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[Chris S.]

I have been using AHP and the Floodlight (PR511) for about 8 months,
and would always have event stored in the Activity Monitor when the
Floodlight turned on or off.
example:  B13 (Front Flood Lamp)
              B13 ON

The changes to my system since then has been the AHP upgrade to 3.201
Smart Macros and iWitness registration, I have not received the USB video adapter,
so I have not installed the driver yet.

Everything else seems to be working fine.
This seems to be the only module (2-way module in fact) that is no longer
recognized by AHP.

When the Flood Lamp is on , the corresponding AHP module is not updated
with the current status. However if I hit the Status button for that module,
the correct status is returned.

I also have the SmartHome SIGNALINC REPEATER 4-WIRE DRYER
that did resolve a lot of issues in the beginning.

I can control the Floodlamp from both the controlpad and AHP (Turning on and OFF)
and of course the correct Activity event is recorded, but not when the Floodlight
is acting on it;s own.

The Activity recorded when motion is detected is;

13 02/26/2006 10:31:42 pm Receive B1
14 02/26/2006 10:31:42 pm Receive B16
15 02/26/2006 10:31:42 pm Receive B15
16 02/26/2006 10:31:42 pm Receive B14
17 02/26/2006 10:31:43 pm Receive B Off


I have Cleared the Interface, disconnected, removed batteries, reconnected,
replaced batteries and reloaded interface a few times.

If anyone has any suggestions, that would be great.

Thanks

[Dan Lawrence]

As to the module status problem, that has been identifed and a fix will be in an upgrade (possibly the next upgrade). It's related to communication problems between AHP and X10 Network Services.  I brought it to the attention of X10 Pro.

What are you controlling your PR511 with? I'm using a XPS3 to control the PR511, since the original Active Home did not corretly control the 511. AHP seems to (it shows up in the module list) but what I've got works and the 511 works properly on a dusk to 12:30 AM timer schedule.

[Chris S.]

I forgot the exact version, I think it was 3.87,
but in the version prior to my upgrade to 3.201
The 511 was recognized in AHP AM.

This is useful for my now, because I would like to initiate a macro
based on the B13-511 ON trigger.

Macro won't work because AHP no longer recognizes the 511 module.

[Dan Lawrence]

That's why the XPS3.  It controls the PR511, turns its power on when the timer runs. the 511 uses its sensor to turn the floodlights on an off when it senses motion. At 12:30 AM the timer turns the XPS3 off, which in turn cuts the electric power to the 511.

I've used the 511/XPS3 since the orginal Active Home, and it continuses under AHP, versions 3.85 thru 3.201

[Chris S.]

Dan,

Thanks for the idea.

I found the issue.

When the Floodlight (PR511) was recognized in the AHP Activity monitor,
the power for this unit was inside the house, on a rocker light switch along with 3 other switches.

I recently added a " Decorator Dimmer Switch (WS12A)" to the panel of 4 switches,
replacing one of the switches with the WS12A.

I had the "Line" black wire and the "Load" blue wire reversed on the wires from the electrical receptacle.

The back of the WS12A states (Line - Black , Load, Blue)

Wall Panel Layout:


I reversed the wires, and AHP now responds and recognizes the Floodlight including 3 macros that I created.


Thanks

[Chris S.]

Well, I thought I fixed the problem, but still not getting event logs in
Activity Monitor for the PR511 (B13)

Dan, you had mentioned something about the XPS3.
The power switch for the PR511 is a regular wall switch,
an XPS3 is not a module that I have.

I disconnected the WS12A to eliminate that as a potential problem.
You also said that this is a known issue with x10,
(PR511 not recognized in the Activity Monitor)

You're sure about that right ?

Anyways, if anyone else has any ideas, let me know.
All other sensores (ActiveEye) are recognized.

