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🔌General Home Automation => Automating Your House => Topic started by: juanka on July 03, 2017, 06:44:50 PM
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I tried a lot of methods before, but nothing worked. This one is easy, no programming skills needed, just a bit of patience.
The new Broadlink RM Pro hub works with X10 and Alexa.
This little hub is very powerful, also blasts IR signals, so it will control a lot of devices nearby (line of sight for IR)
The Hub learns RF codes. Once you go trough the process of creating all your codes (A1_ON, A1_Off, and so on) using BroadLink "e-connect app" (iOs and Android but no windows) then install "RM Plugin" app (Android only, paid app) RM will translate the commands as a Philips Hue that can talk to Alexa.
All set up is done using apps (no computer interface) and codes, scenes and macros are cloud storage.
I am very happy, finally all the X10 switches and plugs are working with Alexa.
What you need:
1) Your X10 gear (X10 HR12A PalmPad Remote Control to teach RF codes back to the RM Pro) about $14.
2) Broadlink RM Pro (The pro is the one with RF capabilities) about $37 on Amazon. Update to latest firmware.
3) Broadlink "e-Control" App (free, for your smartphone)
4) "RM Plugin" app, $2.49 annual subscription. RM plugin ideally installed in a stand alone power plugged android tablet or phone, since it needs to be running all the time (I used an old tablet, but a cheap android prepaid phone will work)
5) Alexa Device. (Echo, Dot, etc.) Dot is about $50.
Youtube tutorial. Search for "Control practically anything with Alexa" by Paul Hibbert
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1) Your X10 gear (X10 HR12A PalmPad Remote Control to teach RF codes back to the RM Pro) about $14.
Broadlink says 433MHz/315MHz for their RM Pro...
http://www.ibroadlink.com/rm/ (http://www.ibroadlink.com/rm/)
but you are implying it can learn and playback 310MHz. Have you done any RF range testing?
If it can learn/playback 310MHz then it might be possible to use it with Tasker & Broadlink RM Plugin Lite (a Tasker Plugin) without needing Broadlink's cloudy codebase or proprietary software.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.dinglisch.android.taskerm (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.dinglisch.android.taskerm)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=us.originally.rm_trial (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=us.originally.rm_trial)
And if it can learn other RF frequencies, it might be useful with other RF controlled devices like garage door openers.
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I do remember reading the broadlink was to be adding X10 support.
However as dhouston pointed out their site says 433 and 315 MHz supported RF.
Maybe they have added 310 MHZ and not updated their web page ::) :'
I do have a broadlink RF Pro in the city but never attempted to learn a X10 remote.
juanka, Are you in North America?
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I suspect that they have a software based tuning capacity bridging ~300-450MHz but only publish the default frequencies. If so, this could be a really powerful HA hub.
I've tried their support people a couple of times but fear they're actually the old X10 programmers who have found new employment. ;) :o :(
Of course, 433MHz will support the Itead devices.
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Looks like another work around has been found.
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I do have a broadlink RF Pro in the city but never attempted to learn a X10 remote.
juanka, Are you in North America?
I've added a Broadlink RM Pro to my Amazon cart but am waiting for confirmation that it can learn/playback 310MHz to actually order it.
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My Wife is bringing my Broadlink RF to the cottage today (hopefully). ::) :'
So I may have confirmation in a day or two, depending on what's on the honey do list! rofl
I had done a firmware update to it in order to get the RM bridge app to work. getting that firmware update was a challenge as broadlink didn't wish to send me a link until I explained My unit needed the update.
If there has been a new update since I hope the app will now allow it to update without a special download request.
Perhaps juanka can post what firmware version he is running! ;)
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I am in USA. RM Pro US version comes with proper plug adapter.
The device must be updated with latest firmware via the e-control app.
How to update firmware:
go to your control page in the app,
Click "+" sign on upper right corner
Click "Device List"
Click "eRemote" (his is the hub)
next screen cick on the upper right gear symbol
Click on "device Info"
Click on "firmware update" and precede. Last Firmware version is v20025
The learning process took a while, some worked immediately, other I had to try several times, but finally got all the codes. Only did it for house code "A" 1 to 16.
It is painful that they don't have a web interface to do it on a computer, doing all the learning and labeling in the phone takes some time. (I suppose with some kind of phone mirroring app, then on a desktop computer could be faster to manipulate the app.)
I shared my settings, so you don't need to do the learning deal, it is under "x10Broadlink x10 Juan"
Importing setting from their cloud from other members is extremely easy. After downloading each label will have to be renamed for your specific use. (Like, A5 is my Ikea lamp)
Once all set, it works pretty fast, I even used remotely outside my wifi via 4G and the response was quick. (I monitored via webcam to make sure)
Give it a try, under $40 is a lot cheaper than many other options in my opinion.
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If it will work with 310MHz it would be ideal as a hub for the Dick Tracy wristwatch smartphone for the handicapped. As an example, I could control X10, the Itead lamp holder, as well as two window A/C units and my SmarTV without ever leaving my recliner and without fumbling with multiple remotes. As I no longer drive I've no need to use it with a garage door opener but others might want to try this. I suspect it can learn a fairly wide range of frequencies.
@juanka, Thanks for alerting us to this. I think many will find it helpful. I'll be clicking the Amazon Buy link.
@Tuicemen, Could you check whether Bluestacks might act as the phone needed for setup?
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Make sure you get the 2017 version of the RM Pro (Amazon has it)
Serial number begins with RM03....
See images in this link:
w w w .dhgate.com/store/product/2017-new-version-broadlink-rm-pro-rm2-smart/397377925. h t m l
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Interestingly, the Amazon description says
The RM-Pro will control all RF devices/appliances working on the 433MHz - 315 Mhz frequencies throughout your home.
That might mean it can handle a wide frequency range.
How is the RF range compared to your Palmpad?
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@dhouston I don't have bluestacks here but will have to get it and test it here in the city I used a android TV box.
I used the RM bridge learning web page for learning IR devices (never tried RF but it is suppose to work for them too) you can use a PC If I remember right with it.
@juanka thanks for sharing the code it will make setup for house code A much easier for others.
If I can get my broadlink setup here I'll work at another house code. Most likely L as that's what most things here are set for.
Hope I can use the cm15 to learn the codes as I don't have a palm pad here (might have a universal remote x10 some where though) ::) :'
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I think I'll wait awhile. User reviews on Amazon are mixed and one user says he has trouble controlling an RF device at 10 feet.
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I'll test the RF range when/if I get things setup.
I downloaded the RM Bridge, econtrol and Bluestacks so I'm ready once the broadlink gets here. ;)
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If I remember learning from the econtrol app was painful.
Using the RM bridge and the web interface http://rm-bridge.fun2code.de was much easier.( I only did IR)
The documentation suggests it will do RF as well.
The RM bridge app is free verses the RM plugin annual fee.
