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Title: Powerhorn SH10A
Post by: travis williams on October 11, 2004, 11:22:03 PM
Is it possible to turn the PowerHorn on via
Homeseer, Activehome or even via remote? Or
must it receive its command from the Security
Panel? I have the DS7000 Panel.
Title: Re: Powerhorn SH10A
Post by: trophy on October 12, 2004, 12:13:22 PM
it receives the commands from the ds7000.
That alrm is an enhancement to the quieter
indoor "alarm" contained within the ds7000.
Title: Re: Powerhorn SH10A
Post by: travis williams on October 12, 2004, 07:35:27 PM
I know what the function of the horn is meant
to be and I know that the DS7000 can activate
the alarm.

My question was, can you turn this horn on
via the PalmPad Remote or HomeSeer software
with a FireCracker Module.
Title: Re: Powerhorn SH10A
Post by: dick on October 13, 2004, 02:55:33 AM
I believe it responds to continuous "all
lights on", "all lights off" commands.
IOW, if you send alo,aloff,alo, aloff
several times it will sound as long as you
keep sending the on/off
Title: Re: Powerhorn SH10A
Post by: jim on October 13, 2004, 01:29:16 PM
How about the panic button? They sell " Panic
Buttons " here, and my remotes have the panic
feature also.

Jim..
Title: Re: Powerhorn SH10A
Post by: jim on October 13, 2004, 01:33:47 PM
Ignore my last post, I read your question wrong.

Yes, what Dick said works. Lights on, lights
off repeatedly will sound the power horn. It
stops once you stop.

Jim..
Title: Re: Powerhorn SH10A
Post by: Brian H on November 14, 2004, 07:07:45 PM
You have to sent a series of ON-OFF commands
on the units house and unit code. I believe
it is 4 cycles to trigger it. I have
triggered it's biger brother a PH508 with a
palm pad and rr501 tranceiver using the ON-
OFF buttons. Stops sounding about 4 seconds
after the last cycle
Title: Re: Powerhorn SH10A
Post by: Kenneth Herring on November 14, 2004, 09:26:03 PM
Use a POWER FLASH INTERFACE (PSC-01) to
trigger the PowerHorn. You can address the
PSC01 to whatever and then it has a selector
switch that has a setting for a repeating
on/off command that it will send as an X-10
powerline command.
Title: Re: Powerhorn SH10A
Post by: dax702 on December 12, 2007, 02:39:33 AM
http://kbase.x10.com/wiki/Making_a_PowerHorn_Macro

I think is actually wrong. I tried it just now and it should be appliance on, delay, appliance off...

I'm brand spankin' new to ActiveHome Pro.  Can someone explain what the trigger code is? How do I not confuse the trigger code with the module address?
Title: Re: Powerhorn SH10A
Post by: HA Dave on December 12, 2007, 07:56:26 PM
http://kbase.x10.com/wiki/Making_a_PowerHorn_Macro

I'm brand spankin' new to ActiveHome Pro.  Can someone explain what the trigger code is? How do I not confuse the trigger code with the module address?

Trigger code: The House/Unit code that tells a macro to execute.

Let's say we want an ActiveEye motion sensor to turn on (trigger) the powerhorn:

A motion sensor set to (House Code) A (and Unit code) 1.

A macro set to be "triggered" (execute it's events) when it receives (House/Unit code) A1. The macro will then turn ON H1 (lets say that what we set the Horn code to) delay 2 secs, then turn H1 OFF, ... then repeats that 4 time.

By having the A1 (motion sensor) trigger the (Power Horn H1)  we ...Build a Macro with a different Trigger Code than the PowerHorn's address (http://kbase.x10.com/wiki/Making_a_PowerHorn_Macro).
Title: Re: Powerhorn SH10A
Post by: dax702 on December 12, 2007, 08:08:10 PM
Unfortunately, I still don't understand.  Are you saying that every macro we write has to have it's own letter/number code and that its code has to be different from all the different modules that are plugged in throughout the house?
Title: Re: Powerhorn SH10A
Post by: HA Dave on December 12, 2007, 08:28:06 PM
Are you saying that every macro we write has to have it's own letter/number code and that its code has to be different from all the different modules that are plugged in throughout the house?

No. All I did was go in to detail to explain your (included) link.

Macros are "triggered". They can be triggered by time.. or by a House/Unit code. If... that same house/unit code is also executed within the macro... it would RE-trigger the macro. Thus causing a never-ending loop.
Title: Re: Powerhorn SH10A
Post by: dax702 on December 12, 2007, 08:36:18 PM
But that's the part I don't get.  How does a house/unit code trigger a macro? So far from what I can see, the only thing that makes the macro trigger, is when I press run macro on the screen. I'm totally lost here.  As I understand so far, the House/Unit codes, at least in my security system all have to have the same House Code and I can have 16 different modules on that house code. How can I use a house code of H if I'm only in one house? And again, how does a house/unit code make a macro run?
Title: Re: Powerhorn SH10A
Post by: HA Dave on December 12, 2007, 09:37:16 PM
But that's the part I don't get.  How does a house/unit code trigger a macro? So far from what I can see, the only thing that makes the macro trigger, is when I press run macro on the screen. I'm totally lost here. 

