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narinesa

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Problem with 220v
« on: October 27, 2007, 11:31:50 AM »

I have two 110 v lines into my main braker box.
x10 AHP works only on one side.

I am trying to bridge the signal by signal by jumpling the netural on both sides via a 14 guage wire.
Any problems with this ?
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Re: Problem with 220v
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2007, 11:57:38 AM »

I have two 110 v lines into my main braker box.
x10 AHP works only on one side.

I am trying to bridge the signal by signal by jumpling the netural on both sides via a 14 guage wire.
Any problems with this ?

The neutrals on both phases should be at the same potential in the breaker box and X10 signals travel along the Line wire, so that will not work.

Besides, never jumper anything in a breaker box with a wire.

Look at the list & links for Passive Couplers here: [VOLUNTEERS] *Comprehensive* Filter, Passive Coupler & Signal Analyzer LINK List

If you have a 220V stove or dryer, you can turn them on full and see if your X10 signals now reach the other side. If they do, a passive coupler will work; if they don't you may still need a passive coupler, but you may also have signal integrity issues to deal with.
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Re: Problem with 220v
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2007, 11:59:09 AM »


I am trying to bridge the signal by signal by jumpling the netural on both sides via a 14 guage wire.


STOP

There is a correct way to bridge the the phases that is NOT it.
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Re: Problem with 220v
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2007, 12:47:29 PM »

Jumping the neutral from each side will do nothing as they are common in the breaker box and tied together already.
STOP as others have said. Get proper information before you hurt yourself or the power distribution in your home.
Use a proper coupler or a repeater do do phase bridging.
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Re: Problem with 220v
« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2007, 03:31:34 PM »

I have two 110 v lines into my main braker box.
x10 AHP works only on one side.

I am trying to bridge the signal by signal by jumpling the netural on both sides via a 14 guage wire.
Any problems with this ?

NO!!!   That is DANGEROUS!!!!

If you have an electric stove, you can use a 0.1 uF 250 VAC Capacitor, available at electronic shops that is mounted in the outlet box the stove plugs into. It's wired across the two connectors in the box.  The  capacitor draws no power and bridges the two phases, so your X10 modules work anywhere in the house.

If you don't have an electric stove, but have an electric dryer, you can buy a coupler on the X10 site that is plugged into the dryer outlet and bridges the phases.
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Re: Problem with 220v
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2007, 09:36:54 AM »

I used a capacitor, as well. However, I put it in the disconnect box for my A/C compressor. There was much more room in there than in the dryser shutoff. It has worked great for over three years.
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narinesa

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Re: Problem with 220v
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2007, 12:15:34 PM »

Thanks for all the info.
Will do it the correct way.
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