BWSsystems is working on adding support directly to the HA-Bridge for the Broadlink so hopefully soon we'll not need an Android server
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I'm a total novice but can these links help (after getting things setup)?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.dinglisch.android.taskerm (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.dinglisch.android.taskerm)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=us.originally.rm_trial (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=us.originally.rm_trial)
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Both can be used though you would need to setup with a phone. There are a couple of threads on the unofficial echo user forum (http://www.echotalk.org/index.php) dedicated to the Broadlink RM. Many there use Tasker others use the RM-bridge to control with Alexa.
Sadly I can't test out Bluestacks here but it should work with the said apps.
MY mini PC is to old and or slow to run Bluestacks however I do have an old android phone here I can set apps up on and use the web link to learn the codes.
I had previously used HA-Bridge to send the command to my android TV box to turn on/off the TV/cable box and switch inputs.
Since I have HA-Bridge running now on my mini PC I'll test that way.
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I originally picked up this unit due to the fact X10 was promised.
I never realized it already had the capabilities B:(
I set it up last night and seen It had already had the latest firmware.
I downloaded juanka's x10 codes and did a quick test.
The cm15 sees all commands. :)% I quickly dug out a spare appliance module and tested after realizing the cm15 was set not to transceiver A ( took awhile B:( ) the module was controllable.
Since the CM15 is next to my TV and I had wanted the broadlink for its control the RF distance was only 5 feet.
I moved the cm15 to the other end of the house 35 feet and one wall away.
Pressed a button and nothing B:( after moving to 3 closer outlets I realized I was pressing the wrong button B:( so I started from the farthest outlet again being sure I was pressing the correct button for the module. Success! :)% RF range is far more then I need.
When I downloaded the codes I noticed there were several users that had posted code so rather then trying to learn code I'll see what has already been posted.
Hopefully in one is house code "L" ;)
>!
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What other type of codes have been posted? Garage door openers and ceiling fans would be good candidates. I've no idea what WiFi chip they use but the ESP32 is capable of learning & playing back the full range of RF frequencies used in N. America (approx. 250-500MHz as well as higher bands).
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@Tuicemen I am glad it worked! :)% I check those other shared X10 codes, but nothing really worked. (there is a lot of crap, I think people test and uploads and a lot of unfinished projects end up in their database that are not accurate)
During the teaching process, I had to try several times on some of the codes, but finally all were taken.
It appears the RF range is very good, I didn't have any issues inside the house. Even some of the problematic devices worked well this time. Only one x10 switch that is away in a detached garage has some issues (But it always had before)
The RM Bridge app needs a device with a static IP. I turned it off since I didn't want to eat all my battery and once I restarted it lost the link, probably because I had no static ip assigned to my phone.
I also added codes for my IR remotes, the "flower" IR blaster from the Broadlink also very effective. So far so good.
Now, since I can mix and match with other systems, I am looking for these cool looking light switches by Makegood (http://w w w . szmakegood.com/uspro.asp) also sold under different brand names on Amazon. Anyone using them?
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Your right nothing else would send a x10 command but they may have been using a European standards. :(
itead actually has some glass panel light switches https://www.itead.cc/smart-home/sonoff-touch.html thought I don't like their app for control most of their stuff can be flashed with different firmware allowing local control.
I attempted to use the web interface for learning but with out any success.
It does say It learned IR when attempted from here but when I test the device never turns on. B:(
The eControl app will learn both IR and RF successfully here however I can't seem to learn any more then 3 RF on/off signals before a device add over writes the last created B:(
I can see this will be a slow process. ::) :'
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I just created one for L housecode. See if that works.
If works, labels and icons can be customized.
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Thanks, I get some weird signals transmitting so the app may need to be restarted then re-download the code.
Cool thing, this will learn x10 security codes as well.
I only have a security flob here but managed to get all but the panic programed.
I'll have to wait till I'm here by myself to attempt that one.
>!
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After many test tries a distance of 30" between smartphone, remote and the RM when teaching the code worked best, much easier for the learning process.
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AH :)% the distance for learning RF with the web interface for the RM bridge makes a difference!
I was farther the 3 feet away trying the web interface learn.
To bad these couldn't be used in the econtrol app :(
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AH :)% the distance for learning RF with the web interface for the RM bridge makes a difference!
I was farther the 3 feet away trying the web interface learn.
To bad these couldn't be used in the econtrol app :(
So one of these RM pro device will really let me use Alexa to control my TV and X10 RF stuff too?
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So one of these RM pro device will really let me use Alexa to control my TV and X10 RF stuff too?
And, maybe even more - like garage doors, drapes, ceiling fans. If it can learn 433MHz, it can handle these devices (and others) from Itead...
https://tech.scargill.net/itead-slampher-and-sonoff/ (https://tech.scargill.net/itead-slampher-and-sonoff/)
And it would be really helpful were Broadlink to release an API letting geeks create interfaces for PCs, RPis, etc.
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So one of these RM pro device will really let me use Alexa to control my TV and X10 RF stuff too?
Short answer, Yes!
I have no problem using it with X10. I wish I had attempted way back when I first got it working with Alexa for my TV and cable box. ::) :' :-[
I've now got it arming and disarming my ds7000 I can't get it to do a panic yet.
I also am having a hard time getting it to learn my ceiling fan. But other then that it has been able to learn all other remotes.
I can't get Alexa to work with the RM Plugin Lite app but I suspect it to is an hue emulator which is what HA-Bridge is. Been told you can only run 1 hue emulator at a time.
The HA-Bridge is a bit more work to setup (currently)but the developer is working on adding support for the Broadlink to eliminate the need for an android server or the econtrol app.
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The article I read about support for X10 must have been older then I though. As I was waiting for a new firmware before attempting. The article stated support for zwave was coming as well a couple other protocols which have slipped my mind.
I may attempt to see if I can get it to work with the new wijit modules but with out a remote it may not be possible.
@dhouston
There are actually several projects on gihub for the rm broadlink most are written in perl or java
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I also am having a hard time getting it to learn my ceiling fan.
What frequency?
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@dhouston
There are actually several projects on gihub for the rm broadlink most are written in perl or java
I see several (even for Android) so it probably is just a matter of time. One indicates there is a leaked preliminary SDK.
https://github.com/torinnguyen/broadlink-android (https://github.com/torinnguyen/broadlink-android)
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@dhouston
There are actually several projects on gihub for the rm broadlink most are written in perl or java
I see several (even for Android) so it probably is just a matter of time. One indicates there is a leaked preliminary SDK.
https://github.com/torinnguyen/broadlink-android (https://github.com/torinnguyen/broadlink-android)
@ Tuicemen: This one seems right up your alley.
https://github.com/beckyricha/Broadlink-RM-SmartThings-Alexa (https://github.com/beckyricha/Broadlink-RM-SmartThings-Alexa)
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I also am having a hard time getting it to learn my ceiling fan.
What frequency?
Not sure the frequency is on the back of the remote but even with my glasses it is still to small to read.
I'll see if I can find a magnifying glass or maybe use my phones camera to zoom in so I can read it.
I suspect the frequency is out of range.
