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X10 signal meter (e.g. ELK ESM1).
« on: July 01, 2010, 03:37:12 PM »

Anyone know of a replacement for the ELK ESM1 signal monitoring device ?
Trying to troubleshoot some maddening inermittent X10 signal problems.
 This thing appears to be discontinued ( As is everything I really want lately). :'(
 Trying to avoid monkeying around with a Scope and the 120vac power line .
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Re: X10 signal meter (e.g. ELK ESM1).
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2010, 03:46:28 PM »

Anyone know of a replacement for the ELK ESM1 signal monitoring device ?
Trying to troubleshoot some maddening inermittent X10 signal problems.

Jeff Volp (from here at the forum) makes one! Knightrider (also from here at the forum) purchased [and assemabled] one. He asked me to review it for thisautomatedhouse.com which I was happy to do. I was impressed with the unit.
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Re: X10 signal meter (e.g. ELK ESM1).
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2010, 04:06:44 PM »

Check this thread for links.  They still sell it or rent it......


http://forums.x10.com/index.php?topic=18494.0
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Re: X10 signal meter (e.g. ELK ESM1).
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2010, 04:18:29 PM »

Anyone know of a replacement for the ELK ESM1 signal monitoring device ?
Trying to troubleshoot some maddening inermittent X10 signal problems.

Jeff Volp (from here at the forum) makes one! Knightrider (also from here at the forum) purchased [and assemabled] one. He asked me to review it for thisautomatedhouse.com which I was happy to to. I was impressed with the unit.

Great. going to the site to check it out  :)% Looks like this is the only affordable option. Thanks!  >!
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Re: X10 signal meter (e.g. ELK ESM1).
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2010, 06:29:46 PM »

I also have an XTBM and I am very happy with it.
The only other X10 meter that maybe in production is much more costly. Monterrey was the name.

I also have an ELM ESM1 and though OK. The XTBM is much more versatile.

I believe Automated Outlet may still have the ESM1.
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Re: X10 signal meter (e.g. ELK ESM1).
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2010, 06:42:06 PM »

I also have an XTBM and I am very happy with it.
The only other X10 meter that maybe in production is much more costly. Monterrey was the name.

I also have an ELM ESM1 and though OK. The XTBM is much more versatile.

I believe Automated Outlet may still have the ESM1.


Thanks you are right the automated outlet still lists a ESM1 but if I go for a sig
meter , I think it'd be better to go with the XTBM kit. I aint afraid of a solder
pencil. Been fixing laptops for a long while. Can't be harder then that  ;D. Plus
the ESM1 price is in the same range as the XTBM. Hope XTB  has the kit parts still.
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Re: X10 signal meter (e.g. ELK ESM1).
« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2010, 06:59:38 PM »

The XTBM s much easier to work on than a Laptop or Two Way Radio Portable.
I use to fix Two Way Radios of the mobile style. The portables where too small for me.  ;D
I went the XTBM Kit route and it was not difficult at all to assemble.
I did an XTB-IIR Kit also.

I do like all the XTBM features and the ability to send a signal at power up to trigger a repeater really helps. You can plug it in and read a signal back all at the sametime. I have also found a EarthLed EvoLux S LED bulb so noisy it reads the full scale of .99 volts noise. I am sure it is even higher than that, as it causes a .3 volt noise reading in just about the whole house. The .99 volt noise being in the same outlet as the bulb is connected to.
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Re: X10 signal meter (e.g. ELK ESM1).
« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2010, 09:08:33 PM »


I have an Elk ESM1 and I'm not very impressed by it.  I'd definitely go with the XTBM if I needed to buy another X10 signal meter.
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Re: X10 signal meter (e.g. ELK ESM1).
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2010, 10:20:29 AM »

I too went the route of purchasing and assembling the XTBM.  I agree that it is very easy to assemble.  The information that it presents is extremely helpful and has helped me trace down several issues. 

I do not have any of the other X10 metering equipment to make comparisons, but I can say that the XTBM was well worth the $$$.
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Re: X10 signal meter (e.g. ELK ESM1).
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2010, 04:07:16 PM »

As always in my experience, people on these forums have a wealth of information and
experience that they freely share with newbies. I find that this makes working with
X10 technology and equipment most enjoyable and gives great answers to questions.
:)% You guys are the best  #:) . Had to give thanks and acknowledge all who have
commented about your experiences. Bottom line . I would be an idiot not to go with
the XTBM device judging from the responses I have read so far.  I don't think I am
an idiot so.. I am going with what the group says is the best device XTBM.
Thanks U all  8)
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Re: X10 signal meter (e.g. ELK ESM1).
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2010, 09:28:30 PM »

I am going with what the group says is the best device XTBM.
Thanks U all  8)

Add my vote for the XTBM. It is a great unit.

I know it is disrespectful to bad mouth the dead, but compared to the XTBM, the old Elk meter is poo-poo. However when they first came out, back in the 90's, they were the greatest invention since the Dust Buster and the Coors "Cold Activated Can".  rofl
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Re: X10 signal meter (e.g. ELK ESM1).
« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2010, 10:48:46 PM »

I bought an ESM1 back before it became an Elk product.  It was indeed a handy tool for those of us who were fighting X10 problems.  I just wish I had it when I started to expand my X10 system 20 years ago.

When the ESM1 and TesterLinc were discontinued, I originally set out to pretty much duplicate the ESM1 functionality.  However, like the way the XTB gradually evolved into the XTB-IIR, the simple LED bargraph tester evolved into the XTBM.  Since noise is such a serious problem today, much of the XTBM development went into identifying potential noise problems.

Jeff
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