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🔌General Home Automation => Automating Your House => Topic started by: nklght on May 22, 2006, 02:36:51 AM
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I would like X-10 to show a comparable table or chart of specifications of comparable items. I am trying to figure out what the difference is between the different motion sensors. From what I learned from the X-10 website, they all do the same thing but have different costs. I know that certain motion sensors from alarm companies will not trigger if an item is under 80 pounds do any X-10 sensors operate the same. Besides the X-10 Pro modules which provide 2-way comunication, their are several modules provided by X-10 which do the same thing and vary in price. When shopping for a module, I am looking for an item that does what I need it to do, When two modules perform in the same manner and have different prices with no explanation to the difference, I will purchase the cheaper. I have noticed that some of the more costly units include a 2 year warranty instead of the standard 1 year. Just provide me with a chart so I can determine which Item will do what I need it to do.
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I would like X-10 to show a comparable table or chart of specifications of comparable items....
This is a great idea!
I'd like to see one for the cameras.
It's hard enough trying to scroll through all the different areas of the web site. A chart or even better the ability the select a few items for comparison would be helpful.
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Steven,
It is tough to decipher the X-10 website. They offer multiple items which will perform the same duty, yet no real difference is listed.
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...It is tough to decipher the X-10 website. They offer multiple items which will perform the same duty, yet no real difference is listed.
My point exactly.
Fortunately they have at least one new web designer (joined X10 in Jan) that seems to have a more practical and less flashy approach to site design. See this site. (http://www.x10community.com/forums/index.php?topic=8670.0)
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I have seen a comparison chart of X10 Motion Sensors. Only problem is it may have been on a third party automation related web site. There are differences between the sensors. Like adjustbale time of no motion before the off is sent and weather resistant or not.
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...There are differences between the sensors....
...and knowing these product differences before buying them leads to happier campers. :)
eg. I haven't bought a camera for my front porch in part because I'm not sure what flashy ad better meets my need.
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As I long time X10 user (from the DOS days), I also want to better product specs for X10's entire line. Much of my X-10 expertise has been OJT training. Buy it and install it, then use it and if someting goes awry, you either get help from another user or, if you're lucky, an X-10 dealer is near you can can help.
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Dan,
I have also used X-10 for quite some time, it did some amazing stuff without the need of an computer. Now AHP needs to run on an computer, and is still only availble to run options which were available wiithout an computer. Lead it to RadioShack to ruin a great thing remember Cue Cat.
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...Lead it to RadioShack to ruin a great thing remember Cue Cat.
I had forgotton about Cue Cat. Is that piece of hardware / software still in use?
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had forgotton about Cue Cat. Is that piece of hardware / software still in use?
Last time I tried to use mine, which was a year ago I was directed to a site that stated they were no longer in business.
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had forgotton about Cue Cat. Is that piece of hardware / software still in use?
Last time I tried to use mine, which was a year ago I was directed to a site that stated they were no longer in business.
For anyone that misses CueCatTM, try this UPC data base. (http://www.upcdatabase.com)
If you still have your CueCatTM scanner you can use it (Make sure you've uninstalled the CueCatTM software.) otherwise you'll have to type in the UPC. This guy keeps the data base as a hobby.
Hmm... Now where did I toss that CueCatTM?
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Here's your motion sensor comparison:
This page tells the differeence between ActiveEye, HawkEye, EagleEye, and Pro sensors.
Good page if they ever put equal effort into support they have put into advertising. ;)
http://www.activehomepro.com/sensors_compare.htm
Gimme a kudo "it was useful" if it tells you what you want to know!
I know I'll reference it!
Hawk & Pro are white; Eagle & Active are not.
Gizmo
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For anyone that misses CueCatTM, try this UPC data base. (http://www.upcdatabase.com)
If you still have your CueCatTM scanner you can use it (Make sure you've uninstalled the CueCatTM software.) otherwise you'll have to type in the UPC. This guy keeps the data base as a hobby.