The fan is a Hunter
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Just used my Phone's camera to zoom in on the label, don't know why I didn't think of that yesterday B:(
Frequency is 350 MHz
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@ Tuicemen: This one seems right up your alley.
https://github.com/beckyricha/Broadlink-RM-SmartThings-Alexa (https://github.com/beckyricha/Broadlink-RM-SmartThings-Alexa)
I have played with that and Smartthings but was unsuccessful in getting it to perform.
However I tend to give up early on things if I already have a working alternative.
This still requires the RM Bridge not only to discover the codes but to send them to the RM Broad link.
Also with out a SmartThings Hub your stuck with using the cloud.
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So one of these RM pro device will really let me use Alexa to control my TV and X10 RF stuff too?
Short answer, Yes!
I have no problem using it with X10. I wish I had attempted way back when I first got it working with Alexa for my TV and cable box............
It would seem as if more and more workarounds and practical solutions are presenting themselves. I did an (iPhone) app store search and found other X10 control solution (Like http://1j2.com/ihometouch/ (http://1j2.com/ihometouch/)). It appears to work through a PC-based serve app similar to the Melloware (http://melloware.com/x10commander/) app I used for years.
I think the sales of [now] Millions of Alexa devices... and the largest body of HA users being X10 old timers... makes this a market looking for products. I hope the [new] owners of X10 get in on this soon. Because (as you posted) I myself also "tend to give up early on things if I already have a working alternative".
I've often thought I should set down and RE-design my entire HA setup. Then take it apart and rebuild it better. But.... I've never found the motivation and ambition required to get that done.
But.... NOW... I am motivated to let loose of a few more dimes and control my TV via Alexa. So.... maybe....
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I was able to set up all my IR devices, change icons, and create scenes -:)
This is how it looks so far:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wtmua02escbxlnr/Screenshot_20170707-122401.png?dl=0
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I was able to set up all my IR devices, change icons, and create scenes -:)
This is how it looks so far:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wtmua02escbxlnr/Screenshot_20170707-122401.png?dl=0
Not bad! :)% >! #:)
Years ago I was able to do everything with a Pronto to which I added 310MHz RF.
https://www.laser.com/dhouston/pronto.html (https://www.laser.com/dhouston/pronto.html)
But the RM Pro could be even more versatile, especially if it can record/playback other RF frequencies.
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I was able to set up all my IR devices, change icons, and create scenes -:)
#:)
I've managed to setup all my X10 devices even my X10 security console, all IR devices and changed icons but not done scenes yet( AHP handles most of them anyways for now)
Custom icons are easy to add as you can pull from any camera pic or other images.
I'm not sure I'll use the eControl app much as Alexa is a much better remote.
If I wish to control from my phone I'll use the Alexa listens app.
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Is any other way to command instructions to Alexa than just "on" and "off". To dim down, I programmed to say "Alexa, turn off dimmer" and I set up for 3 levels down of dimming each time (and it only applies for the last used X10 key). But It would be great if I can say "Alexa, dim bedroom lights 50%" Is this possible?
I am going to order a Broadlink Mini 3, so I can control IR devices in other rooms :-)
Scenes are pretty easy, same as any other home automation software, is like a macro. It would be nice if after scene/macro is finished, you can set up a default remote screen to open on e-connect; investigating that next.
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It's been several years since I worked with these but there is a list of some fan control frequencies here...
https://www.laser.com/dhouston/frequency.html (https://www.laser.com/dhouston/frequency.html)
And, I had forgotten that garage door openers use rolling codes which will be beyond the ken of the Broadlink devices.
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Is any other way to command instructions to Alexa than just "on" and "off". To dim down, I programmed to say "Alexa, turn off dimmer" and I set up for 3 levels down of dimming each time (and it only applies for the last used X10 key). But It would be great if I can say "Alexa, dim bedroom lights 50%" Is this possible?
Your best to email the developer of the RM plugin lite app. if it isn't possible yet they could add the option.
I know it is possible to dim with Alexa using the HA-Bridge. I Can say Alexa, Dim living room lights(value) in the city with Alex10 and the HA-Bridge.
-:) While I was trying to see what other things I could try to have the broadlink learn I thought about a car key flob.
it does learn them though the RF range may limit their use.
I programed in a Chev Silverado and an Equinox though both are out of range to test so more experimenting is needed.
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I'm sure car key fobs use rolling codes (like modern garage doors).
http://www.caranddriver.com/features/can-thieves-steal-your-keyless-entry-codes (http://www.caranddriver.com/features/can-thieves-steal-your-keyless-entry-codes)
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I'm sure car key fobs use rolling codes (like modern garage doors).
http://www.caranddriver.com/features/can-thieves-steal-your-keyless-entry-codes (http://www.caranddriver.com/features/can-thieves-steal-your-keyless-entry-codes)
Yes I suspected this too and never expected the broadlink to learn
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I'm sure car key fobs use rolling codes (like modern garage doors).
http://www.caranddriver.com/features/can-thieves-steal-your-keyless-entry-codes (http://www.caranddriver.com/features/can-thieves-steal-your-keyless-entry-codes)
Yes I suspected this too and never expected the broadlink to learn
But it would be interesting to know the frequencies.
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@juanka
I had to learn the codes for "L" as the templet you loaded still was for "A" also added AllLightsOn AllUnitsOff
I uploaded this for anyone kept your icons for on/off and dims
I also uploaded a template for my security remote (no codes learned) so users have a starting point for that.
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But.... NOW... I am motivated to let loose of a few more dimes and control my TV via Alexa. So.... maybe....
I thunked you had a Harmony Hub? Hub will interface with "her".
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But.... NOW... I am motivated to let loose of a few more dimes and control my TV via Alexa. So.... maybe....
I thunked you had a Harmony Hub? Hub will interface with "her".
I use Harmony (or Harmony-Logitech) IR for my upstairs TV... as well as my Home Theater (I even used the Harmony Hub in one theater setup I built for someone else).
In MY Theater... I use powermid-like devices and an X10 IR543 to convert the X10 IR signal sent by the Harmony to trigger a macro stored on the CM15A. The Harmony remote uses macro-like routines/programs as well. So by just pushing the "watch a movie" button.... a series of IR signals starts the projector, audio receiver, BlueRay.... and turns out the X10 lights. It was my Home Theater that got me into HA/X10.
I should also point out that I had used a windows compatible IR device through my BVC software to control a TV and a IR controlled fan. BVC also controlled my X10 lighting as well (of course). But NOTHING.... has the wife approval like Alexa. I think Bill (of BVC) was years ahead of his time. He did great work! It took a huge dollar and talent investment from a global corp... to exceed what Bill pounded out on an old XP laptop.
When Alexa became available.... with the ability to control the Harmony hub... it looked like a way to get some limited X10 control using my [Alexa] DOT. I seriously considered using Harmony's somewhat limited X10 control. I posted about it.
racerfern saw my post and generously shared with me his old Homeseer Hometroller (since he had upgraded). I am thrilled with the hometroller! And I now have full voice control of my X10 setup through Alexa. As well as global remote control using the Homeseer app. But I am always looking to plan a new project.... it would be nice to be able to have Alexa turn my upstairs TV on for me too. But.... I've also read about a gesture control IR device as well.
