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Title: My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly
Post by: Helpful Hints on April 24, 2005, 11:03:06 AM
Those who have a CM15A doing the job they
bought it for or “feel they want to claim
such or just want to provide a testimonial
PLEASE ALSO PROVIDE the particulars that you
did to help make it reliable and fully
functional to your needs.  For example: I
managed to overcome the lack of a hardware
Master reset by:
Courtesy of  “One who is warching”
1.   Disconnect from USB
2.   Unplug from wall
3.   Remove the batteries
4.   Face due North NorthWest and thump
your chest 5 times waiting for 5 seconds
between thumps (sometimes overnight helps –
or not).
5.   Now reconnect to USB,
6.   Plug back into wall,
7.   Reinstall the batteries
8.   Reinstall AHP or drivers as may be
required …
Wow is this technical or what?

OR

I managed to overcome the “varying RF range”
problem by buying a bunch of TM751’s and
when they created some “PLC race condition”
I simply bought some TM503’s to replace them.

OR

I overcame the skipped macro execution by
simply abandoning those macros.

Please lets keep I civil no personal attacks
or criticism.
Only concept and functional aspects are on
the table for critique and analysis.
Title: Re: My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly
Post by: SteveRF on April 24, 2005, 02:05:36 PM
Helpful,

1.  I overcame your 8 step reset by using
Active Home Professional software and
selecting TOOLS, Clear Interface Memory.
That worked for me.

2.  I have not had to purchase any external
products (yet) to enhance RF range (in house
works fine) but I do intend on modifying the
unit this week by adding an external antenna
decoupled from the CM15A by a coax cable.
The intent here is to extend range around the
exterior of the home.

3.  I have not had to abandon any macros
(yet) due to "skipping".  I did have to
modify (correct) a macro due to "user" stupidity.

The only problem I have now is the units lack
of robustness (processing ability) when it
comes to multiple RF receptions within
seconds of each other and the status report
not generating a correct report.

Now that I have said that, I bet something
will happen with the unit to change my entire
outlook...smile
Regards,
SteveRF
Title: Re: My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly
Post by: Observer on April 24, 2005, 02:09:04 PM
My system is now operating satisfactorily; I
have replaced the X10 AHP/CM15A with 1132CUP
and V572AB and discarded the TM751’s.
Thanks X10 Company.  Your product
performance, service, and attitude helped me
decide.  Life is good again!
Title: Re: My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly
Post by: Helpful Hints on April 24, 2005, 02:36:13 PM
Steve RF:

You really should be more careful with the
personal pronouns the 8 step is not mine it
is X10’s, yours, and quite a few other forum
participants.  I have seen many such
references on this forum.  Furthermore the
Tools>Clear does not do a full
hardware “Master Reset” so although it was a
creative answer it lacks accuracy.

External is a slight of word since other X10
products that assist, I assume under your
definition, are not “external”  --- racing
towards flawed analysis . . .

Can’t argue there. . .  However one mistake
only?  Bit stingy on the coming clean.
Remember I’ve been reading some of the forum
threads.  Macro rewrite/modification is not
abandonment as you see it . . .  We are now
approaching intellectual turpitude…

Ah here is the plausible deniability some
evil mystical thing is holding back this
perfect device from achieving its ultimate
destiny.

Follows the ultimate cope out.  If things
prove out to be otherwise, well then its not
flawed analysis or poor judgment it’s this
external thing called chance, fate, etc.

Are you a fiction writer by trade?
Title: Re: My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly
Post by: SteveRF on April 24, 2005, 02:59:34 PM
OH, I forgot to add:
My second CM15A has been working well,
performing audible announcements throughout
the day by using the X10Dispatch program.  It
catches PL Commands and translates them into
voice announments of selected events
throughout the day and evening.  I can tell
if the "working" CM15A maintains the correct
time by hearing a couple of announcements
that are based on AHP timers.  Since 7 Mar
almost all events have been executed on
schedule and to the minute.
X10Dispatch is a neat little program and it's
use helps me keep an eye on the "working"
CM15A.  It added a bit more fun to the CM15A
world.
Regards,
SteveRF
Title: Re: My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly
Post by: Helpful Hints on April 24, 2005, 07:05:04 PM
Has anyone else noticed the pattern?  Every
time someone provides objective analysis
pointing out some deficiencies in
AHP/CM15A.  Up jumps SteveRF with a
testimonial and an insult trying to defuse
the issue?  
Title: Re: My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly
Post by: SteveRF on April 24, 2005, 07:45:17 PM
Helpful....
Your personal attacks are not appreciated.
Your objective analysis is quoted below...
Something about facing north and thumping a
chest is not, in my opinion, very objective.
My remarks are the way I see it and the way
my CM15A is working.  Apparently you have
been so unhappy that you replaced your CM15A
and are now a happy camper with a competitors
product.  I am happy for you... enjoy !

