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 91 
 on: February 20, 2024, 06:07:34 PM 
Started by glacier991 - Last post by brobin
I, for one, welcome it as I use a combination of X-10 and other things not all of which involve X10.  I use my Stargate controller for several non-X10 purposes.

 92 
 on: February 20, 2024, 05:56:29 PM 
Started by glacier991 - Last post by glacier991
I think that X10 still has a place in HA, though personally not as a purely (100%) X10 system.

Along the way as we encounter HA issues, many of the HA geeks on this board have devised solutions, many of them quite clever and ingenious. For me, I think the geeky problem solutions are what sets this board (and the old timers here) apart.

I have one or two ideas/solutions that I would like to post (like  $100 +/-) auto leak water shutoff system. But, there is no X10 in it.

Do the geeks here welcome that kind of post, or is it beyond what this forum is all about?

Chris

 93 
 on: February 20, 2024, 03:56:27 PM 
Started by glacier991 - Last post by brobin
Case in point! Lighting up the world:


 94 
 on: February 20, 2024, 03:12:51 PM 
Started by glacier991 - Last post by Brian H
I am a bit surprised X10 is still around.
I know some here still have BSR modules still functioning.
After X10 Wireless Technologies just shut down with no warnings one day.
Thought we where done.
I am glad we got a new owner.
Yes it looks like newer automation users are going a different route.


 95 
 on: February 20, 2024, 12:52:39 PM 
Started by glacier991 - Last post by brobin
Actually, I think it's astonishing that X10 is still around at all. It will be 50 years old next year(!) with little to no change in its product line and nothing made obsolete or requiring firmware updates.  It's hard to think of any other consumer product that's had such a long run.  But times do change and newer offerings eliminate the constraints imposed by using PLC.  While the PLC issues have been successfully mitigated by serious users, most whom are members of this forum, today's options are just easier for the masses to use.

X-10, as the defacto HA standard for years, never evolved their product and has been surpassed by others who offer better solutions.  Even their WM100 was obsolete the day they released it and they've done little to improve it. 

 96 
 on: February 20, 2024, 01:07:54 AM 
Started by glacier991 - Last post by glacier991
Agree, but like a lot of these things, I now and then see them on E-Bay.

But that said, your comment could and does apply to an ever growing number of X-10 products. Either out of stock, not in production, it replaced by newer, often cheaper or smaller non X10 products.

(sigh).

 97 
 on: February 19, 2024, 06:23:11 PM 
Started by glacier991 - Last post by Brian H
Too bad it was discontinued.

 98 
 on: February 19, 2024, 06:22:00 PM 
Started by Emerogork - Last post by Brian H
Missed the no load connected.  B:(

Sounds like the modules on off sensor. That determines if the ratchet relay is On or Off before pulsing the ratchet relay.
Is causing the ratchet to pulse a few times to try and determinant its on or off state.
If the ratchet relay did not go on when it should. It maybe jammed or contacts are pitted and not going On.
I have seen this mostly when turning On but was not sensed.
If it was jammed or ratchet broken. It probably chatters with both an on or off.

 99 
 on: February 19, 2024, 01:11:40 PM 
Started by glacier991 - Last post by glacier991
I guess what I like about the Insteon is that is essentially plug (wire in) and play. Pigtails ready to wire into the water heater connection box. Looks good and easy to just wall mount. Nothing extra needed.

 100 
 on: February 19, 2024, 12:12:30 PM 
Started by Emerogork - Last post by brobin
@Emerogork says nothing connected so maybe adding a load would help but I used to just toss them when that happened.

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