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📸Cameras & Camera Software => AirSight Cameras => Topic started by: TJMay on July 04, 2021, 11:22:01 AM

Title: Name of Camera Sending Motion Notification
Post by: TJMay on July 04, 2021, 11:22:01 AM
There are just too many threads and keywords to make an effective search.

So, could someone please tell me how to rename X69A cameras so that the name sent in a motion notification is more descriptive than its UID?

Thank you...
Title: Re: Name of Camera Sending Motion Notification
Post by: TJMay on October 31, 2021, 04:31:09 PM
I'm still trying to find a way to have the X10Airsight IOS App send the IP Camera's Name (more meaningful) rather than the GUID upon motion detection.

Can anyone help?

Tommy
Title: Re: Name of Camera Sending Motion Notification
Post by: Tuicemen on November 01, 2021, 07:18:07 AM
I dont use the app.
Log onto your camera via its Ip.
Setup the camera name, motion sensor triggers and email notification from it.
Title: Re: Name of Camera Sending Motion Notification
Post by: TJMay on November 01, 2021, 09:51:18 AM
Thanks, TUICEMEN

I have examined the Airsight IP Camera Viewer configuration from start to finish and cannot find a way to accomplish this.

Can you recommend a viewer that can send a notification upon motion detection that sends the user-inserted camera name rather than the camera UID?

Thanx...
Title: Re: Name of Camera Sending Motion Notification
Post by: Tuicemen on November 01, 2021, 10:59:37 AM
I don't use an app for notifications. These are sent directly from my camera and configured from its webpage. Option to send email is under alarm settings/motion detection. Email setting info is set under network settings.
If you wish a SMS instead of a email I believe this is possible too, however you need to know your service providers SMS email link info.
Title: Re: Name of Camera Sending Motion Notification
Post by: brobin on November 01, 2021, 12:31:13 PM
Here's a fairly complete list of the email domains used for email to text in the US and Canada.  Just put your 10 digit number before the @:
https://support.teamunify.com/en/articles/227-email-to-sms-gateway-list

My motion detector, package drop and mailbox all text me when opened/activatated.
Title: Re: Name of Camera Sending Motion Notification
Post by: TJMay on November 03, 2021, 01:32:52 PM
Thanks, TUICEMEN and BROBIN.

I clicked Send Email in the Motion Detection tab but when attempting to save after entering the email information in the Network tab, I get "params error"

By trial and error, I think I found that it is the password field that causes the error.

Any help appreciated.
Title: Re: Name of Camera Sending Motion Notification
Post by: brobin on November 03, 2021, 02:01:37 PM
Are you using any password characters other than numbers and letters?  Some older systems may not accept non-alphnumeric characters like !#$%&?+.  If so, reset your email password using just alpha-numerics and you should be good to go.  Another issue could be password length if it's more than 8 characters so shortening to a password with no more than 8 alpha-numerics might be the solution.

If you aren't comfortable changing the password on your email account you can get a free email account from google, yahoo, mail.com and many others and just use that for your camera and other low security applications.  I do that myself.
Title: Re: Name of Camera Sending Motion Notification
Post by: TJMay on November 03, 2021, 03:54:06 PM
That was it!

My regular password had some special characters.

I have setup a new email account with a password with just numbers and letters and now, all is well in the world!

Thanks again for your help...

TJ
Title: Re: Name of Camera Sending Motion Notification
Post by: brobin on November 03, 2021, 04:06:04 PM
Glad to help and that it was an easy fix!  >!
Title: Re: Name of Camera Sending Motion Notification
Post by: TJMay on November 03, 2021, 04:14:27 PM
Oooooops!

Spoke too soon.

After creating the new gmail account with a password that was only numbers and letters, I was able to get the Airsight Camera to accept the smtp user name and password but the test now reports FAIL.

What's the next trick to get this to work?
Title: Re: Name of Camera Sending Motion Notification
Post by: brobin on November 03, 2021, 04:37:47 PM
I don't really know anything about the Airsight Camera but the web interface for my Stagate controller can't send emails through gmail due to the higher level of security that many email providers like gmail have required in the last 5 years.  My solution to that was to send the email through SMTP2GO.com and you can use whaterver email address you like.  They have a free account that gives you a generous 1000 free emails/month which should be enough for your application.  It enables you to use the older style less secure SMTP ports like 2525 successfully.  Have a look and see if that solves it for you.  I've been using it for about 5 years now with no issues so my old Stargate controller can send emails.

