WS12A turns on but not off

[BananaChipz]

Hello,

I installed a WS12A to control a halogen fixture in my family room.  I'm using a TM751 Transceiver that's plugged into the same circuit that the fixture is on.

I can turn the fixture on and off (and dim) via the WS12A directly.  When I use the remote (SS13A), I can turn the lights on, but they don't respond to the off command.

I can hear the transceiver "pop" to both the on and off commands, so it's not a range issue.

any help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance!

[dave w]

Probably noise. 

If you dim the bulb does it dim to some lower level and then suddenly freeze? 

It is not a 12V MR16 style bulb is it? 

120V incandescent bulbs only, no low voltage track lighting on a WS12 or WS467.

[BananaChipz]

Crap!... it is a low voltage track...  and yes.. dimming is sometimes messed up.

I thought that the WS12A was fine for those?  I'm confused.  Could that be why it doesn't turn off?  Do i need the WS13A's?  I wish X10 would put less half naked woman, and more detailed information on their site

If it is noise, would one of those dryer plug coupler/repeaters do the trick?

Thank you so much for your replies.

[BananaChipz]

Oh, one other thing..

If I want to dim pot lighting, would I run into the same issue with the Ws12a?  I just noticed the WS13a doesn't dim.. *sigh* so confused.. I need
- to control low voltage track and Pot lighting
- Dimming capability


I did notice there is an X10 pro version XPDI3, that is rated for everything (including low voltage), and dims.  Will this work with the TM751 Transceiver?

[dave w]

Oh, one other thing..

If I want to dim pot lighting, would I run into the same issue with the Ws12a?  I just noticed the WS13a doesn't dim.. *sigh* so confused.. I need
- to control low voltage track and Pot lighting
- Dimming capability


I did notice there is an X10 pro version XPDI3, that is rated for everything (including low voltage), and dims.  Will this work with the TM751 Transceiver?

The XPDI3 should work for an inductive load (i.e transformers, ceiling fans, etc) so if your low voltage track lights use a transformer, you should be fine. If the track lights use a switching power supply, the XPDI3 will work if the track light instructions say the track can be dimmed. My guess is; because of your noise problem, you do have a switching supply for the track.

The WS13 will also work for the track lights but you will not have dimming. Both the WS13 and the XPDI3 requires a neutral line.

Assuming your "pot" lights (high hats?) use 120V incandescent bulbs, the WS12 or a WS467 (both are two wire switches which do not require a neutral) will work. They will not work with CFLs or LED bulbs as they draw their operational power through the incandescent bulb's filament. Neither LEDs nor CFLs pass this power when in the OFF state.

Noise can be filtered by X10 noise filters and many times noise can be overridden with a high output repeater such as the XTB IIR. If you intend on expanding your X10 system through out the house, a repeater is a worth while investment.

[BananaChipz]

Dave,

Thank you so much for your help.

I'm going to try my WS12A's with the pot lighting to see if I can at least get them to turn off.  I'm not sure what "type" the track is (some ikea fixture that we inherited with the house).

Thanks again.. you've helped me out greatly!

[Brian H]

I would not try a WS12A and any low voltage lights. If you do you can damage both the light or the WS12A.

[dave w]

I would not try a WS12A and any low voltage lights. If you do you can damage both the light or the WS12A.

I just modified my response to clairfy any "incandescent" on a WS12 or WS467 is to be a 120V incandescent.

Thanks

[BananaChipz]

Update:  It works great with the pot lights in the kitchen.. flawless on and off.  Looks like it was the low voltage light the whole time.

Thanks again!!!!

[Deemar]

What's a low voltage light?

[Brian H]

A low voltage light. Is one that has a power supply running low voltage bulbs; not directly connected to the power line.
Like the low voltage track lights mentioned earlier in the thread.