Thanks

[Dan Lawrence]

My local X10 Dealer recommended the XPS3 which is a X10Pro unit as both AH and AHP had trouble controlling a PR511. When I got the 511 (from my local dealer) I hooked it up like any other module. I couldn't define it as itself in AH and it ran 24 hours a day. I e-mailed him and he had me get the XPS3. It's a Derora faced switch so I got a Decora faced lamp module for my outside lamppost so both look nice in double gang box.  AH was happy and AHP likes it (and defines the PR511 as itself.  I remembered that in AH the 511 was defined as an appliance module since the 511 cannot be dimmed.  AHP defines it as a PR511 and it shows up as a non-dimable module. The timer is run by the XPS3, the PR511 has the timer button, but since the XPS3 controls it no timer is defined.

I would recommend you get a XPS3 to control your PR511, it's more cost, but better performance.

[Chris S.]

I was not aware that a switch that was rated for more current, would potential be the problem,
so I figured I would get in touch the X10 Tech support before I bought the switch.

I sent an email to tech support on Friday at 12:30pm, and recieved a responce back from X10
about an 1 1/2 hours later.

My Email:
**********************************************************************************
I have purchased a number of products from X10,
over the past year,
 
AHP (current version running is 3.201)
CM115
ActiveEye Motion Sensors (MS16A)
Lamp Modules (LM465)
Socket Rocket (LM15A)
Flood Lamp Motion Sensor (PR115)
Decorator Style 3-Way Light Switch (WS12A)
 
All modules , sensors have been recording events accurately in the
Activity Monitor, with the exception of the FloodLamp (PR115).
 
The FloodLamp (PR115) is set to B13.
I am using a standard wall switch to provide power to the Flood Lamp.
There are currently no Macros associated with B13.
 
 If I initiate the ON or OFF trigger from either AHP or the Control Pad (HR12A-C),
The correct events are logged in the Activity Monitor. ie;
 
0 03/10/2006 12:00:39 pm Receive RF B13 On
1 03/10/2006 12:00:40 pm Receive B13 (Front Flood Lamp)
2 03/10/2006 12:00:40 pm Receive B On (Front Flood Lamp)
3 03/10/2006 12:00:49 pm Receive B13 (Front Flood Lamp)
4 03/10/2006 12:00:49 pm Receive B Off (Front Flood Lamp)
 
When the Flood Lamp Motion Sensor is initiated by motion, the following
Is recorded in the Activity Monitor;
 
20 03/10/2006 12:17:40 pm Receive B1
21 03/10/2006 12:17:40 pm Receive B16
22 03/10/2006 12:17:41 pm Receive B15
23 03/10/2006 12:17:41 pm Receive B14
24 03/10/2006 12:17:42 pm Receive B On
25 03/10/2006 12:17:50 pm Receive B1
26 03/10/2006 12:17:51 pm Receive B16
27 03/10/2006 12:17:51 pm Receive B15
28 03/10/2006 12:17:51 pm Receive B14
29 03/10/2006 12:17:52 pm Receive B Off
 
When the Flood Lamp turns on, initiated by motion,
 The AHP module status of OFF does not reflect the true status of the Flood Lamp,
 If I POLL the module (while the Flood Lamp is ON) the true status of the Flood Lamp
 is returned, and the AHP module is updated with the ON status correctly.
 
 As a result of this issue, no Macros will run using the B13 ON / OFF Trigger
Because it is not recognized in AHP
 
 On the X10 forum, someone suggested that I replace the standard wall switch that
Powers the PR115 with an XPS3 switch.
 
I am also using a SIGNALINC REPEATER 4-WIRE DRYER
 that did resolve a lot of issues in the beginning concerning signals not being sent
through my power lines.
 
All other modules are working fine within AHP.
 
Any help would be most appreciated.
 
Thank You.
**********************************************************************************


X10 Tech Support Responce:
**********************************************************************************
Greetings!

