Time to track down the signal sucker

[Brian H]

If the 6287 is connected to the AC power line and its filtered output is then connected to the outlet where the line was originally. Any outlet chained to that outlet will also be on the filtered side.

One BIG thing to watch. It is only a 5 amp filter. Don't overload it.

[Brandt]

If the 6287 is connected to the AC power line and its filtered output is then connected to the outlet where the line was originally. Any outlet chained to that outlet will also be on the filtered side.

One BIG thing to watch. It is only a 5 amp filter. Don't overload it.

I think I'm doing it reverse? I want stop the signal sucker that is plugged into that receptacle so the X10 signal on the line doesn't get sucked into the device.

[JeffVolp]

The 6287 is only rated for 5A, so it would not meet code to splice that into a circuit that could feed a standard duplex receptacle.  The big 20A XPF will provide isolation in both directions - either from a noise generator or signal sucker.

The 6287 is commonly used to isolate ceiling lighting circuits that consume well under 5A.

Jeff

[Brandt]

I wouldn't be Able to fit the xpf behind the receptacle :-/

[JeffVolp]

I wouldn't be Able to fit the xpf behind the receptacle :-/

I see...  The filter will corrupt the sound if it is visible, but not if it is hidden...

Isn't that pretty much what I said much earlier in this discussion?

Jeff

[Brandt]

i agree with you but whatever gotta appease people.

who knows he may still notice a difference with it behind the receptacle, and then notice it if i installed an XPF at the breaker....dunno gotta try it all cause unfortunately our two hobbies are clashing because of this power conditioner he has.

[Brandt]

While I'd rather not give up an entire circuit, I think using the XPF at the breaker panel is probably smarter than using the 6287 at a receptacle. However I don't know how to go about installing it at the breaker panel. Could anyone provide me with photos of an install that is up to code? Also, I am renting the home so no big holes in the wall, and the breaker panel is on the side of the house so it has to be a neat clean install.


OR

If anybody knows a neat way to tuck away an XPF behind a receptacle?

-Brandt

The 6287 is only rated for 5A, so it would not meet code to splice that into a circuit that could feed a standard duplex receptacle.  The big 20A XPF will provide isolation in both directions - either from a noise generator or signal sucker.

The 6287 is commonly used to isolate ceiling lighting circuits that consume well under 5A.

Jeff

[JeffVolp]

The 20A XPF is big, and needs a triple gang electrical box to install per the code.  It connects with just three wires, two hot which go in series with the feed from the breaker, and neutral.

Jeff

[Brandt]

I understand that much from the instructions but what about the physical install such as where do I mount the  box and how to splice those short wires to the breaker etc...

[dave w]

http://www.smarthomeusa.com/ShopByManufacturer/X-10-Pro/Item/XPF/

By NEC you can't mount the filter in the breaker panel, so you will need another box next to the breaker panel to hold the XPF. Unfortunately thats the way it is.

White wire from XPF goes to the neutral buss in the panel. Black wire from breaker feeding the stereo gets disconnected from the breaker and wire nutted to the red wire from XPF. Black wire from XPF gets connected back to the breaker. Since the XPF wires are likely too short to reach from a box external to the panel, you will need some 14ga or 12ga "jumper" wires between the breaker/neutral/load line and the XPF.

How did you mount the XTBIIR?

[Brandt]

Thanks Dave.

The XTB-IIR; I bought some heavy gauge power cord and attached a 4 prong dryer plug to it. The dryer outlet is on the opposite side of the garage as the breaker panel, so I don't know how directly connected to the panel it is.

[dave w]

The XTB-IIR; I bought some heavy gauge power cord and attached a 4 prong dryer plug to it. The dryer outlet is on the opposite side of the garage as the breaker panel, so I don't know how directly connected to the panel it is.

I see. Thats exactly how I connected our ACT CR234, because I did not want to make a big hole in the wall next to our panel. Unfortunately it doesn't help your situation with the XPF.

[Brandt]

I *think* I have an idea for installing it at the receptacle without affecting receptacles that are daisy chained by it.

-shut breaker off
-remove receptacle
-remove single gang wall box
-insert 4 gang remodel box in existing drywall hole (only one gang of the four would be accessible from the hole in the wall)
-slip the XPF into the wall box and seat behind drywall
-install 12/14 gauge jumper wires into wire nuts for bypassing daisy chained receptacle
-wire XPF inline with jumper wires and receptacle
-install receptacle
-turn breaker on