Helpful Hints said:
1.   Disconnect from USB
2.   Unplug from wall
3.   Remove the batteries
4.   Face due North NorthWest and thump
your chest 5 times waiting for 5 seconds
between thumps (sometimes overnight helps –
or not).  
Title: Re: My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly
Post by: Observer on April 24, 2005, 07:49:42 PM
CM15A release batch 05C10 can't be the good
one Steve RF says that his flawless CM15A is
a non incrementing "serial number 04J44"
(must be a batch or release number). Isn't
that an earlier version?  Could someone
explain please?  Can we request a certain
release number when we order?
Title: Re: My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly
Post by: Scotty on April 24, 2005, 08:02:39 PM
Steve..... I bought a CM15A in January. To
this day I can't get it to work correctly
after disconnecting it from the computer.
After an hour or so, it looses the times
when the units should work...... leading to
nothing working at all!!!!  I've tried
everything I've found on this site....
still it doesn't work!!! I finally had to
go back to my CP290 to get everything to
work correctly (AND ON TIME to the minute).
Basically X10 screwed me and others too,for
$50.00..... Steve, you might have one thats
works great, but if you look around!!!!!
you will notice many others that have
CM15's that don't.... So, there must be
something to this....
Title: Re: My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly
Post by: Scotty on April 24, 2005, 08:08:13 PM
Oh, by the way..... I have been a
electronic tech for 30 years and I do have
experience on computers....... The CM15A
from X10 is a failure!! I truly believe X10
knew about the problems with the CM15A
before they ever started selling them.
Title: Re: My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly
Post by: SteveRF on April 24, 2005, 08:09:06 PM
Observer,
Both the original and the diag unit have the
number 04J44... The diag unit has a sticker
4Mar.  I have never called my CM15A flawless
as you suggested. It does, in fact, work
exactly as I have reported.  That can change,
but as of this writing, it IS a fact !
regards,
SteveRF
Title: Re: My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly
Post by: SteveRF on April 24, 2005, 08:14:45 PM
Scotty,  I really do agree with you.
My first unit was a dismal failure... I still
have it but it functions as a X10Dispatch
unit only. It does a good job at that.. It
cannot run the modules, timers..etc.. I
didn't lose time like so many reported but
mine would just stop, start, was unreliable
etc .. Then the diag unit came and with the
exception of a couple of minor glitches and
updates, it has worked fairly well 24/7 since
7 Mar.  I complained every day until they
swapped it out.  It may quit tomorrow so I am
not 100% convinced and I know of many
shortcomings.  So, bottom line:  I do agree
..It is flawed !
regards,
StevRF
Title: Re: My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly
Post by: Helpful hints on April 24, 2005, 08:15:19 PM
SteveRf:  Don't flatter yourself, there are
no personal or of any other kind
of “attacks”.   All that I and others are
pointing out are the incongruities in logic
and feasibility in what you publish on this
forum.  Please, step back, be objective, and
analyse.
Title: Re: My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly
Post by: Observer on April 24, 2005, 08:21:52 PM
SteveRF:  What is the batch number of the
CM15A which you claim is working falwlessly
to your requirements if not the "04J44"?
Title: Re: My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly
Post by: SteveRF on April 24, 2005, 08:51:19 PM
Observer,
Both units have the sticker "04J44".
The diag unit has an additional sticker
"4Mar".  Both have the same FCC ID numbers.
The only one that works "OK" with a program
loaded is the diag unit.
regards,
SteveRF
Title: Re: My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly
Post by: Observer on April 24, 2005, 09:07:55 PM
 
SteveRF:  Thanks for the clarification.  So
you potentially have an "out of production
special unit" that works and you have been
reacting to anyone who complains about their
standard issue production unit as a
detractor.  Not very fair or analytical.  I
believe that you have unfairly admonished
those who had the courage to speak up about
CM15A problems and potentially stifled the
improvement rate (and benefit to the
customer base) on the CM15A . . . No tears
just a nice apology will do.
Title: Re: My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly
Post by: SteveRF on April 24, 2005, 09:40:26 PM
Observer, Big Smile...
I am not sure why you would call it an "out
of production special unit". There was
another forum user that had the same number
on their diag unit so I am thinking that my
unit is simply pre-05C10.  In any case it was
sent out around 4 Mar and I have no knowledge
of it being any different than any other with
the same marking.  I only report the facts
pertaining to this unit and the flaws that I
can recognize.  The unit performs exactly as
I report, including the flaws which I have
reported to X10 and this forum.  All of our
opinions have value, including yours.  My
preference is to have a reliable unit and to
keep reporting the flaws that I identify in
my unit.  If something does not work I intend
to say something about it but if it does
function in my unit I will say that also.
Hopefully, X10 will listen to all of our
comments and design a more reliable and
robust unit.  I bet they are already doing
just that.  Have a good evening and smile,
life is short.
regards,
SteveRF    
Title: Re: My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly
Post by: Observer on April 24, 2005, 09:59:07 PM
Steve Rf:  That was the worst weasel worded
attempt to extricate oneself knowing the
deceit that has been committed.  You had to
have the assistance of a real inept
attorney – or a fool for a client.   You
told everyone on this forum that you had a
flawlessly working CM15A and now all this
backpedaling!   For shame for shame. . .
you better get X10 to start erasing all the
crap you laid on this forum because its
catching up with you. :-)
Title: Re: My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly
Post by: Helpful Hints on April 24, 2005, 10:31:33 PM
SteveRF:  I Agree with Observer simply come
clean and lay out the facts.
Title: Re: My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly
Post by: carmine pacifico on April 24, 2005, 10:37:15 PM
I have read the Pcmag review( thanks to Ken
Miller link), I wish I had looked at the
reviews ( user reviews) before wasting my
time with this piece of junk.
To X10 crusaders:
SteveRF and Jess, you still have a change
to add you own review, I am surprised you
have missed this opportunity to defend this
great  product.

Read the article in full, including user
reviews
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1677331
,00.asp
Title: Re: My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly
Post by: Observer on April 24, 2005, 10:46:26 PM
And there you have it folks.  Jess, SteveRF,
et al
Title: Re: My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly
Post by: dan on April 25, 2005, 08:44:06 AM
I relied on PC Magazines review before
purchasing the CM15A (big mistake).  It
didn't take long after recieving this
equipment that I found out I had been
taken.  Shame on PC Magazine for not
honestly testing before reviewing and shame
on X10 for selling equipment that wasn't
even close to being ready for production (I
think the Attorney General needs to
investigate for fraud...and was PC Magazine
in on it???).  SteveRF, I think you need to
admit the King isn't wearing any clothes.
Jess and Martin, I think you guys work for
X10...or is it PC Magazine?...I guess there
is no way of knowing for certain.
Title: Re: My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly
Post by: carmine pacifico on April 25, 2005, 09:51:36 AM
After reading the potentially bribed Pcmag
review, I decided to investigate further
into the so called  great reviews from
other sources, they are so similar it
appears to be written by the same peoples;
in some cases there is a disclaimer by the
publication source regarding accuracy   of
the information. It’s nothing more than a
scam, and probably the crusaders supporting
this junk are in it.
Not even used car salesmans is so
dishonest.
Title: Re: My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly
Post by: Helpful Hints on April 25, 2005, 12:02:33 PM
Below is a quote from PC Magazine Link =
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1677331,
00.asp
PC Magazine
X10 ActiveHome Professional
REVIEW DATE:  11.02.04

“The universal remote can work not only your
X10 devices but also your home entertainment
center, and the keychain can turn two lights
on or off within 100 feet.”