I have no idea if this is the problem but at least it's something to look at.
Title: Re: Name of Camera Sending Motion Notification
Post by: Tuicemen on November 03, 2021, 05:49:32 PM
I never had any luck with gmail and the Airsight I used hotmail when I was using the motion alarm.
Title: Re: Name of Camera Sending Motion Notification
Post by: TJMay on November 04, 2021, 04:30:53 PM
I just can't give this up!

After trying all of the suggestions you guys have made, I have gotten to the point where the TEST function reports:
 
"Test  ...  Cgi program failed"

Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Name of Camera Sending Motion Notification
Post by: brobin on November 04, 2021, 04:50:33 PM
Sorry, I got nothin' at this point.
Title: Re: Name of Camera Sending Motion Notification
Post by: Tuicemen on November 04, 2021, 05:29:11 PM
I just checked my off grid Airsight which was set using Hotmail, it still reports a success  when pressing test.  If your trying with hotmail one of your settings may be off. Post a screen shot with your email address edited out and I can compare settings.
Title: Re: Name of Camera Sending Motion Notification
Post by: TJMay on November 05, 2021, 09:02:11 AM
Here is the email setup screen.

I've tried several mail servers; this one is outlook.com which replaced hotmail?

I tried port 465 as well with the same failure.

Can you see anything that might cause the test to fail?
Title: Re: Name of Camera Sending Motion Notification
Post by: brobin on November 05, 2021, 11:25:24 AM
Have you tested port 25 or 2525 with SSL turned off? 
Title: Re: Name of Camera Sending Motion Notification
Post by: Tuicemen on November 05, 2021, 11:52:10 AM
I believe your smtp is wrong every thing else looks good.
Try smtp.live.com instead of smtp.outlook.com
Title: Re: Name of Camera Sending Motion Notification
Post by: TJMay on November 05, 2021, 12:44:58 PM
Tuicemen,

You got it!

I changed the smtp to live from outlook and "It Lives!"

Thanks guys...
Title: Re: Name of Camera Sending Motion Notification
Post by: brobin on November 05, 2021, 01:03:33 PM
 #:)
Title: Re: Name of Camera Sending Motion Notification
Post by: TJMay on November 05, 2021, 04:09:25 PM
This is very frustrating!

After much trial and error following the advice given here, I finally got the right parameters and passed the internal email configuration test.

The Airsight app then sent the first four or five emails as expected. Then, it stopped and now the test fails.

Any ideas what to look at to determine why the emails all of a sudden fail?
Title: Re: Name of Camera Sending Motion Notification
Post by: Tuicemen on November 05, 2021, 05:24:41 PM
You might want to check your junk or spam folder if you get to many emails some times they'll get flagged as spam and you'll need to mark as not spam. Creation of a rule to move those emails to a special folder may help. You can also try sending to a different address.
Title: Re: Name of Camera Sending Motion Notification
Post by: TJMay on November 06, 2021, 09:34:00 AM
I may have led you astray about too many emails being the problem.

Actually, after stumbling upon the configuration in the network settings menu that resulted in a successful test and having emails successfully sent upon motion detection, the camera simply stopped sending emails.

When I noticed the emails had stopped, I performed the internal camera test again and it failed! Nothing had changed in the camera settings.

So, what can you think of that might have changed either on the desktop PC or the Outlook server that caused a working camera email delivery system to fail the internal test?
Title: Re: Name of Camera Sending Motion Notification
Post by: Tuicemen on November 06, 2021, 09:47:58 AM
If your setting haven't  changed the issue is with outlook. And to many emails in a short period is most likely the culprit. Try changing the recipient email address and do a test.
Title: Re: Name of Camera Sending Motion Notification
Post by: TJMay on November 06, 2021, 10:18:35 AM
I'm going to show my ignorance here but could any of the other configuration variables be causing this new failure?

