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: X10 Repair Depot on April 11, 2012, 07:16:46 PM
when is X10 going to jump in and bless this ICS version ?

When it is ready, and for now, the ICS version that was discussed earlier is not fully ready.

Once I have software that is good, I will post on the forum.
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: hairface on April 11, 2012, 07:32:04 PM
if the factory is still working on it can u ask them to add bluetooth usb to the kernel.
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: Jimdi on April 12, 2012, 10:24:51 AM
OMG that would be sooo nice if you could get inthere bluetooth usb support.....

I would love to have good audio come out of that to the stereo....


Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: daldude on April 15, 2012, 12:08:18 PM
Also it would be great to have support for a GPS Dongle via the USB Port.  :)% :angel:
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: cjhallx on April 24, 2012, 06:15:37 PM
There is a new upload file: MOMO15_ Android 4.0 firmware 20120406 on the download page of the Ployer website.
Unfortunately, the link is password protected.
Have not figured out if there is a direct URL yet.
Everyone else please feel free to try.
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: jcoleman2164 on April 26, 2012, 09:02:20 PM
http://en.ployer.cn/uploadfile/201204/CM008-4-0406.rar  I haven't tried it yet.

You can try here too http://www.ployer.cn/prshow.asp?id=118&p=zc good luck with that one.

Ok CM008-4-0406.rar and MOMO15 android 4.03_20120406.rar are the same images but the first one comes with the update tool.
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: hairface on April 26, 2012, 09:24:10 PM
Forget the 0406 image.....wait for the x10 release or install the 0331 image if u want ICS right now
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: untouchable4206 on April 28, 2012, 03:04:47 PM
I uploaded the newest ics img from ployer to a sharing site so hopefully the download will be faster if anyone chooses to download it.  The only thing is that it appears to be rooted but you can change anything...like the key assignments.  Hopefully someone will find a way around that and post the directions  ;D   So far I haven't had any problems and it runs much faster than the previous release.  Have fun.


Android 4.0.3 - IMG with Update Tool
http://www.4shared.com/rar/emGCr03V/CM008-4-0406.html

   
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: untouchable4206 on May 02, 2012, 08:04:57 PM
Been using the 4.0.3 image for about a week now.  No major bugs in it but does have a few.  Pretty much just browser issues though.  Also have my usb hub, keyboard, and mouse connected to my tablet to use it like a laptop.  Works very well.  Keys still aren't assigned correctly, but that was easily corrected.
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: dberk on May 05, 2012, 02:46:08 PM
when is X10 going to jump in and bless this ICS version ?

When it is ready, and for now, the ICS version that was discussed earlier is not fully ready.

Once I have software that is good, I will post on the forum.

25 days since last comment :' from X10 Repair Depot regarding XL ICS. Any update? >*< >*< >*<
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: untouchable4206 on May 06, 2012, 04:37:48 PM
No update on the X10 ics image.  The 4.0.3 image i'm using is still stable.  For now i's a good aternative.
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: Jimdi on May 09, 2012, 07:34:50 AM
Ok if i use the 4.0.3 image you are using...what do i have to do after install for my stuff to work?  Step by step please if you dont mind.
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: X10 Repair Depot on May 09, 2012, 09:26:52 AM
Ok if i use the 4.0.3 image you are using...what do i have to do after install for my stuff to work?  Step by step please if you dont mind.

The 4.0.3 image is the most recent one that I have available. The step by step instructions are identical to how you would install the X10 OS (instructions are listed on the top thread of this forum). Do keep in mind that this release is not perfect, and there are issues with it.
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: untouchable4206 on May 09, 2012, 10:56:34 PM
The repair depot is correct, there are some issues , but few.  Multitouch is sketchy and as long as you don't use the factory browser your all good.  Been using this image for a while now and still no major issues. I can post the corrected key assignment files if anyone needs them.  For now "I" think this is a good alternative to the factory image.  Btw, thanks to all who helped with key corrections and other little bits to make this image usable.  Message me for any questions.
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: cjhallx on May 10, 2012, 08:26:33 AM
Ok if i use the 4.0.3 image you are using...what do i have to do after install for my stuff to work?  Step by step please if you dont mind.

The 4.0.3 image is the most recent one that I have available. The step by step instructions are identical to how you would install the X10 OS (instructions are listed on the top thread of this forum). Do keep in mind that this release is not perfect, and there are issues with it.
So are you officially verifying that your next release will include Google Play (Android Market)?
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: X10 Repair Depot on May 10, 2012, 09:46:42 AM

So are you officially verifying that your next release will include Google Play (Android Market)?