How many CM15A users get that with their
Keychain RF?
How about 1/2 of that 50 feet?
How about 1/2 of 1/2 25 feet?
How about any feet?
Title: Re: My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly
Post by: Helpful Hints on April 25, 2005, 12:24:37 PM
Here is what the X10 company said:
"X10 Pro   4/22/2005 01:59 PM
We do not feel that there is fundamental
hardware RF problem that we need to fix. I
do  know that individual users have had
problems,  and I'm not denying that."

Title: Re: My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly
Post by: X10 Pro on April 25, 2005, 12:52:26 PM
This is an open forum, but I'm getting pretty
tired of the personal attacks/insults from
Observer/Helpful Hints/One Who is Watching
(all the same person). Please, if you're
going to ask people questions, don't attack
them for answering honestly.

The fact is the AHP and the CM15A work for
many of our customers. There are also
customers who have had problems, can't get
the product to work to their satisfaction, or
find it doesn't do everything they want it to
do. We do our best to help in those
situations. But, just because someone says
the product works for them doesn't make them
a liar.

In any case, I'd like to see less insults and
arguing over posting content, and more actual
content. You guys have a lot X10 experience,
and it would be a shame to have people not
use these forums because they've turned into
nothing but flame wars.
Title: Re: My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly
Post by: Helpful Hints on April 25, 2005, 01:37:21 PM
X10 Pro:

It is my understanding that this is a
AHP/CM15A user/customer forum dedicated to
providing information so X10 will fix the
product defects and then possibly improve
its functionality based on user/customer
input.  I am hard pressed as to how any
technical discussion has merit if it is not
put under pear scrutiny.   And we have done
just that.  If X10 wants testimonials than
call it an "X10 Pep Rally" not a forum.
As long as you are naming aliases lets not
be one sided and attack your contributing
customers while omitting the active
crusaders who specialize in off-subject
distractions and cheap shot remarks and
provide questionable testimonials.

We the customers would like more solutions
and direct responses with less excuses and
ineffective work arounds.
Title: Re: My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly
Post by: SteveRF on April 25, 2005, 02:36:44 PM
X10 Pro,
Are you still considering my "status report
error" that we discussed last week ?
re:  I see no change in status when macro,
switch or palmpad is used to trigger a flag
set/clear macro.
You may not remember with all of the
different threads but I was having what
appeared to be a report error.  The flags
were actually working because my 11pm dim
macro works and uses flags.  I was wondering
if this error is still just my unit ?  04j44
4Mar.

SteveRF
Title: Re: My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly
Post by: SteveRF on April 25, 2005, 02:38:12 PM
X10 Pro,
BTW... I got the server error too...
I had to "back" out of the thread to prevent
duplicates.

SteveRF
Title: Re: My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly
Post by: X10 Pro on April 25, 2005, 02:47:07 PM
SteveRF: We're still looking at the problem, yes.
Title: Re: My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly
Post by: Helpful Hints on April 26, 2005, 01:57:20 AM
Helpful Hints: I am really troubled and
confused by such diversity of performance
claims.  I have never seen such diversity
for one product!  My experience certainly
has been less than satisfactory with the
manufacturer and the product.  In fact quite
disappointing in that the CM15A couldn’t
support my existing configuration and with a
slight expansion it has become a real
burden.   Maybe some of the more successful
users or X10 Pro can offer some
suggestions.  Here is my configuration:
PC P4 2.4GHz  1GB RAM  XP Pro SP2
AHP/CM15A  (04J44  P10792E  ROM w/keyed
power plug  then 05C10  P10792M ROM w/non-
keyed power plug) started with AHP Version
3.175 and updated every time with the latest
including iWitness Beta and  beyond  current
version 3.186.  Never had a problem with
updating and having AHP come up and run.
Never did the “popular 8 step battery
removal reset”.  Just had a lot of bugs (50+
reported to X10) and the poor RF range.  X10
system is comprised of 30 Modules, 20
Macros, 6 Timers,  6 Motion Sensors, 20 RF
remotes.  Both the first and second units
were never sufficiently reliable to run
unattended.  Corrective action was required
daily.  I am running a real application not
a test or experiment and so the "rate of
product fix" is very troublesome.  I need to
get this fixed ASAP or find an alternative
that works. The wife is very unhappy.

Title: Re: My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly
Post by: tcassio on April 26, 2005, 06:43:59 AM
H.H,
My way of thinking is this.  Most X10 users
have a considerable amount of money
invested in X10 equipment aside from the
CM15A. You mention that you have

"X10  system is comprised of 30 Modules,
20  Macros, 6 Timers,  6 Motion Sensors, 20
RF  remotes"  as many others do also.

I to have alot of X10 stuff.  The CM15A is
only worth $50 and in my case another $50
for the Smartmacros pkg.

My solution was to spend another $100 on a
unit that works so I could use all the
other X10 equipment that I have and have
peice of mind.

Unfortunatly, I purchased the CM15A as part
of the $150 package they were selling, and
the will not refund my money without me
pulling out all of my wall switches and
sending back all that came with the pkg.
Very smart marketing on X10's part.  There
for I have to eat the $100 on equipment and
software that does not work reliably or as
advertised.

