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andrewg:
Just signed up for this forum after buying the X10 home security system.
I love it. I like the scalability, price, ease of set-up and use, and independence from monthly contracts.
One issue that is a bit problematic is the inability of the lamp modules to work with florescent bulbs. I understand why that are not compatible, but was wondering if there is another component, such as the appliance module, that can be used with this type of lighting.
Thanks again for any help or suggestions,
Andrew
JeffVolp:
--- Quote ---One issue that is a bit problematic is the inability of the lamp modules to work with florescent bulbs. I understand why that are not compatible, but was wondering if there is another component, such as the appliance module, that can be used with this type of lighting.
--- End quote ---
Many people use appliance modules for compact fluorescent lights (CFLs). Some report flickering when off due to the slight current provided by the sense circuit. Here we use standard lamp modules, but only ON or OFF unless the CFL is designed for dimming. More info on how to deal with CFLs can be found here:
http://jvde.us/x10/x10_cfls.htm
Jeff
andrewg:
Jeff,
Thanks for the quick response.
I currently installed FEIT Electric 60 watt ECObulbs all over the house. (Upon closed inspection of the packaging, these are made in China).
As it appears that you are the expert in this field, will I be out-of-luck, or can I use appliance modules with these bulbs?
Thanks again,
Andrew
JeffVolp:
I don't think there are any "experts" in the field. We are all learning as the technology evolves.
There are a couple of issues to consider with the appliance module:
1) The electrical noise produced by some CFLs can prevent reliable X10 communication. If so, it is necessary to add filters to prevent the noise from reaching the powerline. I have not used the ECObulbs myself, but perhaps someone else will share their experience with them.
2) X10 lamp and appliance modules both have a sense circuit so that toggling the switch on the lamp will cause the module to switch on. While this small amount of current is not an issue with incandescent bulbs, it can provide enough power for a CFL to try to start, and it may flicker or glow dimly. The sense circuit can be disabled by snipping a component inside the module if this is a problem. Instructions to do that can be found elsewhere on this forum.
The CFLs we bought most recently were the n:vision ones sold by HomeDepot. They work fine with ordinary lamp modules, and require no filtering.
Jeff
TakeTheActive:
--- Quote from: andrewg on July 14, 2007, 11:20:27 AM ---
...As it appears that you are the expert in this field...
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--- Quote from: JeffVolp on July 14, 2007, 11:40:48 AM ---
I don't think there are any "experts" in the field. We are all learning as the technology evolves.
--- End quote ---
Don't let him kid you - Jeff is an X10 Pioneer (see: NEWSGROUP: Comp.Home.Automation (Read 8740 times)) and we're all very pleased to have him here sharing his vast X10 knowledge daily, initially as a Member and more recently as a Forum Moderator (Powerline Control Reliability) and Community Organizer .
After a bit of " pleading / whing / nagging " (from another 'unnamed' CO), his excellent X10 Tutorial Series took off and just kept growing and improving:
JV Digital Engineering's X10 Troubleshooting Tutorials Series
Jeff has also asked for FEEDBACK and tells me, to-date, he's received NONE! >:(
Come on folks - this is EXCELLENT information that took personal time to assemble!!
If it weren't for the tireless efforts of the handful of VOLUNTEERS here, where would YOU be? :-\
And don't forget to give Jeff his well-deserved Helpful when you solve your problem(s).Have you MAPPED out your circuits yet?
As an X10 Newbie, for a solid foundation of X10 Operation, along with the Tutorials, spend some time reading:
MAP / MEASURE / CORRECT - be sure to read the EXCELLENT articles written by JeffVolp and Puck and:
TTA's X10 Troubleshooting Tips Thread [Updated: 2007/03/05] (Read 7334 times)
Welcome to the forums and be sure to keep it light and have fun! :D
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