I can tell you with 100% certainty that any official X10 OS will not have Google play / market.
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: daldude on May 10, 2012, 10:03:21 AM
Forget the 0406 image.....wait for the x10 release or install the 0331 image if u want ICS right now


What is the difference between the 0331 image and the 0406 image? I thought you had the 0406 installed on your XL and that was the one you helped me get the volume keys working.  :)
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: dberk on May 10, 2012, 12:45:02 PM

So are you officially verifying that your next release will include Google Play (Android Market)?

I can tell you with 100% certainty that any official X10 OS will not have Google play / market.

Can you tell us with some level of certainty whether or not Bluetooth will be incorporated?
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: X10 Repair Depot on May 10, 2012, 03:06:33 PM

Can you tell us with some level of certainty whether or not Bluetooth will be incorporated?

I do not think that bluetooth will be incorporated into the OS, but I am not certain about it.
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: Jimdi on May 10, 2012, 08:33:59 PM
What is the expected date now for x10 ics?
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: cjhallx on May 10, 2012, 08:38:42 PM

Can you tell us with some level of certainty whether or not Bluetooth will be incorporated?

I do not think that bluetooth will be incorporated into the OS, but I am not certain about it.
We want it so tell them to do it, aren't you their paying customer for certainly we are yours. Thank you and have a nice day.
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: X10 Repair Depot on May 11, 2012, 07:43:05 AM

We want it so tell them to do it, aren't you their paying customer for certainly we are yours. Thank you and have a nice day.

That unit was never sold with internal bluetooth support, so your approach is not valid. 
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: X10 Repair Depot on May 11, 2012, 07:46:16 AM
What is the expected date now for x10 ics?

I've learned from dealing with the factories that any date that they indicate really does not mean anything. I do know that they are working on it, and it will get done. They are promising a new version soon.

 
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: Jimdi on May 11, 2012, 04:32:07 PM
Thanks - and I agree
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: hairface on May 11, 2012, 04:59:27 PM
X10 Repair Depot:

We understand that the unit was marketed and sold as no Bluetooth. What we are asking is that they include USB Bluetooth support so we can use an external Bluetooth adaptor. without kernel support for bluetooth any external bluetooth will not be recognized by the OS.

H
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: dave w on May 13, 2012, 04:54:43 PM
X10 Repair Depot:

We understand that the unit was marketed and sold as no Bluetooth. What we are asking is that they include USB Bluetooth support so we can use an external Bluetooth adaptor.
Do you think they will do that for free?
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: hairface on May 13, 2012, 05:20:24 PM
putting in usb bluetooth support is a simple kernel config option before compiling.

H
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: cjhallx on May 13, 2012, 08:40:01 PM
I never asked for internal bluetooth support, that would require recalling every tablet and modifying the whole guts.
The discussion has always been about providing external support which is a simple process.
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: cyphon on May 15, 2012, 06:22:42 PM
This discussion got off topic.  What ever happened to ICS?  Any update on an ETA?
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: Jimdi on May 21, 2012, 11:18:43 AM
After about 5 days with 4.03 ICS - it is like day and night with the airpad, and a big part is google play.  I know others have said the apps are available if you look hard enough - but the effort needed to find these other apps (which may be outdated) compared to using Google Play - is rediculous.

Net having Google Play as part of the ICS upgrade is like selling a new car with 3 tires.   I will probably still move - just not as well.

 
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: IPS on June 05, 2012, 08:48:06 AM
Jimdi

Last night I upgraded my XL from 2.3.4 to 4.03. I find the browser to be very slow and if I want to open a secondary site, I now I click on post a reply, it came back with , www........not available. This time it worked on second try but normally I just have to give up. Also why does it keeps underlining as I type?

Do you find the same things or did I miss some thing?

IPS
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: cjhallx on June 05, 2012, 04:32:27 PM
Jimdi

Last night I upgraded my XL from 2.3.4 to 4.03. I find the browser to be very slow and if I want to open a secondary site, I now I click on post a reply, it came back with , www........not available. This time it worked on second try but normally I just have to give up. Also why does it keeps underlining as I type?

Do you find the same things or did I miss some thing?

IPS

First thing you missed was telling us what version/date you installed - LOL.  The best working one was from 0331 (03/31/12).  0406 is bloated and 0514 is a X-10 beta that a lot of programs have been crashing on.
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: Jimdi on June 06, 2012, 07:47:09 AM
 ;)mine is lightning fast and reliable with 0331
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: daldude on June 06, 2012, 09:53:41 AM
How do you know what version you have that is how do you know if you have 0331 or 406 or 0514?
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: cjhallx on June 06, 2012, 10:20:23 AM
You will see the date as part of the image file name.