I hope others adopt this solution, and pass
along the word about all the short commings
of the CM15A to others, and maybe X10's
bottom line will be affected as that seems
all they understand.

T.
Title: Re: My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly
Post by: carmine pacifico on April 26, 2005, 10:53:01 AM
I all fairness, other than  the CM15a and
AHP, other products are working Ok, for the
price. I purchased the CM15a stand alone,
just in case I had to return; smart macros
came with 2 motion detectors, either way
there is no loss, the 2 motion are worth
$50, it is a cleaver marketing and it
works. If you add all the usable product in
the “Ultimate system” your loss if you
choose not to return it is less than $50,
X10 will take AHP kits back regardless on
how long you had it.
By now many people are aware of AHP and
CM15a defects, if X10 wants to stay in
business they need to fix it; their patent
has expired long ago, so any one can make
X10 product. The 1132CU + V572AB is a great
working combination, but it’s still short
of an RF transmitter, so I can see why so
many people are willing to wait and suffer,
the true alternative is very costly.
Lowest cost AHP+CM15a equivalent: 1132CU +
V572a + Home Control Assistant Plus(user
friendly PC software) + All house Code
Transmitter(I am not sure if one exist).
I agree with X10 pro, let’s keep this forum
more friendly, I do not believe that some
people are deliberating choose to insult
others, email it’s a wonderful technology,
but it’s very impersonal, does not convey
feelings, and can be easily misunderstood.
Let’s not forget that the moderator of this
forum “X10 Pro” is a person that must
follow company guide lines, it would be
nice if he could tell us the truth, but I
am sure it’s not up to him.
Title: Re: My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly
Post by: martin on April 26, 2005, 11:22:11 AM
Carmine,

Excellent recap, thanks!
Title: Re: My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly
Post by: Helpful Hints on April 26, 2005, 12:29:44 PM
Tcassio and Carmine are right on.  Its been
a nice having some objective discourse and
technical information exchange although it
could be better we take what is.  We must
also take care to respect our fellow persons
yet remember to hold them accountable for
their actions since they exercise free
will.  One can’t justify harm to someone due
to duress from others.  We all have a free
will and are not robots.

Tcassio, I believe you have very
articulately outlined their scam.  Others
should be grateful to you for your insight
and courage.

Carmine,  I agree that X10 modules have been
quite satisfactory but their Applications
such as AHP, MultiView, XrayVision,
Firecracker, etc. (look at the X10 forums)
have many bugs that are known and not fixed
for quite some time now.  From my experience
their support has been abysmal yet somewhat
improved for AHP because of this forum.   I
believe that X10 does not deliver quality
software.  I did a bit of research the
SmartHome Manager was released March, 2004,
seven months later was their last update and
the users I have inquired with say it is
solid.   AHP/CM15A was released in August
2004, and about 8 months later what have
we?  So although I would like to see the
product reach a level of reliability and
performance as advertised I don’t see any
previous patterns to support that.  I agree
lets move on to what works for each of us.

Wonder how long this thread stays up. :-\
Title: Re: My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly
Post by: dave w on April 26, 2005, 01:14:56 PM
X10 Pro
On 4/24/05 "Observer" said he replaced his
CM15A with a 1132CUP and "Life is good".

