One Way for CM11A

Started by marineau, January 07, 2007, 07:07:41 PM

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marineau

Is it possible to disable Data coming from powerLine (OneWay)?
In others words, I want send data to PowerLine, but no receive.

Thanks


Charles Sullivan

Quote from: marineau on January 07, 2007, 07:07:41 PM
Is it possible to disable Data coming from powerLine (OneWay)?
In others words, I want send data to PowerLine, but no receive.


No.  As far as I know, you have to at least answer the incoming data poll (0x5A) from the CM11A.

Yesterday it worked.
Today it doesn't work.
X10 on Windows is like that.

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dave w

Marineau
Are you doing your own software? Would the one way interface work?

http://www.x10.com/automation/x10_pl513.htm
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Charles Sullivan

Quote from: dave w on January 08, 2007, 11:18:37 AM
Marineau
Are you doing your own software? Would the one way interface work?

http://www.x10.com/automation/x10_pl513.htm


This interface is intended to be driven by a microcontroller.  I've heard of software that will drive it under MS-DOS but I don't think it can be made to work on a multi-tasking system like Windows.

Yesterday it worked.
Today it doesn't work.
X10 on Windows is like that.

HEYU - X10 Automation for Linux, Unix, and Mac OS X     http://www.heyu.org

marineau

Quote from: Charles Sullivan on January 07, 2007, 11:59:58 PM
Quote from: marineau on January 07, 2007, 07:07:41 PM
Is it possible to disable Data coming from powerLine (OneWay)?
In others words, I want send data to PowerLine, but no receive.

No.  As far as I know, you have to at least answer the incoming data poll (0x5A) from the CM11A.
Yes, But my problem is this:
When CM11A receive Data from PowerLine in same time that I tried to send command to PowerLine, CM11A wait 3 seconds for send my command to PowerLine.
I'm ask me if possible to install a OneWayFilter on 120Volts for stop any IN data ...



Charles Sullivan

Quote from: marineau on January 08, 2007, 06:31:29 PM
Quote from: Charles Sullivan on January 07, 2007, 11:59:58 PM
Quote from: marineau on January 07, 2007, 07:07:41 PM
Is it possible to disable Data coming from powerLine (OneWay)?
In others words, I want send data to PowerLine, but no receive.

No.  As far as I know, you have to at least answer the incoming data poll (0x5A) from the CM11A.
Yes, But my problem is this:
When CM11A receive Data from PowerLine in same time that I tried to send command to PowerLine, CM11A wait 3 seconds for send my command to PowerLine.
I'm ask me if possible to install a OneWayFilter on 120Volts for stop any IN data ...


Although a one-way interface would not recognize incoming signals, if incoming signals are present on the power line when you send there will be a collision and the sent signals will be corrupted.   If that's of no concern, write your software to send RF commands via a CM17A Firecracker and use a TM751 Transceiver to convert them to power line signals.  The TM751 is "rude" and doesn't check for a clear power line before sending.

Yesterday it worked.
Today it doesn't work.
X10 on Windows is like that.

HEYU - X10 Automation for Linux, Unix, and Mac OS X     http://www.heyu.org

marineau

Quote from: Charles Sullivan on January 08, 2007, 07:49:40 PM
If that's of no concern, write your software to send RF commands via a CM17A Firecracker and use a TM751 Transceiver to convert them to power line signals.  The TM751 is "rude" and doesn't check for a clear power line before sending.

Very good, It's a real good idea to send Macro by RF Signal... I will to think to this, but for TM751, it slow (850ms) !

Thanks for your good idea !

Charles Sullivan

Quote from: marineau on January 08, 2007, 10:21:11 PM
Quote from: Charles Sullivan on January 08, 2007, 07:49:40 PM
If that's of no concern, write your software to send RF commands via a CM17A Firecracker and use a TM751 Transceiver to convert them to power line signals.  The TM751 is "rude" and doesn't check for a clear power line before sending.

Very good, It's a real good idea to send Macro by RF Signal... I will to think to this, but for TM751, it slow (850ms) !

Thanks for your good idea !

You'll need to calculate for yourself the absolute minimum time required to transmit  one X10 RF On or Off plus one X10 address PLC plus one X10 function PLC using the X10 RF and PLC protocols - just the transmission time, ignoring any delays in the transmitting and receiving circuitry.   Then you can determine what's slow and what's fast.

Yesterday it worked.
Today it doesn't work.
X10 on Windows is like that.

HEYU - X10 Automation for Linux, Unix, and Mac OS X     http://www.heyu.org

marineau

Quote from: Charles Sullivan on January 08, 2007, 10:47:18 PM
You'll need to calculate for yourself the absolute minimum time required to transmit  one X10 RF On or Off plus one X10 address PLC plus one X10 function PLC using the X10 RF and PLC protocols - just the transmission time, ignoring any delays in the transmitting and receiving circuitry.   Then you can determine what's slow and what's fast.
Yes, sorry I mean slower than,  I modified my method to obtain a necessary time and now I can obtain a exact result ! I believe that the theoretical minimum would be .533ms to 60hz

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