Ok. Lets start over.

What equipment/software are you using. What are you trying to accomplish. What house/unit codes are you using?
Title: Re: Powerhorn SH10A
Post by: dax702 on December 12, 2007, 09:48:48 PM
I bought the home security package that came with 10 door/window sensors, 2 of the white motion sensors, 2 motion detector/floodlights, two lamp modules, 3 power horn sirens and the security console. I also have the complete software package with all the plugins and USB controller.. The security console is on house code A and the three power horn sirens are on A3, the two lamp modules are on A1 & A2.  I do not yet have the floodlights hooked up until I get an electrician out here...

You know, honestly, I'm not even sure why I bought the software portion. The sales girl said I would need it I think in order to make the flood lights sound the console alarm and powerhorn sirens.. But I don't know..
Title: Re: Powerhorn SH10A
Post by: HA Dave on December 12, 2007, 10:59:03 PM
I also have the complete software package with all the plugins and USB controller.. ...........You know, honestly, I'm not even sure why I bought the software portion.

If by "all the plugins and USB controller" you mean the AHP (with the CM15A).... you have an awesome piece of home automation equipment there. Although... I can't think of any interesting ways to use it with the equipment you have.... thus far. Maybe someone else might.
Title: Re: Powerhorn SH10A
Post by: dax702 on December 12, 2007, 11:06:03 PM
yes, the activehome pro, onalert, myhouseonline, smart macros, the whole deal.. and yes, the usb interface too. I mainly bought the system because there have been a lot of burglaries in our neighborhood lately so I wanted to do something to protect the house better than not doing anything at all...I'm not sure that I even need the computer stuff, but maybe I do.
Title: Re: Powerhorn SH10A
Post by: HA Dave on December 13, 2007, 12:27:50 AM
.........I wanted to do something to protect the house better than not doing anything at all...

I think cameras can be a great deterent to break-in's.
Title: Re: Powerhorn SH10A
Post by: dax702 on December 13, 2007, 03:02:15 AM
really? I didn't think they would be simply because the guy can break the camera, or just see it and not BE seen by it...maybe I'm wrong on that?
Title: Re: Powerhorn SH10A
Post by: Brian H on December 13, 2007, 06:46:57 AM
The CM15A USB Interface and software is where the macros come into play. You can use a motion sensor or any X10 powerline signal to trigger the macro. Like your motion sensor
on lets say H1 can then cause a macro in the CM15A to send the House/Unit codes needed to turn on and off things or send the On/Off sequence to trigger a Powerhorn Siren Module.
Title: Re: Powerhorn SH10A
Post by: steven r on December 13, 2007, 11:21:23 AM
really? I didn't think they would be simply because the guy can break the camera, or just see it and not BE seen by it...maybe I'm wrong on that?
There are visible and hidden cameras. In a good video setup even if a camera is spotted and compromised, it most likely has already captured the potential burglar's picture and recorded it or even emailed it to you.
Any system can be compromised. The object is to reduce the odds that one will invade your house and steal from or injure you or your family. I'd much rather my $600 camera be damaged and me be still alive. I'll have video to pass on to the police.
Title: Re: Powerhorn SH10A
Post by: HA Dave on December 13, 2007, 04:13:46 PM
.............The object is to reduce the odds that one will invade your house and steal from or injure you or your family.

I give steven r a helpful for that one. Deterring a would be burglar is the way to go. I have even started a thread about keeping them (burglars) outside (http://www.x10community.com/forums/index.php?topic=13351.msg74400#msg74400).

There are many "lists" of known methods to prevent break-ins. Although alarm systems are high on the list... they are nether the beginning or the end to home security. Not only do I use cameras, to deter break-ins, I even announce it to trespassers. You can see a video of [that includes] the warning system at my Web Site (http://davesdomainonline.com/bvc/bvc.htm).
Title: Re: Powerhorn SH10A
Post by: dax702 on December 13, 2007, 05:41:20 PM
But for the camera to be effective, wouldn't you have to be recording on a tape somewhere 24 hours a day? I'm in a one story house and placed one motion detector in the dining room on the wall so it sees the big window in that room, plus it sees the front door and anyone coming down the hallway. So that seems to be working well, but yes that is if they're already inside.. I live in a community and all the houses are close together so there's always a lot of motion so it isn't practical to have a motion sensor outside the house set off the alarm because I think it'd be going off all the time with cars going by, people walking on the sidewalk, etc.... I have all the doors and windows covered with the door/window sensors. I'm thinking about also getting a glass break sensor for the big window and sliding glass door, but those are 3rd party and just sound at the source..Kind of hard to secure this kind of house.. In the x10 videos, they always show a big house that isn't close to other houses. I don't have a yard, either..