If "Observer/Helpful Hints/One Who is
Watching"  is all the same person, then
there is a hidden agenda and it is not to
help other forum members or discuss issues.
In my opinion "Observer/Helpful Hints/One
Who is Watching"  credibility is now zip,
zero.
Title: Re: My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly
Post by: Helpful Hints on April 26, 2005, 02:04:06 PM
Dave W:  I sincerly urge you to be sure of
your information before you start making
assumtions and declarations.
Title: Re: My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly
Post by: tcassio on April 26, 2005, 02:17:43 PM
Dave W.,
Respectfully, I don't know what other
peoples agenda is in this forum, I cannot
speak for them.  I to have switched to the
1132 CU and life is good.  However in the
past 7 weeks I have spent about $700 on X10
equipment and am happy with it, with the
exceoption if the CM15A and the
AHP/Smartmacros software.  Even though I am
using the 1132CU, I have paid for a CM15A
and the software mentioned above and this
entitles me to have a working product, to
voice my opinion about said product, and to
seek technical support for said product.  I
am aware that there are some people having
success  with there product, and thats
great.  I also see that there are alot of
people who are having severe problems (me
included) with it.  What I have a problem
with is the way X10 is dealing with thoes
having problems.  I have received a
replacement CM15A (not diagnostic unit) and
it was worse than the original one.  I have
posted several problems here and only a few
(it seems the easy problems) recieved
answers.  I applaud X10 Pro for the
difficult job he has, but how come I and
others have never been offered a diagnostic
unit, if this unit seems to work so well.
If I were in his position I would want to
make as many people happy as possible.
Especially thoes who spend money. X10
offered to refund my money for the Package
I purchased, but that means I would have to
remove 8 wall switches from the wall to get
my money back, how sleezy is that.  Well I
guess I am not going away since I am forced
to keep the CM15A, so they might as well be
prepared to make me happy.
Respectfully,
Tony Cassio
Title: Re: My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly
Post by: carmine pacifico on April 26, 2005, 03:09:19 PM
Out all people in this forum I am curious
on how many are actually measuring the PLC
signals; a phase coupler is a must , but I
have noticed many peoples are purchasing
signal booster( or repeater) , filters; do
you actually purchase and hope for the
best ? or use meter or Scope to find the
source of the problem first.
I know for experience that if motion
detectors are never triggered to close to
one another, and dim/bright sequence are
avoided the CM15a works reasonably well; by
reading other posts, the peoples that are
having good luck, are using motion
detection very sparingly and probably no
fancy dimming sequences.
On a PLC system they are many source of
noises; every body is familiar with some
TV’s, UPS etc requiring filters; I used to
use a scope, lately I use a low cost X10
signal meter from Elk products; while back
I started to have some signal loss on some
circuits, I though my old panel mounted
phase coupler/blocker was failing, it
turned out to be my new white LED night
light, their capacitive power supply
actually attenuate the signal by more than
50%, few of these night light and my X10
signal was less than 100mv in some
circuits. In my case only one UPS caused
signal losses (not longer in use), TV and
other UPS and computers are fine.
Title: Re: My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly
Post by: SteveRF on April 26, 2005, 04:29:15 PM
Carmine,
I doubt hardly anyone is using scopes (for
X10 troubleshooting) and very few go as far
as getting a X10 power meter.
Interesting comment about the LED night
lights... Those items had not entered my mind
as a source of noise.. I have several aroudn
the house.  Good Point !
SteveRF
Title: Re: My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly
Post by: doug on April 27, 2005, 10:21:21 AM
After struggeling with my CM15a for many
weeks I put it in "The Circular File" at the
end of last year and put my CM11a back in
service.  However the CM11a did not recognize
the time change this spring so I hooked it to
the computer and reset the clock.  All dusk
and dawn timers failed, looks like there is a
software bug in that Dusk and Dawn are
interchanged!!  Looking at these forums I
found glowing reports of the 1132CU so I
downloaded the manual and found that to get
any conditionals, even weekend options, I
would have to have to purchase the "Pro"
software!!!  I also noticed that you could
set a delay between the commands, which may
be needed if you had repeaters in your system.
The CM15a "failed" by turning on modules that
were not included in the macros and I had
already determined that including delays
would fix this but had not gone through all
macros systematically to try this.  My dud
CM11a forced me to recover the CM15a and try
it again.  Though it has only been running
for about 48hrs but the problems with
unwanted modules turning on have gone away
with the latest software.  This is good, I
hope nothing else comes out of the woodwork
in the next few days (when was it fixed?).
I now have a couple of cosmetic nit picks: on
the activity monitor screen, the version
number displayed on the bottom right is
truncated; clicking on the Active Home logo
on the top of the screen indicates there is
an update available even though the system is
up to date.
I think my faith in X10 is comming back, Doug
Title: Re: My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly
Post by: jimsnorton on March 06, 2007, 05:31:39 PM
So, here it is 2 years later & the problems are still immense. I was 'enjoying' the bickering going on, they brought me back 2 years when I first got my CM15. Within hours of replacing my CM11 I was reinstalling it. The AHP is so bad that I couldn't get it to do the simplest things. I've used X10 stuff since they FIRST came out. Oh, they weren't called X10 then, they were "BSR" & SEARS & Radio Shack, and they all worked! It wasn't until X10 first sold the CM11 when crap started to become unreliable. The old unit CP900 (or something to that affect) was bullet proof. X10 should have begun with adding functionality to that unit. Instead they forged ahead with a new philosophy, brave, but then they failed miserably with the AHP. The CM11 had it's problems, but nothing compared the the CM15. I could go on & on, but nothing comes of it. I consider this & emails to their trouble shooting department simply a forum to vent one's frustrations.
I've vented!!!
Title: Re: My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly
Post by: HA Dave on March 06, 2007, 07:48:48 PM
I had bought a CM11 I guess about three years ago..... I wasn't impressed, I set it aside.

In November, I read about BXVC (http://www.x10community.com/forums/index.php?topic=9918.0) here on this forum. I wanted BXVC (http://www.x10community.com/forums/index.php?topic=9918.0) but didn't want AHP. I bit-the-bullet and bought AHP (the CM15A).

At first the AHP was a nightmare! I found the thread Project to Increase Range of the CM15A (http://www.x10community.com/forums/index.php?topic=9470.0). I performed an antenna mod, and I also installed a phase coupler. It was worth it..... My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly.
Title: Re: My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly
Post by: Mavrik on March 11, 2007, 01:24:03 PM
Well Dave_x10_L you are one of the few that have a working unit.

I have yet to get my CM15A and AHP software to work properly. I was forced to re-install my CM11A as well.

People, don't buy the CM15A and AHP, you WILL regret it.
Title: Re: My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly
Post by: HA Dave on March 11, 2007, 07:42:36 PM
Quote from: Mavrik on March 11, 2007, 01:24:03 PM
Well Dave_x10_L you are one of the few that have a working unit.

Mavrik, sorry to hear (read) your having problems. I have more than a little bit of X10.... and to be honest none set-up as easy as X10 advertises it would. So I think... I understand your frustrations.

Quote from: Mavrik on March 11, 2007, 01:24:03 PM

I have yet to get my CM15A and AHP software to work properly. I was forced to re-install my CM11A as well.


So .... since you re-installed your CM11A.... your obviously not new to X10. I am NOT an AHP expert, but if you describe your set-up and your problems, I am sure some of the experienced AHP users will jump in with helpful advice. I know the unit works!
Title: Re: My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly
Post by: Don N on March 11, 2007, 08:05:50 PM
For those poor soles that elect to hi-jack threads and bash the volunteers on this forum , x10 support, X10 products because their stuff doesn't work... I have a solution.  If you truely want it to work, let us know what you have and what you are trying to do and someone will likely provide you with a solution.  Your cost of X10 equipment: $$$$$, Your level of frustration: HIGH,  Free help from Forum Volunteers: PRICELESS!!!!!   Have a good day.
Title: Re: My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly
Post by: the other steve on March 12, 2007, 12:29:26 AM
My process:


It all works very well, with poor range on the rf receiver (unmodified) the biggest problem.  (I am even using the dreaded HCA02.)

Simple story, eh?  Except for the do-it-yourself flavor of using X-10 and X-10 support - expected from the old days.  Why, when I was young...

Without the forum, it would be impossible.

Next:   :D smileys ;D and fancy fonts !