Or you can go into Settings then select "about tablet" and look at the build number. 
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: Jimdi on June 06, 2012, 10:52:22 AM
What did you download? 

look at the IMG file - that you extracted and flashed into the airpad -

the name should contain the digits that match the version like XXXXXXX0331 or XXXXXXXXX0514 etc....

Or post the name of the img file you used and someone will tell you.
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: daldude on June 06, 2012, 12:48:09 PM
I think I have 0331 because under About Tablet it has 0331 as the last 4 digits in the build number.

My browser also is slow and many times will not respond until the entire page is loaded and if I try to get it to scroll it won't respond and I get the message that the browser is not responding so I tap wait  even the tablet will be sluggish at times even if the browser is not running many times after it wakes up from being suspend even after it has fully reconnected to my router.
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: Jimdi on June 06, 2012, 06:07:58 PM
Is it just 0331 or have you loaded a bunch of apps?   My browser dolphin flies.... some apps will dog down any system.   
See how it runs with just ics and go from there.  I find ics0331 much faster than 2.3.4 across the board.
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: hairface on June 12, 2012, 03:01:07 PM
X10 DEPOT:
how about an update
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: Jimdi on June 12, 2012, 06:56:06 PM
I agree haven't heard much since Easter
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: hairface on June 22, 2012, 02:32:24 PM
I would like to see the momo11 star image run on the XL. if anyone gets a copy please let me know.

Thanks,

H
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: tgannon on October 08, 2012, 05:12:47 PM

I've learned from dealing with the factories that any date that they indicate really does not mean anything. I do know that they are working on it, and it will get done. They are promising a new version soon.
 

The last update I see in this thread is June.  Has there been any word of an official X10 ICS for the Airpad XL?  I have see a lot of posts about beta's and unofficial versions.  Have I missed a posting about it?  Is it in a different thread?

Or has the factory just given up on the project?   B:(
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: hairface on October 09, 2012, 05:09:12 AM
look in the cm9 / cm10 upgrade thread

H
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: daldude on October 09, 2012, 11:18:06 AM
I was using the latest CM9 MOD and it was a improvement over the earlier version but still has the issue of running the battery down to fast even with Bluetooth turned off in less then 10 minutes it would be down to 94% but with the 0331 version it only went down to 98 percent in 10 minutes. Also it has a very bad bug where it does not shutdown the tablet when it gets below 6 percent of battery charge remaining or even below 2 percent, it just warns you at 15 percent and then 5 but will not auto shutdown and will just cut off so if you have it in sleep mode and forget it will not shutdown and just cut off risking damage to the system files.
I think maybe it is written for a tablet that has a different battery capacity and there for does not properly calculate the discharge rate of the battery.
I went back to 0331 but really miss  and the more stable connection to the Bluetooth dongle where unlike the 0331 image it does not disconnect from the Bluetooth Dongle once it goes to sleep requiring a reboot of the tablet to get it working plus with 0331 if you have the dongle plugged in when you turn on the tablet it won't enable Bluetooth I also miss the Bluetooth Audio support of the CM9 Mod.

CM9 has some really cool features like the option to either shutdown or reboot or reboot in recovery mode or switch to silent mode or switch profiles but the battery issue is a problem and needs to be addressed. ;)

CM10 has the same battery issue and is too slow. :-\
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: daldude on October 09, 2012, 01:07:17 PM
Has anyone gotten the 0331 image to support Bluetooth Audio. On my AorpadXL it still does not play the audio through my Bluetooth Speaker even though I have Phone Audio and Media Audio Check Marked and it even makes the light on my bluetooth dongle flicker indicating it is connect to the Bluetooth speaker waiting for audio to be played.
It worked in the CM9 MOD but I did not like how CM9 ran the battery down way to fast (even with the Bluetooth turned off) and did not auto shutdown when the battery got below 6 percent charge.
Is there a certain brand and model number of Bluetooth Dongle that works with Bluetooth Audio in 0331?
Title: Re: airpad 10.1 xl ics
Post by: BuBuSpidecky on October 15, 2012, 11:15:22 PM
HELP!!!
Anyone have a problem like this?
Any Browser window that opens is being read by some Limey Dude.
I went into settings..accessibility..Talk Back and it is OFF. Went to apps and disabled it.
Done just about everything I can think of. Even removed Google Talk and Talk-back. And it's still doing it.
How do I turn this off?!!! ???  It just started all by itself.

ICS 4.0.4 Last CM09 Build.

FOUND IT!!! Disable Web Scripts in Settings...accessibility.