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 on: February 21, 2024, 06:54:09 AM 
Started by glacier991 - Last post by Tuicemen
Like many of the long time users here my system is mainly x10 both at my city and off grid place. However with a rasberrypi I've intergrated several other protocols into and meshed with my setup. X10 just doesn't have some modules that will work for some things. Like brobin I think  "Other Automation Systems" section would be the place for a thread like that. Although you never considered a x10 component in the solution it doesn't  mean that one couldn't be incorporated.  >!

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 on: February 21, 2024, 06:29:19 AM 
Started by glacier991 - Last post by petera
I think the key here is X10 forum. It’s probably the last platform remaining where users of X10 can come together to discuss all aspects of X10 and how this technology can continue to thrive within the larger ecosystem that is known as home automation. If we drift too far away from the subject matter of X10 this forum just becomes another general home automation forum and the subject X10 will eventually fade away.

Personally I use both the CM11 and CM15 controllers and with the aid of something as discreet as a Raspberry Pi Zero W and the likes of HomeGenie have turned it into a dedicated X10 controller. When necessary this can be easily extended to incorporate other technologies but the key here is X10 stands at the heart of this setup. If I needed it Alexa can be easily integrated directly into the setup.

I reckon you decide what is important to you and you run with it but for the sake of this forum and it’s user base it’s important we continue to keep X10 at the heart of the discussion.

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 on: February 21, 2024, 12:39:53 AM 
Started by glacier991 - Last post by brobin
The "Other Automation Systems" topic is a good place for those discussions.

 74 
 on: February 21, 2024, 12:13:33 AM 
Started by glacier991 - Last post by glacier991
Agree, though my system is x10, insteon, z wave and LoRa.

I think another forum may be better suited to this idea.

Thanks for your input.

 75 
 on: February 21, 2024, 12:10:30 AM 
Started by glacier991 - Last post by bkenobi
I'd say that everybody here has X10 components in their system but I don't know if they have primarily X10 anymore.  There's nothing wrong with the protocol but there are a lot of obstacles created by modern electronics.  For those willing to work through those issues, the system is very stable.  I have tinkered with other systems (mostly WiFi based) and it's not like those are perfect.  Alexa type devices are pretty popular but I've seen a lot of posts around talking about issues so I guess they aren't perfect either.

 76 
 on: February 20, 2024, 09:30:35 PM 
Started by glacier991 - Last post by glacier991
Spouses of early adopters are usually early complainers...but, as I think we have all seen,  the benefits of HA, though slow to be realized soon become part of the everyday fabric and habits in a smart house.

 77 
 on: February 20, 2024, 09:22:49 PM 
Started by glacier991 - Last post by guyl
My legally blind wife certainly appreciates the Alexa integration. Yesterday I got chewed out because it wasn't working after I was fiddling with it. Got it back up and she's happy.

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 on: February 20, 2024, 09:15:07 PM 
Started by glacier991 - Last post by glacier991
Thanks bkenobi... Your response is exactly why I am asking. Posting a HA project that does not have, and never considered having an X10 component on an X10 website is a little presumptious, and perhaps a "bridge too far".

I appreciate your input, will ponder my earlier idea.

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 on: February 20, 2024, 08:28:20 PM 
Started by glacier991 - Last post by bkenobi
It depends on what you mean by "purely X10".  If you mean that the system can only have components that operate via X10 PLC/RF, then I would agree because that would be pretty much timers and very basic things triggered by motion sensors.  I personally don't have a need for things like Alexa, but there are a lot of options in-between that may or not meet what you mean.  Like, I use a RPi connected to my CM15A to run the events/timers/triggers/etc because I find Active Home lacking.  I do have a couple non-X10 devices (primarily a hardwired motion sensor) but the core of my system is X10.

To be fair though, many of the things I used to use X10 for have been replaced by lights with motion sensors.  If X10 had updated the PR511 to be compatible with LED (and not look so ugly) I might not have switched.  I'm don't have the biggest system so I'm not the right person to define the rules.   8)

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 on: February 20, 2024, 08:10:10 PM 
Started by glacier991 - Last post by brobin
Same here. Whenever I'd automate something new my wife would roll her eyes and then come to rely on it & complain when it doesn't work.  Over the last 40 years she's changed to asking if I can automate this or that and loves it - particularly Alexa.

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