Steve


[TTA Edit: Didn't want the other steve to feel left out! ;) Don't forget to do your INTROS!]
Title: Re: My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly
Post by: teez67f on March 16, 2007, 03:11:17 PM
>:( :-\ :'( ;) :o ;D ::) 8)

That's 360 from DEC 2006; ready to throw it all out the window and jump to Insteon/Zwave (going to anyhow but keeping xnutcase stuff as well).

I've been trying to figure out why the macros triggered by DS10A & MS10A work even with my PC closed!!  Yeah thats right closed!! Contacted X-10 but never got an answer from them as to why. But other than that, they have always responded (had to put that in).

It is working great and almost instant (no lag) response.  Press credit card remotes or stickies and poof, it works. The only thing left for me to figure out (and when I have time, will post for help in proper section), is that once in every 10-15 macro triggers, it causes collisions, depending on amount of DS or MS triggered.

Going to ask the X-10 Pros like TTA, puck, bill ,tuiceman, not in any particular order, for their feedback.


But, other than that, it is almost 100% from zero out the door in December. May I dare say happy with my X-10? Yes much happy. Note got a whole of help (actually we helped each other from marineau) and took a whole lot of cussing and putzing. But it was worth it!

To all that are ready to give it all up, save your money and take your time cause it does work. (Need patience and this forum).

[Note use homemail@videotron.ca for emails since never almost check my Hotmail.]

teez67f

P.S. Sorry TTA, still don't log in (bad habit) unless have something to say. Its my momma's fault you know. ;D


[TTA Edit: Formatted and added WHITESPACE (and SPACES! ;) ) for readability.  Certainly nice to read POSITIVE feedback! Did you do your INTRO yet??]
Title: Re: My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly
Post by: bcondemi on March 19, 2007, 10:37:46 AM

I then did LOTS of reading when I discovered this forum.


It took me several hours to do but well worth it. Every light and module work flawlessly.

My next item to tackle is the 'MyHouse' online connection. I was not able to register the software (AHP and plugins) until one day 2 weeks ago when it just did (without changing any computer or hardware configuration). I still can't connect to 'Myhouse' however and Tech Support says its my router (even though I don't have one).

I guess I should be happy enough that the system works itself and all that extra stuff will eventually work.

BC


[TTA Edit: Formatted and added WHITESPACE for readabiliity and emphasis. THREE positive posts in a row!?!  What's going on? :o :D Nice write-up - I also gave you a Helpful. :) ]
Title: Re: My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly
Post by: TakeTheActive on March 19, 2007, 06:52:27 PM
Quote from: jimsnorton on March 06, 2007, 05:31:39 PM

So, here it is 2 years later & the problems are still immense. I was 'enjoying' the bickering going on, they brought me back 2 years when I first got my CM15. Within hours of replacing my CM11 I was reinstalling it. The AHP is so bad that I couldn't get it to do the simplest things...

WAF Factor of Upgrade From CM11A to CM15A is *VERY* LOW - (P.S. Me Too!)  (Read 5537 times) (http://www.x10community.com/forums/index.php?topic=9731.msg57338#msg57338)
;)
Title: Re: My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly
Post by: 500zz on January 05, 2008, 10:59:47 PM
I have been using x10 for 25 years. The earlier MS DOS based products and later the CM11 and now the AHP. I have 50 modules in my home.  I even had the stand alone GE unit. I also have 2 signal bridges and about 10 noise filters and a smarthome ampl.. The number of noisy power supplies is just amazing. You get a new appliance and the next thing you know you have x10 problems - track it down and fix with a noise filter. I tried the AHP when it first came out with poor results - my son has that unit(he used it in a simple fashion). I bought a new one last week from x10 and installed it on a clean Vista ultimate installation. So far very good results. I did not try to install the CM11 on Vista as it had problems with XP. Over the years line noise has caused most of my problems. Some very expensive high-end appliances have dirty noisy power supplies and many cheap are clean - I can't find a pattern. Generally I am pleased. I do wish x10 would give us a copy of the software rather than the server install.

Considering the prices on Ebay X10 is a bargain - not too long ago this stuff was very expensive. My biggest improvements came from the signal bridges(one at the main box and the other at the cooking range - I finally put the one in the elec main box - a few days later I removed the stove bridge - I put it back as it made a difference and I do not know why -  and noise filters - the amp provided a general improvement and added stability.

I have many macros and complicated commands.
Title: Re: My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly
Post by: alexo1us on January 27, 2009, 04:07:25 PM
Wow what a thread I must say this one has provided me several moments of smiles and chuckles both from related stuff and unrelated.
I'm gonna be long winded here I suspect as I find or get other ideas during the writing hopfully I can keep it flowing.

first on topic I never had a CM11A and not sure of how it operates but I can say I never expected this not to be run from a PC so maybe I have been better off then most I will have to agree the range as is is very dismal to say the least which I should add has been my only real problem so far except when doing an experiment due to some comments here running the CM15A with out the PC.
It failed no surprise there, simple switching controls can run from device in a pinch I.E the PC goes down but forget anything else. the hardware is not physically capable to handle the firmware and space required. to store and run the all the features available with AHP I suspect it was never intended to be run strictly from the device and that was confirmed  (sort of) in another post.

But so far it has worked as expected for me did I have to tinker for sure but most of my problems came from my inexperience with the software once you get the programing right it has not failed yes it has only been a few days but I can see how it works
but I run mine from the PC all the time So if you want it to work right first your need to understand the difference.
the old software was designed to be down loaded to the device which was actually designed for.
the CM15A although They did try to make like the original in the start. but it grew in order to give us what we asked for  it will required the use of a PC making the CM15A just a interface between the PC and X10 Hardware is works fine for me.

Now on the the the other stuff boards as this are notorious for personal attacks doesn't mean they should be allowed NO!!!!!!
but we must also keep in mind as mentioned before that when coming in in the first place chances are your frustration level is high this tends to bring out the best in people (Not) and we all need to take a breath sometimes before we spew.

