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[marineau]

I read in forum that I can turn ON/OFF RR501 with MiniController, but impossible for TM751 !

But Does I can enable/disable RF detection on RR501 with a remote ?

[Puck]

But Does I can enable/disable RF detection on RR501 with a remote ?

marineau: not sure why you would want to do this? Why not just replace it with an appliance module?

[HA Dave]

The RR501(is a Transceiver) has a 1-or-9 switch, which designates which Unit Code the Transceiver will respond to (activating its relay and turning ON or OFF). (The TM751 is hardwired to Unit Code 1 and cannot be changed).

The RR501 will respond to powerline commands as well as RF. The TM751 will only respond to RF.

The RR501 does not lock up if it hears its own signal from another transceiver; this is occasionally a problem with multiple TM751s.

You can't disable the RF (or powerline) part of the RR501.... in any way that I know of.

[Dan Lawrence]

The RR501 is better than the TM751. I have two SS13A Stick-A-Switches, one in the Living Room and one in the Breakfast Room. The 751 would talk to the SS13A sporadicly, but the 501 does it every time.

The only glitch I found with the RR501 is that you can't have two of them on the same housecode. I had to put my Kitchen/Breakfast Room on housecode F ("Food") because the 501 in the Breakfast Room kept stepping on the one in the Living Room and vice versa. Once I did that, neither one steps on the other.

That info came from my local X10 dealer.

[Brian H]

One of the schematics I have on the RR501 does show a jumper to disable the RF receiver. Not sure if it is the current RR501 or an earlier one as there are at least two radially different ones.
Will open one today and see what I can find.

[marineau]

But Does I can enable/disable RF detection on RR501 with a remote ?

marineau: not sure why you would want to do this? Why not just replace it with an appliance module?

Ok, I will try to explain this:

I want install 1 MS14A on bedroom, to open lamp when motion is detected and turn off after 60 secondes
I want able to disable when necessary a ON and OFF function form MS14A (ex: while sleepping)

Is it possible to STOP all function on TM751 or RR501 ?

Thanks

[marineau]

The RR501 is better than the TM751. I have two SS13A Stick-A-Switches, one in the Living Room and one in the Breakfast Room. The 751 would talk to the SS13A sporadicly, but the 501 does it every time.

The only glitch I found with the RR501 is that you can't have two of them on the same housecode. I had to put my Kitchen/Breakfast Room on housecode F ("Food") because the 501 in the Breakfast Room kept stepping on the one in the Living Room and vice versa. Once I did that, neither one steps on the other.

That info came from my local X10 dealer.

If I understood that you said, If I can increase my RF signal in my house, I have just to install many TM751 to same house code and I will have none duplication ?

But if I want an exactitude from RF command, I have to install many RR501 but on different house code ?

[Puck]

I want able to disable when necessary a ON and OFF function form MS14A (ex: while sleepping)

There is no way to directly control the receiving ability of the Transceiver.

I can think of 2 ways to try this (but never did this so I don't know how well they will work):

• 1) Plug the Transceiver into an Appliance Module to control when it can receive the MS14A's signal
  
  
• 2) Use a Universal Module UM506 in series with the jumper that Brian mentioned.
  
  

[Brian H]

As Puck said. No way with any type of command.
I like his appliance module controlling the RR501 as it is easier and maybe safer than an external switch on the RR501 RF jumper. The RR501 has an AC derived power supply and the common connection is the Hot/Line AC power. So touch the incorrect thing and a shock or a bang may happen.

Remember I have no data on actually doing this and a shock hazard can happen if isolation is lost with an external wire or switch:

RR501 matching ORYSHNET Systems Inc. Schematic
Board H10137E [on mine]
RJ2 is the RF jumper to the PIC chip from the receiver.
Component side to you with AC input pins at the top
Near the mechanical relay is an 8 pin IC LM393
Pin 1 is the RF output to the PIC Chip
Jumper is just above the IC near its pin #8 and connects to pin 1 and other side goes to R27 47K resistor and a PC Board run to the PIC chips pin 2.

[marineau]

As Puck said. No way with any type of command.
I like his appliance module controlling the RR501 as it is easier and maybe safer than an external switch on the RR501 RF jumper. The RR501 has an AC derived power supply and the common connection is the Hot/Line AC power. So touch the incorrect thing and a shock or a bang may happen.

Thanks Brian, I like idea about to use AM486 to turn ON or OFF a TM751 module with another house code. I'm sure that work fine, and reversible later.
Today I don't have in stock a AM486, but I have a LM465 in stock.
Does I can use a Lamp module ? I believe that NOT !

[TakeTheActive]

...I like idea about to use AM486 to turn ON or OFF a TM751 module with another house code...

...I don't have in stock a AM486, but I have a LM465 in stock. Does I can use a Lamp module? I believe that NOT !

I've been using that concept, with a few embellishments, successfully for several years now - "NightXcvrTM751" (TM751 @ P1) plugged into "Night Enable" (AM486 @ L16); all first floor (and outdoor) lights are on HouseCode "C":

• Preliminary setup by "Go-To-Bed" MACRO, kicked off by TIMER @ 01:00 includes:
  
  
• DIMMING "Hall Ceiling" to 1% (idling, but not OFF)
  
• Turning "Night Enable" ON
  
  
• When MOTION is detected by "Nighttime Path" (MS14A @ P9):
  
  
• "Kitchen Ceiling" and "DR Ceiling" are >>>BLASTED<<< to 35% (ON then DIM), but since I'm not there yet, it doesn't hurt my sleepy eyes.
  
• "Hall Ceiling" is *GENTLY* BRIGHTENED to 25% (pre-loaded by "Go-To-Bed" MACRO).
  
• After 15 minutes, "Hall Ceiling", "Kitchen Ceiling" and "DR Ceiling" are all DIMMED to 1% (just in case).
  
• After 2 hours, "Kitchen Ceiling" and "DR Ceiling" are turned OFF (long enough to wait )
  

[Creation inspired by that "Every man over the age of 50 will eventually develop... ]

[marineau]

Preliminary setup by "Go-To-Bed" MACRO, kicked off by TIMER @ 01:00 includes:

I understand your method by Macro, I tried and work fine but with delay ...
I don't like this 3 or 4 seconds delay when I enter in room when it's dark ...
MS14A have his own delay (1 or 2 seconds) + another delay before macro execute(1 or 2 seconds) a command to turn ON a lamp (Total 3 or 4 seconds) !

[TakeTheActive]

...I don't like this 3 or 4 seconds delay when I enter in room when it's dark ...

...MS14A have his own delay (1 or 2 seconds) + another delay before macro execute(1 or 2 seconds) a command to turn ON a lamp (Total 3 or 4 seconds) !

W a l k  S l o w e r . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   Don't forget the 1-2 second delays that sometimes have to be inserted BETWEEN COMMANDs too - the CM15A (aka Edsel) ain't your grandma's CM11A (Chevrolet) !

If you find a solution, be sure to let us know.

[marineau]

Don't forget the 1-2 second delays that sometimes have to be inserted BETWEEN COMMANDs too - the CM15A (aka Edsel) ain't your grandma's CM11A (Chevrolet) !

Does you saying me that a CM11A is faster than CM15A ?

If you find a solution, be sure to let us know.

For increase a speed, I create my own programm (SDK) in VB6, and I modified my CM15A to ignore RF signal.
I use a TM751to get RF Signal... with this solution I reduced a responds time from .5 sec.

[Brian H]

I would stay away from the LM465 to turn on and off the TM751. I don't think the TM751 and a dimming module maybe 100% OK.
TTA and others like the AM486 and have experience in using them..