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I played a bit with gesture control while coding some support for the Kinects camera into one of my programs.
I wasn't convinced this would be reliable for HA.
For those not using the RM Plugin lite but are using the RM Bridge app I've attached code for HC L for it.
Simply open the text file copy the text then open the RM Bridge web interface (http://rm-bridge.fun2code.de/rm_manage/) to the import page type in the connect info for the HA Bridge paste the code to the Jason code section and click import.
You can then go to the manage code page and test/remove codes you wish.
The RM Bridge won't pull code from the eControl app :( nor will the econtrol app pull codes from the RM Bridge.
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I played a bit with gesture control while coding some support for the Kinects camera into one of my programs.
I wasn't convinced this would be reliable for HA.
I stumbled on a "Kinect X Box 360" at a thrift store, so bought it, thinking it had a USB connector. But it isn't USB. Must be only for the 360, OR is there an adaptor to to go from Kinect to USB? Can I do anything with this, or have I lost my $2.49 investment? <grin>
Thanks for any insight from anyone!
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The 360 requires an adaptor with separate power they usually come with the 360 however you may find one on ebay.
This is what you need:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/AC-Adapter-Power-Supply-USB-Cable-Cord-for-Microsoft-Xbox-360-Kinect-Sensor-/302220593766?hash=item465dc04a66:g:SPQAAOSwax5YnVwk
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Or pay more and get it quickly...
https://www.amazon.com/Nulink-Adapter-Supply-Mircosoft-Kinect-Sensor/dp/B00YZACJ3M/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1499644738&sr=8-4&keywords=USB+to+Kinect (https://www.amazon.com/Nulink-Adapter-Supply-Mircosoft-Kinect-Sensor/dp/B00YZACJ3M/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1499644738&sr=8-4&keywords=USB+to+Kinect)
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Or pay more and get it quickly...
Thanks Dave, but since I don't have a clue on how I am going to use this Kinect gizmo, I'm getting the ebay unit from China. It will be here by the time the leaves change. By then I should have some "gestures" for it. :'
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This is what you need:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/AC-Adapter-Power-Supply-USB-Cable-Cord-for-Microsoft-Xbox-360-Kinect-Sensor-/302220593766?hash=item465dc04a66:g:SPQAAOSwax5YnVwk
Thanks Tuicemen. I bought one. But now, what do I do with it? <grin>
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it will only connect one way USB to the PC.
I believe there are instructions on my site for drivers and things you may require.
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There is another app by broadlink that claims alexa connection with no bridge or other apps.
I wasn't able to find the BroadLink skill in the Alexa app as this remote app claims, but they have clear instructions with screenshots. Strange.
Since I did all my remotes, scenes etc in e-control, I am not in urgency to test this one. It is called "Intelligent Home Center" for android and iPhone:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cn.com.broadlink.econtrol.plus&hl=en
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Nice find!
This app was updated in July so it may be easier to operate.
I'll give it a test over the next few days. it looks like setup of IR devices (at least) may be easier.
It would be nice if you could import codes already learned though.
the fact that there is or will be a skill is promising. I can't access Amazon Alexa to look for some reason right now. ::) :' (cloudy skies ??? )
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Update:
I think the BroadLink skill for Intelligent Home Center hasn't been made available for North America (yet)
I can't locate it in the skills section either
Althought the learning of some IR devices is much easier RF isn't.
Editing names and adding icons is a bit more involved however the in app icon library is much more vast.
I didn't spend much time with this app just loaded a few devices prior to looking for the skill.
I also will be sticking with the eControl app (at least till the alexa skill is available)
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The BroadLink has a thermometer onboard. -:)
This allows triggering any learnable device code based on a set temperature (using the eControl App).
To do this you have to setup a user defined air conditioner. ;)
You can add buttons in addition to the power, heat and cool ones :)%
You can also edit or delete the heat cool buttons
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Yes, I figured the Alexa skill is available in other markets. Apparently the device is very popular in Eastern Europe and Asia.
I emailed the developer but I got an autoresponse in Chinese. lol. Hopefully this gets into the Alexa US market soon ;-)
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I too emailed them.my email stated they were docking. ???
This morning I found it doing a search for BroadLink, funny thing Alexa only found my TV when I asked to discover devices so it needs some work.
Seems only A/V devices that are IR are currently supported but those seem to work well.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073PLQYKS/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-skills&ie=UTF8&qid=1499957154&sr=1-1&keywords=BroadLink+Remote+Control
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Their Facebook page just posted a video today for the new app and Alexa integration:
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1618499524827147&id=865356486808125
I tested the new ihc app adding my Vizio TV and worked well with Alexa. It accepts more natural speaking commands, not just turn on or turn off XXX. I wished they had included the Alexa integration with e-control, since all the x10 keys and scenes I already created it for e-control.
The ihc app looks very stylish, and once you click on an appliance, like TV, draws over the screen with the most commonly used keys (volume, power, channel, etc) graphically I like it, but overall programming is cumbersome. Appliance recognition works nice, but still some keys that need to be taught back.
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I like the look of the ihc app as well however I think it was rushed as some things like air conditioners don't allow RF code scanning or inputting. The code sharing may come with future releases, especially if users comment/complaint in their reviews.
I tested out a timer to turn on the TV this morning. It woke up my wife and she asked Hey!! Who turned on the TV. rofl
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last night I thought about seeing if the BroadLink can learn the new Wijit modules.
This morning I successfully learned the codes for modules1-4 even though I only have the three pack.
I first tried with the IHC app and added just one before thinking Hey I should share these.
I opened the econtrol app and learned 1-4 had a bit of a hard time with module for but eventually it got it.
I shared to the cloud just search wijit.
I'll learn for the RM Bridge later and post on my forum in the BroadLink section I setup there.
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So it's learning WiFi codes?
If so, it should be able to learn Itead codes.
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No it is learning the RF codes for each Wijit module.
Although advertised a Wi-Fi modules only the hub is, ??? Since there is no remote for the Wijits it is a bit difficult to learn the codes but not impossible.
The trick is rapidly repeating pressing the on or off button to learn the frequency form the wijit app then repeat pressing the on or off button in the app to learn the button code. you need to do both on & off this for each module.
According to the itead forum, itead now has local control added to some of their sonoff devices Since I have flashed mine I can't test that.
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OK, so you still need the RF versions of Itead devices in order to integrate with the Broadlink. This is getting confusing. :(
If Broadlink releases an API, perhaps it would make it possible to control other WiFi devices.
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I believe the BroadLink will learn the itead Sonoff modules if they have the RF board.
I don't believe the broadlink its self will learn, find, or control Wi-Fi devices a program like Wireshark may sniff out sonoff codes.
Wireshark should a tleast find codes for the local control capable Sonoff devices.