The PR511 is an unusual sensor. It will *never* send its Start Code, the code
that you can send to activate it. It will only send codes 1 to 4 unit codes
higher, as you are seeing. Your PR511 at Start Code B13 is sending B14-B17, but
17 equals 1 in X10 math, so it sends B1 instead of B17. This is just like how
11:00 AM plus two hours equals 1:00 PM; the numbers "wrap around." (Basically,
this is modulo addition; see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modular_arithmetic for
the technical details.)

Please carefully review page 6 of your manual:

House Code
• Set the House Code dial to match other X10 Modules that are to be controlled
by the Motion Monitor and X10 Controllers you want to use to control the Motion
Monitor.
Start Code
• This is the “Unit Code” for the Motion Monitor. The Motion Monitor floodlights
can be turned on and off from an X10 controller using this Unit Code.
The Start Code is also the number that is added to the slide switch numbers to
set the Unit Codes for other X10 Modules controlled by the Motion Monitor.
Note: When the floodlights are turned on using an X10 controller, they will stay
on until they are turned off again using an X10 controller.
Sensor switches
• These switches determine which other X10 Modules will be turned on when motion
is sensed. The number next to the switch (+1 to +4) is added to the Start Code
to determine the Unit Code for an X10 Module. (For example, if the Start Code is
set to
3 and the Sensor Switch labeled 2 is set to IN, the module with unit code 5 and
the same House Code as the Motion Monitor will turn on when motion is detected).
I.E., Start code (3) plus In/Out switch (+2) = 5. Set the X10 Module inside the
house
(having the same House Code) to unit 5 and when motion is detected, the X10
Module set to Unit Code 5 will also cycle with the floodlights.
Dusk switches
• These switches determine which other X10 Modules will be turned on at dusk and
off at dawn. The number next to the switch (+5 to +8) is added to the Start Code
to determine the Unit Code for an X10 Module. (For example, if the Start Code is
set to 3 and the Sensor Switch labeled 6 is set to IN, the module with unit code
9 and the same House Code as the Motion Monitor will turn on at dusk, and turn
off at dawn). Caution: To avoid the risk of fire or injury ensure that
potentially hazardous appliances such as portable heaters or fans will not be
accidentally controlled by the Motion Monitor. Choose controlled Unit Codes
carefully.

Adjust your macro settings and the Sensor In/Out switches to get your desired
results. If you have any more questions, please reply to this email. Thanks for
choosing X10!
**********************************************************************************

So since my "Sensor" settings on the Floodlight 1-4 were all set "in",
that explains why I was getting;
20 03/10/2006 12:17:40 pm Receive B1 (modulo addition) B17 which does not exist
21 03/10/2006 12:17:40 pm Receive B16
22 03/10/2006 12:17:41 pm Receive B15
23 03/10/2006 12:17:41 pm Receive B14
24 03/10/2006 12:17:42 pm Receive B On

Now I have the settings on the Floodlight set correctly, have turned off switches 2-4 (out position)
and left switch 1 in the "in" position (code B14) which I have changed my Macro Trigger from B13 to B14 (correct Trigger ON)
and my Macros are now working correctly when motion is sensed from the Floodlight Sensor.


Alot of information, but I wanted to share my problem.

Dan, I would still be curious if the better quaility switch would indeed
report correctly the status of B13 (Floodlight).


Thanks

[Dan Lawrence]

As I noted before, the XPS3 totally controls the power to the PRS511.  AHP recognizes both the XPS3 and the 511.  The timer handles the XPS3 only,the 511 has no timers.

The CM15A runs all the proper timers, every day of the week, 365 (or 366) days a year.

Module status in AHP is a chancy thing, due to the already discused problems with communication between X10 Network Service, which records what the CM15A is doing and is supposed to pass it to AHP, if the progam is not running when timers operate. AHP also won't show proper module status if it is open when a timer runs and turns on a lamp that was off.  X10 is aware of that problem and it is supposed to be addressed in the next update to AHP.

[Chris S.]

Thanks Dan,

That clarifies it for me.

I was pleased with the quick responce from X10 tech support, and their reply
to help to resolve running Macros from the PR511.


Thanks again.