Having said this the post here Generally follow the try and help rule but we must keep in mind that one users fix may or maynot work for you Your location is not the same so what make you think it will work the same everywhere it will not.
If you want to run it all from the device then your best option is to go back to the CM11A and AH and forget all about the extras you'll be missing out on but if all the bells and whistles are what you want then you need to run it from the PC.
Hopfully X10 will design a version starting out for the PC using the CM15A or a newer version as only an interface I suspect we find it a more user friendly and interact with other systems better........

X10 gave us the stuff to start with and we need to take it from there

This is a kit and as a kit sometimes it just doesn't go as expected when you try to make changes doesn't mean the stuff is defective. Although (the RANGE) guy's this  is a defect especially when like mine is just now a wire taped to the out side the antenna to make it get better reception then just in the same room the wire increased my range to the inside of the house.  It doesn't work as advertised for this.
Start making them with a screw on antenna at least. this will give options that you could even sell since money is your deciding factor.
But i want the first two free for the idea. remember guys saw it here first...... HAR HAR

I will be doing allot of playing which means screw up something that works from time to time it will not be X10 or anyone else fault.
just as I'm sure there will be Lot's of environmental issues to deal with.
as for these things being bad or flaky I'm sure by now they have sold millions and I could think the about 10 to 15 percent ether never get installed or get taken out
about 2 percent which would include us come here and bitch and complain and get info to help us make it work or about how it doesn't work how we got ripped off. the real problem is your play.
which brings me to the majority of buyers the ones who buy a Kit put it together follow the simple instructions or call the help desk for interpretation of instruction's then after it works they leave it alone. for them it works as expected and they are happy. and we'll never know because they do not come here. they have no reason to.
OK so now I'm finished.
let the flames fly I can take it 

just my 2 cents
Alex
Title: Re: My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly
Post by: Dan Lawrence on April 04, 2009, 08:24:34 PM
To add to this two year thread, its now April 4, 2009 and my AHP/CM15A is working fine with ZERO problems.  Timers work when they are scheduled and my single keypress macro works the way it was setup.
Title: Re: My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly
Post by: bitman on April 04, 2009, 10:13:23 PM
I wound 3 ft of solid wire and wrapped it around the CM15's antenna per DAVE_X10's prescription.

My CM15A/AHP is now working flawlessly.

I had to do that Due North West thing once before but not in a long long while.

 >!
 
Title: Re: My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly
Post by: HA Dave on April 04, 2009, 11:28:55 PM
Quote from: Dave_x10_L on March 06, 2007, 07:48:48 PM
.... It was worth it..... My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly.

Yep... I can say the same! (but I did pick-up a spare... just in case).
Title: Re: My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly
Post by: Jsnlong on April 05, 2009, 11:49:40 AM
I wold say mine works 99.9% of the time. The 1% is due to the problem I have with it asking me to download timers and macros even if I have not done anything to the CM15 or my setup. But I run a computer hooked to it all the time and can see when it pops up and just click download.


But Still 99.9% is awesome
Title: Re: My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly
Post by: ttrolinger on July 20, 2009, 12:35:10 PM
My CM15A is also working ok. It did take trial and error to get the macro's working correctly. I never exactly pinpointed the problem, but it seem to be related to the multiple RF transceiver modules I need, duplicating the RF commands. I think that was causing the same macro in the CM15A to be launched more than once at the same time. I have corrected that issue by strategically placing the RF transceiver modules just out of range of each other and extending the CM15A antenna with a coat hanger. Not a very elegant solution to say the least but it all works in my case.
There is one ongoing issue that I wish would get fixed. When a macro runs in CM15A and turns on or off X10 devices, I do not get notifications through the SDK interface. Additionally, the SDK interface is suppose to “remember” the status of each X10 device, but that doesn’t work either. The combination of these two problems keeps my home automation software from “Knowing” the status of all my X10 devices. Considering X10 is a “one way” communication in most cases, it would seem this would be a important feature correct. Hopefully, I have missed something, someone will read this and have a solution to this issue.

I, like many of you, purchase X10 devices because they are relatively inexpensive in comparison to the new advanced technologies like ZWave, Insteon and etc. Over time those new technologies will come down in price. For now, I am willing to deal with some of the X10 technical deficiencies for the price point but that will certainly change if X10 doesn’t work some of these nagging technical issues that get reported time and time again.
TJ
Title: Re: My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly
Post by: HA Dave on July 20, 2009, 06:30:20 PM
Quote from: ttrolinger on July 20, 2009, 12:35:10 PM
I, like many of you, purchase X10 devices because they are relatively inexpensive in comparison to the new advanced technologies like ZWave, Insteon and etc. Over time those new technologies will come down in price. For now, I am willing to deal with some of the X10 technical deficiencies for the price point but that will certainly change if X10 doesn’t work some of these nagging technical issues that get reported time and time again.

You should try playing golf!

Not that playing golf will help your X10 setup... it won't. But after a few years you will realize that those new advanced technologies used in clubs and training aides that come... and GO with the seasons are much like the new advanced technologies in Home Automation.

The "trick" with any communications system... phone, radio, TV... wired or wireless is dependability and reliability. Home Automation isn't any different. It isn't really any more or less troublesome or difficult to make X10 completely reliable than any other system. Same as with golf the "trick" is... practice the basics.
Title: Re: My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly
Post by: fromnaija on July 20, 2009, 07:13:25 PM
I got mine working flawlessly from the get-go.  I would say finding this forum before I purchased my first module really helped!
I was actually searching for a home security system, that's how I got hooked on X10.

Now, this is what I did to have a flawless system.  I modified the antenna on my CM15A using suggestions found on this forum.  I bought smarthome noise filters for all of the outlets as well as the coupler/repeater for my Dryer outlet.