Once the push, get, post is found it will be a simple add to something like HA-Bridge for control.
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If Broadlink releases an API, perhaps it would make it possible to control other WiFi devices.
A bit of web research indicates the Broadlink SDK includes an NDA which seems a shame. The Broadlink RM pro could be a truly universal hub (especially if we could use it to send WiFi to other units) capable of controlling RF, IR & WiFi. It would seem that open sourcing the SDK would only increase the demand for their hardware.
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Open sourcing always improve sales, I fail to understand why that isn't realized more. B:(
Companies spend hundreds developing software/apps when simply releasing an api or sdk would be much more beneficial
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If Broadlink releases an API, perhaps it would make it possible to control other WiFi devices.
A bit of web research indicates the Broadlink SDK includes an NDA which seems a shame. The Broadlink RM pro could be a truly universal hub (especially if we could use it to send WiFi to other units) capable of controlling RF, IR & WiFi. It would seem that open sourcing the SDK would only increase the demand for their hardware.
There is an unofficial python library to talk to broadlink devices. I built a smart remote for my ir window ACs using the broadlink mini rm3 and A1 sensor using this library to send commands and read the sensor. This library also supports RM Pro
https://github.com/mjg59/python-broadlink
and here is another python library to extract the learned codes from the e-control app:
https://github.com/NightRang3r/Broadlink-e-control-db-dump
And here is my AC remote which I have integrated into my ActivePhone X10 remote
(https://cdn.instructables.com/FZ6/SY38/J48Q18HQ/FZ6SY38J48Q18HQ.MEDIUM.jpg)
BTW: I'm using Google Assistent/Google Home with IFTTT.com to control my X10 using the same webhooks ActivePhone uses. It was easy to set up, but there can be a delay.
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Both eControl and IHC apps just released a update. eControl sees ihc timers and states to use ihc for Alexa integration. ???
I haven't noticed anything new with ihc ???
Maybe a merge of the two apps is coming ::) :'
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I updated both apps. Didn't notice anything new (??)
I keep doing progress uploading scenes and devices. For IR remotes it is hard to get the signal for power only "on" or only "off" The guys who have all these different codes sorted is Harmony, so I used a Logitech Harmony remote to teach unique codes. It solves a lot of problems, specially when you want to make sure a power off code is sent (and not the "on")
So, I guess investing in the cheapest Harmony remote is recommendable. They also have the unique codes to switch to specific HDMI, inputs, etc. Very handy, because with factory remotes I have to press until chose lets say HDMI3, but Harmony has one key assigned directly.
Happy Thursday everyone :-)
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Given my age and health issues I'm not eager to learn yet another programming language.
Something that could be really useful would be a way to translate the multitude of codes available in Pronto hex format (CCF) at RemoteCentral into the format used by the Broadlink devices.
http://files.remotecentral.com/index.html (http://files.remotecentral.com/index.html)
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Something that could be really useful would be a way to translate the multitude of codes available in Pronto hex format (CCF) at RemoteCentral into the format used by the Broadlink devices.
http://files.remotecentral.com/index.html (http://files.remotecentral.com/index.html)
That would be useful!
The IHC app has an extensive library for TV codes but that's it.
Since some brands TV codes will work with their DVD players I may try that.
I don't have everything setup in the IHC app yet so I'm using the eControl app more.
Finally got the PANIC code learned for my DS7000 though! :)%
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Is there an FCC ID on the Broadlink RM pro?
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Mine doesn't have one printed on it :(
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Mine doesn't have one printed on it :(
It's 2ACDZ RM3 but there's little to no information at the FCC - no schematic - frequencies listed as 315 & 433 MHz. The internal photos do not show any discrete RF transmitters so I suspect the frequency is software defined. The internal photo resolution is too coarse to read the labels on the ICs.
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Your correct on the number, I swear fine print keeps getting finer! rofl
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Your correct on the number, I swear fine print keeps getting finer! rofl
This comes in handy.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00524H8MC/ref=crt_ewc_title_gw_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00524H8MC/ref=crt_ewc_title_gw_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER)
I even gave one to the doctor I was seeing for the open wound on my ankle. During one of my visits he sent his nurse to find a flashlight so on my next visit I gave him one of the above. He now carries it in his lab coat so it's always at hand.
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I actually have one of those but couldn't see the FCC id last night B:(
Used my phone and zoomed to full before I could read the print this morning :-[
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Don't feel bad.
I copied the FCC ID; plainly readable digits in the post and I reversed two digits. B:(
After I got it straight.
I had a time finding it. The FCC went to a five digit Grantee Number.
Grantee 2ACDZ
There are three entries. Only difference I could see was which RF Test Report was in it.
The 315MHz and 433MHz. There is also a 2414MHz-2462MHz WiFi.
The internal photos do show a 315MHZ-433MHz antenna area and a WiFi area on the PCB.
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The internal photos do show a 315MHZ-433MHz antenna area and a WiFi area on the PCB.
And that 315MHZ-433MHz antenna appears to connect to the smallest of the three ICs bolstering my opinion that the frequencies are software defined.
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Here is the FCC ID:
https://fccid.io/2ACDZRM3
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I just noticed the solderpads at the edge of the PCB. Frequently, such pads allow updating/replacing the firmware.
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The row of 5 pads could very well be for programming.
The Insteon modules have a firmware programming connector. Looks just like the one in the internal photos.
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The Insteon modules have a firmware programming connector.
As do most ESP8266/ESP32 based devices.
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The Broadlink RM Pro is potentially an extremely powerful piece of hardware. It has a Marvell 88MC200 Arm Cortex CPU, a Marvell 88W8801 ARM SoC WiFi Controller and a Silicon Labs Si4463 RF Transceiver which can handle 142–1050 MHz. Now, if only Broadlink would release an API or some of the nerds who sussed out the details of the ESP8266 would apply their talents to it.
http://www.marvell.com/microcontrollers/88MC200/ (http://www.marvell.com/microcontrollers/88MC200/)
http://www.marvell.com/microcontrollers/wi-fi-microcontroller-platform/wi-fi/ (http://www.marvell.com/microcontrollers/wi-fi-microcontroller-platform/wi-fi/)
www.silabs.com/documents/public/data-sheets/Si4464-63-61-60.pdf (http://www.silabs.com/documents/public/data-sheets/Si4464-63-61-60.pdf)
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Can the Broadlink RM Pro receive RF as well as transmit? I had a project that was intended to use a ESP8266 to receive and decode a bunch of sensors. While it worked in testing, it did not work stable enough to deploy. I think the issue was related to the RF module I chose and I could never get the RFM69 code to work on the Arduino ESP library. If the Broadlink could read and do the decoding, I'd snap one up in a heartbeat! Well, that's assuming everything can be done locally rather than using IFTTT (that is a neat service, but I just want it local).
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Can the Broadlink RM Pro receive RF as well as transmit?
Yes, but...