Hmm... Now where did I toss that CueCatTM?
In my case, it's in the spare bedroom closet, probably very near the (still working) Timex Sinclair 1000 computer! :)
I suddenly feel very old. :-[
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Bill,
I have an Atari 800, a Commodore 64, and brown modules that say "BSR System X10" so you ain't the only one feelin old ;-)
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Bill,
I have an Atari 800, a Commodore 64, and brown modules that say "BSR System X10" so you ain't the only one feelin old ;-)
I miss my Atari 800 and the 1200XL (I really wanted the 1450XLD!) I still have a service manual (2 inch thick tome!) with the schematics for the 800 and the source-code for the ROMs! I'm sure it will come in handy some day :-[
The Commodore Vic 20 might even still work, but the C64 has a bad video chip. My wife made me give away all the Apple II, IIe and Apple III stuff. :'(
Sorry all, I think this went a bit off-topic. :-[
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As long as we're bragging about how old we are... ;)
...I have a BSR X10 timer that still works. I think I might of had to replace a diode or something in it once but it's outlasted several of my wall switches. I also beta tested a DOS based program to control the old CM11A. I can't remember the name of it but I seem to remember it could download odd/even day and dusk/dawn times to the CM11A. I think you had to sync once a week or so.
...And does anyone remember Prodigy?
...How about reading and posting to news groups with a computer terminal before the internet and personal computers were around?
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I remember Prodigy, as a matter of fact I think I just threw out the 5 1/4 setup floppies (in the original case) a couple years ago!
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...I just threw out the 5 1/4 setup floppies...
Ah yes the 5 1/4 floppies. I worked for a company that used 8" floppies. I remember tossing one Frisbee style and having it get stuck in a chain hanging from the warehouse once. Memories...
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I even once had a 300 baud external dial up modem. It was really high tech for it's time. You didn't even have to put the phone in a cradle at all. Just call the number you needed and flip the switch when you heard the connect tone.
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...I just threw out the 5 1/4 setup floppies...
Ah yes the 5 1/4 floppies. I worked for a company that used 8" floppies. I remember tossing one Frisbee style and having it get stuck in a chain hanging from the warehouse once. Memories...
Yes... I had a couple old CPM machines once. One had 4 8-inch floppy drives. The other had one disk-pack drive with big (something like 20-inch diameter) disks in a plastic case with a handle. You locked the disk into the drive drawer, closed it and waited for it to spin-up (sounded like a jet warming up for takeoff!) but hey, they stored a whopping 20 MEG!!! :o
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My first computer was a slide rule. I used that for many years before the advent of the first affordable electronic calculators.
I remember when a computer took up an entire room at one of the facilities I worked at.
Wow I sure feel old. :-* :-* ::) :D :D
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My first computer was a slide rule. I used that for many years before the advent of the first affordable electronic calculators...
I think I still have my slide rule somewhere as well as one that my dad had. Calculators came out before I needed to use my slide rule for school. I just had a slide rule because I thought it was cool. I guess it was a "pre-geek" thing.
I remember when my dad got his 1st TI calculator. It was about half the size of a book and had red digits. It only had 5 basic functions.
NOTE TO MODERATOR: If you would like to break this topic off for us to discuss, it would be ok with me. I realize we have gotten off the main topic.
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...I remember when a computer took up an entire room at one of the facilities I worked at....
...and had it's own dedicated AC unit. I think the one our company had even had an alarm if the temperature went too high so someone could rush in to back up or shut it down.
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PRODIGY? did that make it out of Florida, the initial test bed area? (Knight Ridder??)
Did anyone else own the "Regulator" system from Regency Electronics? Had 100 house codes and 100 unit codes, but was compatible with X10.
...yeah I know, I am perpetuating the "off topic" message, but X10 probably prefers this over the original "Product Specifications" topic ;-)