Need information with halogen lamp

[protege_lx99]

Hi everyone,

first, sorry for my english, my first language is French

I have a question about X10 and halogen lamp

I have a mini controller (PHC-01), with a PAM02 module for my amplifier. Everything works well

I also want to control an halogen lamp (300W) with this controller.

Which module I need ? I saw PLM01, but I think it works only for incandescent lamp.

Do I need AM-466 module?

Thanks for your answer

[protege_lx99]

nobody has an idea?

[Tuicemen]

protege_lx99
It isn't unusual for ones post to go unanswered for many days( hopefully it doesn't take longer then that but it does happen) !
Expecting a reply in hours is expecting too much(however it does happen)!

The modules you use are the pro versions the PLM01 is the same as the AM486!
The halogen lamp is under the max rating so you should have no problems!
Of coarse I don't have a halogen lamp in my setup!
Others may have used other modules and recommend them!
Be patient if someone has an halogen lamp in their setup they will reply!

[Charles Sullivan]

The modules you use are the pro versions the PLM01 is the same as the AM486!

The PLM01 is a Lamp Module.  I assume you meant to say that the OP's PAM02 is the same as the AM486.

[dave w]

I also want to control an halogen lamp (300W) with this controller.

Which module I need ? I saw PLM01, but I think it works only for incandescent lamp.

Do I need AM-466 module?

Thanks for your answer

A 300W halogen does not use a power supply, so you can use a module for incandescent lights. It is the low voltage (12v) halogens that can not be controlled with a lamp module.  Although you would be at the wattage limit of a X10 Lamp Module. 

[protege_lx99]

I also want to control an halogen lamp (300W) with this controller.

Which module I need ? I saw PLM01, but I think it works only for incandescent lamp.

Do I need AM-466 module?

Thanks for your answer

A 300W halogen does not use a power supply, so you can use a module for incandescent lights. It is the low voltage (12v) halogens that can not be controlled with a lamp module.  Although you would be at the wattage limit of a X10 Lamp Module. 

I tried it with the PLM01 (lamp module) but the module "roasted" (I don't know if the word is exact. Grill may be the good word)

I was able to change the module under the warranty, that's the reason why I don't want to try it again with my halogen lamp. For the moment, I have an incandescent lamp on this module. But I would like to use it for my halogen lamp

[dave w]

I tried it with the PLM01 (lamp module) but the module "roasted" (I don't know if the word is exact. Grill may be the good word)

I was able to change the module under the warranty, that's the reason why I don't want to try it again with my halogen lamp. For the moment, I have an incandescent lamp on this module. But I would like to use it for my halogen lamp

Yes "roasted" and "grill" are fine words, "toast" and "smoked" work well also 

The Lamp Module should have handeled a 300 W halogen. Are you sure it isn't a 500W bulb? You may have to go to the Appliance Module.

[Tuicemen]

The modules you use are the pro versions the PLM01 is the same as the AM486!

The PLM01 is a Lamp Module.  I assume you meant to say that the OP's PAM02 is the same as the AM486.

Charles Your right! Guess I wasn't fully awake!
protege_lx99
The reason the lamp module failed was probably that you were at the max rating(listed on the back)!
Most devices with a listed max rating are designed to handle their maxium for only short periods (like a peak)!
The appliance modules are ratted much higher(500W) and should handle the 300 watts

[protege_lx99]

The Lamp Module should have handeled a 300 W halogen. Are you sure it isn't a 500W bulb? You may have to go to the Appliance Module.

I have a 300W buld in my lamp.

protege_lx99
The reason the lamp module failed was probably that you were at the max rating(listed on the back)!
Most devices with a listed max rating are designed to handle their maxium for only short periods (like a peak)!
The appliance modules are ratted much higher(500W) and should handle the 300 watts

So you think I should use an appliance module (PAM02) with my halogen lamp?

[Charles Sullivan]

The Lamp Module should have handeled a 300 W halogen. Are you sure it isn't a 500W bulb? You may have to go to the Appliance Module.

I have a 300W buld in my lamp.

protege_lx99
The reason the lamp module failed was probably that you were at the max rating(listed on the back)!
Most devices with a listed max rating are designed to handle their maxium for only short periods (like a peak)!
The appliance modules are ratted much higher(500W) and should handle the 300 watts

So you think I should use an appliance module (PAM02) with my halogen lamp?

Let's make clear exactly what type of halogen lamp you have.  If this is a halogen floor lamp, some of the ones I've seen have a dimmer or 2-level turn switch on the pole.  If so, this means they probably have a transformer or electronic control circuit and should be used only with an appliance module.  If you're sure that power to the halogen bulb itself comes straight from the mains without any control circuit or transformer in the path, then a plug-in lamp module should handle 300W without a problem.

[protege_lx99]

Let's make clear exactly what type of halogen lamp you have.  If this is a halogen floor lamp, some of the ones I've seen have a dimmer or 2-level turn switch on the pole.  If so, this means they probably have a transformer or electronic control circuit and should be used only with an appliance module.  If you're sure that power to the halogen bulb itself comes straight from the mains without any control circuit or transformer in the path, then a plug-in lamp module should handle 300W without a problem.

It's a halogen floor lamp. Here is a picture, it's the same lamp



There is also a 2 level turn switch on the pole and the bulb is a 300W

[Charles Sullivan]

It's a halogen floor lamp. Here is a picture, it's the same lamp

There is also a 2 level turn switch on the pole and the bulb is a 300W

OK.  So your options are:
1. Use the lamp as-is with an appliance module.
2. Rewire the lamp to remove the 2-level circuitry and use a plug-in lamp module.

I'd go with option 1.  Although option 2 would allow you to dim the lamp, halogen bulbs usually don't take well to running dimmed.  (The tungsten-halogen chemical process which allows the filament to be run hotter than ordinary incandescent bulbs only works in a restricted temperature range.)

[protege_lx99]

It's a halogen floor lamp. Here is a picture, it's the same lamp

There is also a 2 level turn switch on the pole and the bulb is a 300W

OK.  So your options are:
1. Use the lamp as-is with an appliance module.
2. Rewire the lamp to remove the 2-level circuitry and use a plug-in lamp module.

I'd go with option 1.  Although option 2 would allow you to dim the lamp, halogen bulbs usually don't take well to running dimmed.  (The tungsten-halogen chemical process which allows the filament to be run hotter than ordinary incandescent bulbs only works in a restricted temperature range.)

Thanks a lot for your answer Charles, I'll use an applicance module, that's the easiest solution. I don't really need to dim the light.

I'll give you feedback as soon as I receive my appliance module

thanks again