While the Silicone Labs Si4463 RF Transceiver can transmit & receive frequencies from 119 to 1050 MHz and handle FSK, OOK, etc., it operates here under the control of the Marvell 88MC200 so until Broadlink releases a comprehensive API or some army of nerds publishes methods for reprogramming the 88MC200 the Broadlink RM Pro can only do what Broadlink has programmed it to do.
The Silicone Labs datasheet for the Si4463 says...
The devices are highly flexible and can be configured via the Wireless Development Suite (WDS) available on the Silicon Labs web site.
There's documentation available for the 88MC200 as well but the 88W8801 WiFi chip requires an NDA.
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So if I wanted to add a sensor that isn't already included, is that possible? I have a weather station, a few thermohygrometers, and a BlueLine power monitor that are all 433MHz. I know how to decode the packets and what defines a packet. The question is whether there's a way to add that to the Broadlink or if I rely on devs to provide the skill on Amazon or something. I want to be able to read the signals and send them to my HA system in some form (MQTT, web server with the info that the HA pulls from, etc).
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No, there's no way to add anything along the lines of what you need. Also, while the RF Transceiver chip can handle a wide frequency range, it's only listening when told to learn a new code (and only in limited frequency bands at present).
Maybe someone at http://hackaday.com/ (http://hackaday.com/) will notice the potential of the RM Pro and trigger an avalanche of projects like happened with the ESP8266.
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You can add devices/sensors if you can send the code so the Broadlink can learn it.
However once learned it doesn't listen for that code it merely repeats it if triggered with a Wi-Fi command.
I may be wrong but it sounds like you wish the BroadLink to send something based on what it receives via RF which it currently can't.
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Yes, I'm looking to use it as a bridge device to convert sensors on 433MHz (currently) to something useful like MQTT. This is not all that uncommon a capability, but when I tried to get it to work with the ESP8266 with the Arduino compiler, it did not work that well. It's been over a year since I tried last, but from the projects I'd tagged back then that looked promising, I've seen nothing new. This thing looks like it can do everything that the ESP series can do plus more and the price for that kind of capability seems pretty incredible!
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While, at the hardware level, the RM Pro has tremendous potential, unlocking that potential depends on Broadlink and/or third parties.
Broadlink is unlikely to release an open source type of API because most of the RF possibilities require FCC testing before releasing a commercial product.
That leaves it up to third parties.
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Sounds like I should repeat my search for Arduino libraries and similar projects. I don't expect an off the shelf product to do what I want without customizing and that's generally a no-no to support modifying transmit/receive of RF by the consumer.
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There is a leaked unofficial Broadlink SDK out there but I think it is geared to Android and only learn RF/IR ,send based on wifi .
However I've not seen it, so if you can find it and understand it ::) :', it may contain more info and possibilities. ;)
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Sounds like I should repeat my search for Arduino libraries and similar projects. I don't expect an off the shelf product to do what I want without customizing and that's generally a no-no to support modifying transmit/receive of RF by the consumer.
Take a look here...
https://hackaday.io/list/2401-home-automation (https://hackaday.io/list/2401-home-automation)
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Here is another app that works with Broadlink. Free with ads, and full features for the paid version.
Perhaps this one has more accurate IR database for appliances (an amazon reviewer said so)
SURE Universal Smart TV Remote Control
by SURE Universal Ltd.
Link:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tekoia.sure.activities&hl=en
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This appears to only handle IR devices however it also appears to have full Alexa integration.
Since I already have my device codes learned and incorporated with Alexa I won't try this one but am interested in what others think about it that test run it.
The learning can be a pain and the IHC Alexa skill appears to only allow TV control though I found away around that.
The trick is to tell IHC to setup a TV and go threw the setup process selecting a brand you don't have. When it asks if the device turned on select NO. Eventually it will give you the option to retry or learn just select learn and learn the buttons you wish. Then rename the device to DVD Player or what ever IR device you used.
this has worked for my DVD player and Sat dish. ;)
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There is a leaked unofficial Broadlink SDK out there but I think it is geared to Android and only learn RF/IR ,send based on wifi .
From what information I can find, Broadlink is adamantly opposed to releasing an SDK/API. That's a shame since its RM Pro hardware is ideal for a general purpose HA hub.
Back in prehistoric times (circa 2000) the Global Cache GC100 could be used to control serial ports and relays as well as send IR & RF. CodeGen could generate the CCF codes needed for a wide variety of HA devices and Global Cache provided a CCF utility which allowed the use of CCF codes. For RF it was limited to the frequencies for which there were small RF transmitter modules available and it had a wired ethernet connection as this was before WiFi became ubiquitous in our residences. The GC100 cost was about 4x the RM Pro cost and required a bit of DIY skills.
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From what information I can find, Broadlink is adamantly opposed to releasing an SDK/API. That's a shame since its RM Pro hardware is ideal for a general purpose HA hub.
So true. The so called unofficial leaked SDK isn't even acknowledged by Broadlink to exist. :(
It may actually be something created by hacking the Broadlink and if that is the case we may see something new come out of that!
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Hey guys. Very excited to see this product. I see that it is controllable via Home Assistant so I'm hoping to retire my old X10->USB device.
Can someone link the correct item on Amazon? I'm looking at www. amazon. com /dp/ B0742CXGHY/ and it lists:
3. Frequency range: 313.9MHz-316.7MHz and 432.5MHz-436.3MHz
Is this the same model that you guys are using? I just want to make sure that this is the right device. I also have a Hunter RF ceiling fan that I _think_ is a 330MHz device. Anyone know if this frequency is supported even though it's not listed?
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https://www.amazon.ca/Broadlink-Pro-Automation-Compatible-Smartphones/dp/B01GKY27B4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1508332675&sr=8-1&keywords=RM+Broadlink+pro
I also have a Hunter RF ceiling fan which currently isn't supported. The Broadlink does see the RF frequency however mine fails to learn it.
You'll most likely need to do a firmware update from one of the official Broadlink apps, IHC or Econtrol.
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I also have a Hunter RF ceiling fan which currently isn't supported. The Broadlink does see the RF frequency however mine fails to learn it.
You'll most likely need to do a firmware update from one of the official Broadlink apps, IHC or Econtrol.
Thanks for the quick response. You linked the RM2 Pro while I had linked the RMPRO . Is there a difference in the frequency range? Also, are you saying that you think your fan is supported but you haven't done a firmware upgrade? I downloaded the Econtrol app in hopes of seeing if someone had uploaded a config for the fan but I can't access the database without linking the device which I haven't purchased.
These devices only do X10 send commands right? I can't use this to monitor motion detectors, correct?
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Correct these only send however since they can learn RF they do see sensors and perhaps in a future app release that may be possible.
The RM2 is a newer version then the RM pro I see there is now also a RM 03 pro.
https://www.amazon.ca/Broadlink-Automation-Universal-Compatible-Smartphones/dp/B072MF92S5/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1508337357&sr=1-2&keywords=RM+Broadlink
Both of these state a stronger RF radio as the only difference I can see.
You may wish to contact Broadlink directly to see if there are other enhancements.