My installation works flawlessly.  I have completed the security system installation as well as automate all my lights.  I have lights that are operated by motion sensors, there are some on timers and yet others are operated by macros.  More importantly my wife is so pleased with the sytem - especially as she does not have to walk into any dark room in the house.

MyHouseOnline works without any issue.  >!

Next step is to set up my cameras.  I am still reading through the forum on all the tricks with that.

The ONLY problem I have right now is getting Tuicemen's software to run on my Vista x64 computer.  B:(
Title: Re: My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly
Post by: Dan Lawrence on July 20, 2009, 09:23:27 PM
My current AHP/CM15A has been working flawlessly, except for two brief periods when X10 put out flawed versions of AHP, version 3.203 and 3.236 (which cannot be obtained though AHP's upgrade link only though the X10 Software Repository), but X10 is it sending out to new purchasers of AHP.) That is just plain stupid as though this Forum it's well known and we know some of the "suits" do read it.

Timers execute flawlessly and my single keypress macro (which turns off  houselights on five different housecodes) works every time it's executed.

I've had X10 since the 1980's (started with a CP290 and DOS software), moved to Active Home and the CM11A in the mid 90's and AHP in 2005
Title: Re: My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly
Post by: Bill59 on July 21, 2009, 07:05:03 AM
Antenna modification, 2kv .1uf cap, Xtb, bulletproof!!!!
Title: Re: My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly
Post by: ttrolinger on July 21, 2009, 02:27:32 PM
Bill, can you elaborate a little more on this? Maybe a circuit diagram?
Thanks,
TJ
Title: Re: My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly
Post by: Bill59 on July 21, 2009, 03:54:50 PM
TJ, the antenna modification is on the forum not quite sure of the thread name but it's an antenna from another x-10 module (TM751maybe)?? I'm still a little new here too. I used an antenna from radio shack that is telescoping so you can try different lengths according to wave lengths. This antenna connects just like the one described on the other antenna mod thread. The capacitor is a 2kv rated, .1uf most likely used in larger RF power supplies. It's connected across the two phases in the breaker panel, also describe in many forums, and sometimes frowned upon by some.
The XTB is available on the web. JV digital,also widely talked about and highly regarded. To find in depth info look for any of these in the subject line. You know type in (for example) ".1uf capacitor phase coupler"  I hope this kind of helped.
Title: Re: My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly
Post by: ttrolinger on July 21, 2009, 04:06:39 PM
Bill, thanks for the reply, ahhh now I understand. So this is just a different antenna that is longer than the original. I am already doing that with a coat hanger. Not that pretty, but I don’t care because my CM15 is hidden in a wall anyway. I thought you were talking about some ingenious circuit that could be added to the CM15 to increase range.
In the past, I have also used a high voltage cap across the power line phases, but that proved to be not a great idea. On two tries, I smelled burning electronics and found the cap charred to a crisp. Since then I have purchased a active X10 coupler and installed it in the breaker panel. It has been WELL worth the $60.
TJ
Title: Re: My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly
Post by: Brian H on July 21, 2009, 04:10:42 PM
Yes the plain cap can sometimes not work out.
One should get one specifically designed and made for power line use. When I had one installed it had all kinds of agency ratings for Power Line Use. Now I have an ACT134 Repeater but shortly it will be replaced by Jeff's XBT-IIR
Title: Re: My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly
Post by: Bill59 on July 21, 2009, 04:36:12 PM
Guys, What was the voltage rating specifically? The original one I tried was rated for approximately 600vdc or 250 vac, which is real close to max volts. That one went poof!!! Then found the 2kv,and added a little fuse that is in-line with one leg. It came out of an old Xmas light string. So far so good! The thing about the antenna is it's adjustable to almost 3/4 wave length. Some times the best range is not exactly the length it should be. Small key chain remotes outside at 130ft. Not bad for a $5 antenna. Oh by the way the was cap was $3. Boy I'm cheap!!!
Title: Re: My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly
Post by: Brian H on July 21, 2009, 06:56:23 PM
If you have not looked at Jeff Volp's Troubleshooting Guides that are very informative.
One is on all kinds of couplers and repeaters.

http://jvde.us/x10_troubleshooting.htm

I believe the AC rated cap I used was 250 Volts AC but had markings indicating Power Line use.
Some have also added an 18 uh inductor in series with the .1uf cap to tune the coupler to 120 KHz the X10 power line frequency. Smarthome's coupler has the 18 uh inductor in theirs along with the .1 uf cap.
Title: Re: My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly
Post by: ttrolinger on July 21, 2009, 07:35:32 PM
You guys might want to check out the one I am using. In my case, it works great and now its not much more expensive than a couple high grade caps. I wish it was only $15 bucks when I bought it.
TJ

http://www.thex10shop.com//product/136119/X10-X-10-PRO-XPCR-Home-Automation-Coupler-Repeater-Booster_688482.html (http://www.thex10shop.com//product/136119/X10-X-10-PRO-XPCR-Home-Automation-Coupler-Repeater-Booster_688482.html)
Title: Re: My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly
Post by: rnorton888 on October 07, 2009, 06:51:30 PM

Well I have only had my system a couple weeks and at times I have wanted to through it through the window but I rent so that was out of the question.
I have my C15A plugged into the computer as I use Macros. Everything seems to be great for me. I even have some things going on like two vanguard cameras being recorded when the active eye detects movement and then it emails me the results.
I only have the security modules 5 and 4 lights connected to it but use daily automation so lights go off and on etc when I am not home and so far everything has worked great.
Down side the Range of the Security dialer really is not near 100 ft. I put a larger antenna on it and it helps but the range of the door/window and motion detectors suck for me.
Thanks
Randy
Title: Re: My CM15A/AHP is working flawlessly
Post by: babybearjs on April 10, 2013, 02:19:13 AM
You guys are funny!  my system works fine when I have the date on the PC set right.... Know I know why the light came on so early the other day!