While I am pretty sure none of these variables were changed, still, could UPNP or DDNS or FTP settings be the culprit?
Title: Re: Name of Camera Sending Motion Notification
Post by: brobin on November 06, 2021, 11:05:21 AM
Just a thought, but have you tried unplugging the camera and plugging it back in? Sometimes rebooting a device after making changes helps by clearing out any old settings in memory.  No idea if this will make a difference but easy enough to try.
Title: Re: Name of Camera Sending Motion Notification
Post by: TJMay on November 06, 2021, 11:59:11 AM
I had the same thought and unplugged the camera, my router, my modem and rebooted the PC, all to no avail.

Perhaps someone can suggest another IP camera viewing app that can run on a PC, connect to the Airsight camera and successfully send an email upon motion detection?
Title: Re: Name of Camera Sending Motion Notification
Post by: brobin on November 06, 2021, 12:32:27 PM
Try IP Camera Viewer for Android by Robert Chou.  It supports Airsight cameras and hundreds of others.  I've been using the app for many years and love it.  It's free for 4 cameras and just $4 one time for premium so try it out to at least see if it works. https://hit-mob.com/

It is NOT a windows program. The WIN program by the same name is not the same software and I don't know anything about it but who knows, maybe it'll work too.
Title: Re: Name of Camera Sending Motion Notification
Post by: Tuicemen on November 06, 2021, 01:00:05 PM
You may wish to try ispy if you wish to run a computer it is free open source and supports many cameras. It has been many years since I used it but it is still alive and now is available for a raspberry pi.
https://www.ispyconnect.com/
Title: Re: Name of Camera Sending Motion Notification
Post by: TJMay on November 06, 2021, 04:00:48 PM
Not being one to give up easily, I have now tried mail servers from gmail, yahoo and outlook. All of the mail clients were tested with regular emails and all work as expected.

So, it appears that the failure of the Airsight Cameras to send mail resides on my end; either the camera, network or router is interfering with the camera's ability to send an email.

It worked for a short time and then something changed!

Any suggestions on what to look at?

And, BTW, a sincere thank you to all of you who are willing to share your experience and knowledge for no other reason than to be helpful to another who is struggling.
Title: Re: Name of Camera Sending Motion Notification
Post by: brobin on November 06, 2021, 05:37:40 PM
Have you tried the SMTP2GO.com service I mentioned? You can use any of your existing email addresses if you want. It might just work for you and you don't have to use security which may be the issue. You can set it up and test it in less than 10 minutes.
Title: Re: Name of Camera Sending Motion Notification
Post by: TJMay on November 07, 2021, 09:48:49 AM
Another clue!

Late last night, one of the 6 Airsight Cameras sent a motion detected email!

Upon receipt of that email, I used my iPad to connect to the camera both via the Airsight App and directly via Safari and both initiated a successful test of the email configuration.

This morning, with no changes made to the Airsight Camera, I repeated the email configuration test of that camera via Safari, the Airsighjt App and my Desktop and all failed.

So, could the issue be a time-of-day issue and if so, what controls this?
Title: Re: Name of Camera Sending Motion Notification
Post by: TJMay on November 08, 2021, 11:17:09 AM
I found it!

One of you guys mentioned it a few posts ago but I didn't put it together.

I am using Outlook (HotMail) and unbeknownst to me, until you verify the account, the number of emails are limited. That explains why some did and some didn't.

Once verified, all emails are getting out as expected.

Thanks again to all of you for sharing your knowledge with the tech-challenged among us.
Title: Re: Name of Camera Sending Motion Notification
Post by: Michael Miltich on March 30, 2022, 12:00:55 PM
FYI The X10 cameras must use old email protocol that is no longer considered "secure". You cannot send emails to an AOL account for this reason. You can to a GMAIL account but only if you tell Google to accept non-secure devices AND this will end in May. And it resets every so often.

So what other free email accounts are people using with these cameras?

Michael

Title: Re: Name of Camera Sending Motion Notification
Post by: toasterking on March 30, 2022, 04:12:45 PM
So what other free email accounts are people using with these cameras?
I'm not using this camera, but I have some old server-type applications that need to send notification emails.  Like you, I used to use Gmail, but my ability to do so was broken in a previous update.  I now use SMTP2GO (https://www.smtp2go.com/).  You have to create a membership account first, then you can create a legacy SMTP account for each of your applications.  Use the latter credentials and server/port "mail.smtp2go.com:2525" in your applications.  A free account allows your applications to send 25 emails per hour.