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I now have two of these units, one for the cottage and one for the house.
The Groups & new Routines in the Alexa App made this easy to turn on/off many things at once (Not just X10) with a single phrase.
The new version IHC app learns both RF and IR very fast (maybe the newer Broadlink has a better RF receiver)
Initial setup to the IHC app with the new Broadlink was a bit of a pain but the IHC Alexa skill makes it worth the trouble.
I've now retired my X10 PowerMids previously used to control my TV, Cable box, and Blueray Player.
I added it to the eControl app as well as that app has the ability to get codes from the cloud which speeds things up, virtually eliminating the learning process.
Both Broadlinks can be used in both apps and the apps know which devices are associated with which Broadlinks.
I managed to learn my window air conditioner IR codes but won't be playing with that this time of year. rofl
Since the Air Con is in another room I may have to put my PowerMids back into action to utilize those codes. ::) :'
The Broadlink has a temperature sensor built in so clicking on the Aircon displays the current rooms temperature. ;)
I tend to tinker more with Home Automation in the cooler months and this thing has many possibilities.
Combining this with the CM15A gives awesome power to my HA setup.
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.... I tend to tinker more with Home Automation in the cooler months and this thing has many possibilities. Combining this with the CM15A gives awesome power to my HA setup.
I (have for years) thought the period.... following Christmas and proceeding the 1st spring mowing.... was "Home Automation Season". Having pretty much ended my summer bicycling season.... I am now looking forward to winter weight training at the gym. And of course, serious HA improvement. I just ordered my "Broadlink RM Pro" (2nd edition?) . I also couldn't past-up another Echo Dot at the cyber-Monday deal of 29.99 (US).
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Hi, I tried everything that you suggested but I cant get the rm plug in to see the device or codes setup in the e-control app. It keeps popping up the instructions on how to share from e-control but i never receives any codes. Any suggestions?
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the Econtrol app is a bit of a pain to navigate until you get the hang of it.
were you able to register the RM Broadlink with the app? the app is useless until you've done that.
You might try the IHC app from Brodlink. I find it a bit easier to navigate but it is lacking the sharing and back up options.
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Today I got this working with the Smart things skill even though I don't have a Smart Things Hub.
You'll need to follow directions posted here along with the needed files supplied and a few edits you'll be up and running in no time https://github.com/beckyricha/Broadlink-RM-SmartThings-Alexa ;)
There are three options though If you don't have tasker or a smart things hub you have to use the cloud control option
Scroll down to the bottom to version with cloud control.
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I setup my [new] Broadlink RM pro the other day. I just did a basic setup. And included the TV and Cable Box in an "Alexa morning routine", as well as my "bedtime routine" (which includes an X10 macro). I am REALLY happy with the device and the job it does.
I added a wifi module in the mix as well.... since my current easy chair is a theater style elecrtic recliner. And with tiny grandkids around I thought it might be a good idea to lock-out the motorized mechanism.
I find it much easier/quicker to say "Alexa, mute the television" as I pick up the phone.... than grab the TV remote 1st. That in itself is good automation. I think for the most part.... I am fine with using my Harmony remote to control the TV and cable box. And will likely continue to use the Blue Ray and Roku remotes when using those devices. Even thought I have the option to use the Harmony remote to comntrol those.
The X10 operation part.... from what I've seen so far..... it looks like the Broadlink uses the X10 IR codes to/through an IR to X10 device (IR X10 Command Console). I use that same process in my Home Theater via my Logitech-Harmony remote (and have for about a decade). Fortunatly.... I even happen to have a spare IR X10 Command Console. I think.... the Broadlink/Alexa/IR X10 Command Console could control a decent sized automation setup... and do a very satisfactory job. IMHO
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The X10 operation part.... from what I've seen so far..... it looks like the Broadlink uses the X10 IR codes to/through an IR to X10 device (IR X10 Command Console). I use that same process in my Home Theater via my Logitech-Harmony remote (and have for about a decade). Fortunatly.... I even happen to have a spare IR X10 Command Console. I think.... the Broadlink/Alexa/IR X10 Command Console could control a decent sized automation setup... and do a very satisfactory job. IMHO
Nope the RM Broadlink learns X10 RF directly, thought I suppose you could go the IR way if you wished. Doing the IR would make for a bit slower response I would think.
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... the RM Broadlink learns X10 RF directly,...
Well then.... That could make the RM Broadlink a major help in making X10 a part of an Alexa setup. My RM Broadlink is setting in my living room... controlling the TV I use for daily TV viewing. Which puts the unit almost directly one floor above my CM15A. The RM Broadlink is much cheaper than... say, a [homeseer] hometroller.
I have one routine involving the RM Broadlink, that besides turning off the TV and cable box set top.....also utilizes my Wink Hub to turn off a Cree wifi bulb. As well as an ihome module directly through the Alexa/echo device to turn off an LED strip... AND an Etekcity (wifi) module to lock out my theater style chair, while also signaling my Hometroller to signal with an X10 PLC which triggers a macro in another CM15A.
As complex as this might sound/read.... the setup is super simple and works flawlessly.
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Yes, I've posted X10 codes for house codes "A" and "L" on my forum these are simple text files.
You need to be running the RM bridge which is an android only app then you can use the RM Bridge web interface to learn/import or export codes
http://rm-bridge.fun2code.de/rm_manage/
If you wish to go the Tasker Route you need the eControl App and there are x10 codes you can get for it posted to the cloud on the Broadlink server.
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Yes, I've posted X10 codes for house codes "A" and "L" on my forum these are simple text files.
You need to be running the RM bridge which is an android only app then you can use the RM Bridge web interface to learn/import or export codes
http://rm-bridge.fun2code.de/rm_manage/
If you wish to go the Tasker Route you need the eControl App and there are x10 codes you can get for it posted to the cloud on the Broadlink server.
Now.... that's where you lose me. In the iPhone App that I downloaded to my phone... as directed via the Broadlink package instructions.... it says to point the remote at the Broadlink device (and push the button). Does this only work with IR as I assumed?
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Now.... that's where you lose me. In the iPhone App that I downloaded to my phone... as directed via the Broadlink package instructions.... it says to point the remote at the Broadlink device (and push the button). Does this only work with IR as I assumed?
No, it also works with certain RF frequencies. While the hardware is capable of a wide range of frequencies, currently 310, 315 & 433MHz are supported. Initially, 310 was omitted but I think they quickly realized there was a market in N. America that used it.
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There are several apps for the Broadlink You may be limited with an iPhone.
What app are you running on the iPhone?
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There are several apps for the Broadlink You may be limited with an iPhone.
What app are you running on the iPhone?
I am running the Intelligent Home Center (IHC)
by broadlink Co. Ltd
There is also a: Broadlink e-control (also by broadlink Co. Ltd) Which I did NOT install it's app states its for smart plugs.
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Looking at Amazon, I see there are 433 MHz Broadlink modules...... but the 433 MHz is the same as/similar to X10... is my guess.
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The RF stopped working on the RM pro :-(
Lights blink but nothing happens now.
Hard reset, reload codes but nothing.
Contacted the manufacturer, see if they honor the warranty.
(Everything IR still works)
I'll be getting the new model meanwhile.
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I use both the IHC and eControl app both do RF and IR the IHC has the Alexa skill.
I can control X10 with both apps if I wanted to.
juanka, have you tried relearning RF devices or just sending existing code?
You can not send RF via the Alexa skill it is only for IR (currently)
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Strange only the RF portion failed.I tried all suggestions, thanks, but still no response.
The seller is sending me a replacement unit :)%
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HA-Bridge ver 5.2.0 now has the ability to send Broadlink RM IR and RF codes direct to the Broadlink no additional hardware/software required to be running. :)%
This even works with the Blackbean (IR only)
HA-Bridge can't currently learn the codes but since I have the RF codes for "A" and "L" (my most popular X10 house codes) this isn't an issue.
I also have the IR codes for my IR capable devices so these also were simple to add.
Many run HA-Bridge from a pi but is capable of running on a bunch of different Operating systems.
I currently run it on Windows as I was using it with a Cm15 but I'm now looking more seriously at moving it to a TV stick running Linux.
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What's the format of the codes you have?
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I'm not sure what format the Broadlink RM uses but it is hex format.
Here's what the IR power code looks like for my LG LED TV
260050000001279214111312143613121411131213121411143514361312143514361436143514361411141114111435141114111510141115351436143514111436133614361435150005160001274814000d050000000000000000Here is the RF code for A12 ON
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,
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That looks too complex for my age-addled brain to tackle. I was hoping for something simpler like CCF.
One of the first Broadlink-like devices (from 15-20 years back) that learned IR codes merely looked at the presence/absence of carrier every 25 microseconds recording a 1-bit for presence and a 0-bit for absence with some initial ID info. That is most likely what they're doing. CCF takes far, far less memory.
IIRC, the CPU-XA, Ocelot & Leopard from ADI had a similar approach.
They do look somewhat similar to the NEC codes in the 3rd & 4th CodeGenPro screens shown at https://www.laser.com/dhouston/cgp.html (https://www.laser.com/dhouston/cgp.html)
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OK, this is my problem. I got a replacement for the RM Pro. Now, these devices have a unique MAC address. So, it is almost impossible (?) to mirror/move macros from one device to a newer device, since all sequences refer to a unique device when the scene was created. This is a big pain in the neck. The scenes will have to be recreated pointing to the new device. I wished there was a computer interface so things could be easy then, even if I had to re do all the scenes. B:( I invested so much time adjusting everything first time...
It does make sense that everything point to unique addresses but it should be a way to easily transfer scenes between "devices" (read RMs / eRemotes) in case you want to move them around or expand your system or he device fails. Also complicates the connection with Alexa, the Alexa bridge will have to be reorganized as well. B:(
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If you used the HA-Bridge to configure the devices you could just setup scenes and routines in the Alexa app.
Changing the Mac ID info is a simple edit.
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Thanks Tuicemen for the tip. Will have to do that next.
All scenes are on e-control app. I didn't create the macros on the bridge. (My CM15A totally unreliable, that's why I migrated to e-control)
Now, I figured, you can reset each event in a scene. Still time consuming but at least the sequence of commands, timing, etc. doesn't need to be updated. Just the trigger itself can be restated pointing to another command (In this case the buttons that are now located on a new device)
I was hoping of a good desktop app. but apparently they are not planning to create one, then, controlling android/ios on a pc should be a good alternative. Used Bluesatcks in the past, but didn't find it fluid, maybe it is today (it was a long ago when I tested). But recently I read this article about another option. I am not a coder, not sure how to install it, but since some of you guys have the knowledge, here is the link:
https://www.slashgear.com/this-android-app-just-changed-the-desktop-game-scrcpy-09522796/
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So this was an interesting experiment. My windows xp computer that ran AHP and HA-Bridge died about three weeks ago and with it I lost all my Alexa Voice Controlled X10 devices (about 30 devices and macros). So I replaced the computer, and reinstalled everything. After spending almost 60 hours and trying every conceivable thing, I could not get Alexa to discover the devices on the new HA-Bridge. So, I bought the Broadlink Pro. I was already using their IR only version to control my TV with Alexa, so I thought this should be easy. Yes, I got it hooked up, and yes, it will send out an RF signal, and yes, the X10 CM15 will hear the signal. But most of the time, it only sends out the correct code once. After that, when I say fireplace on, it turns the bedroom lights off. Or something else completely crazy. It does this with the E-control android app too, so it is not an Alexa or RM Plug In problem. The Broadlink Pro repeatedly sends out the wrong commands. I'm sure there's a reason for this malfunction, and if anyone has any suggestions, I'd be open to hear them. I used the HR12A to send the RF signals to the Broadlink Pro to learn them. Maybe that was my problem.
Meanwhile, I said, to heck with this, and I decided to write my own ALEXA skills to control my system, using the Server32 program that Tuicemen developed several years ago. It took a day to learn how to write an Alexa skill, but it only took four lines of new code to make it work. So now I am back up and running using a separate Alexa skill for each device. It takes about 5 minutes to create each skill/command. I'm sure it could be done very elegantly for someone with some actual knowledge. Anyway, thanks for all of the guidance on this forum.
'use strict';
const Alexa = require('alexa-sdk');
const http = require('http'); //this I had to add to the sample code
const APP_ID = undefined;
const SKILL_NAME = 'http for me';
const GET_DATA_MESSAGE = "Okay: ";
const HELP_MESSAGE = 'What can I help you with?';
const HELP_REPROMPT = 'What can I help you with?';
const STOP_MESSAGE = 'Goodbye!';
const handlers = {
'LaunchRequest': function () {
this.emit('HttpGetIntent');
},//this I had to add to the sample code
'HttpGetIntent': function () {
http.get ('http://xxx.xx.xxx.xxx:8086/?~sendplc e9 on');
},//this I had to add to the sample code
'AMAZON.HelpIntent': function () {
const speechOutput = HELP_MESSAGE;
const reprompt = HELP_REPROMPT;
this.response.speak(speechOutput).listen(reprompt);
this.emit(':responseReady');
},
'AMAZON.CancelIntent': function () {
this.response.speak(STOP_MESSAGE);
this.emit(':responseReady');
},
'AMAZON.StopIntent': function () {
this.response.speak(STOP_MESSAGE);
this.emit(':responseReady');
},
};
exports.handler = function (event, context, callback) {
const alexa = Alexa.handler(event, context, callback);
alexa.APP_ID = APP_ID;
alexa.registerHandlers(handlers);
alexa.execute();
};
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the new HA-Bridge has support for sending code from the Broadlink.
I have codes for I believe for House codes A & L on my forum. you do not need the android RM Bridge for the Broadlink to work with HA-Bridge.
If it was running that may be the reason for the strange behaviour.
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I am thinking my Broadlink update.... may have changed things....