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[Rabbit]

I've been involved with X10 since the 80's, and have recently added a DS7000 system. I've figured out macros, and struggled to get things working right. I read here in the forum about someone here not transceiving ANY codes at all - so, I stopped transceiving any house codes in AHP. Everything seem to work fine without any housecodes being transceived. The only exception is a LM15A (Socket Rocket) which doesn't respond to the remotes. If I transceive HC-A (all my lights are on HC-A), then the LM15A (socket rocket) HC-A8 works fine and turns on and off via a remote - BUT I can not dim any light anywhere using the remote. When I stop transceiving HC-A, I can dim the lights using the remote but I can't control the socket rocket via remote.

Just to add some additonal info, I just added 3 TM751's  just for fun as an experiment - HC-F,G, and P (they are NOT transceived) and haven't had any problems. All my remotes work, and all dimmers work correctly. It appears to be a stable setup. I did the CM15A F-Connector modification and used a 20db gain amplifier which really helped solve rhe RF problems.

So my question is... Why transceive any HC's at all? The only HC that AHP automatically transceives is HC-M (my macros). I set my Hardware Configuration to "None", and the macros work without being transceived. I have nothing transceived at all right now - and everthing appears to work correctly.

Any suggestions on the LM15A socket rocket problem?

Cheers!

[Walt2]

I have all the Transceiver house codes disabled in my AHP/CM15A for two reasons.  First, the CM15A has a rather poor design, RF wise.  Second, the CM15A does not appear to be "Smart Repeater" cooperative.

Instead, I have an old CM14A, from old beta test days, which I continue to use for just its much better multi-house code transceiver.

As to my AHP/CM15A, it still "sees" all the RF commands, and executes them appropriately, but of course "sees" them as Power Line commands from the CM14A.

[Rabbit]

It's a tough crowd here!

Perhaps more info would help get an answer. Here is my current configuration:



M1-M16 = Macros

X10 Settings 5/20/2008

A1  - WS467 Front Porch                                 
A2  - LM465 Rabbit Lamp - Entry Hall                 
A3  - LM465 Living Room Tables & Floor Lamp           
A4  - WS467 Deck Light                               
A5  - LM465 Guest Bedroom Floor Lamp                 
A6  - LM465 MBR Bedside                               
A7  - LM465 MBR Corner                               
A8  - LM15A Rabbits Computer Lamp                      
A9  - AM466 Garage Flourescent Lamps                 
A10 - AM466 Garage Front Flourescent                 
A11 - AM486 MBR Night Light                           
A12 - UM506 Garage Door Control Plugged into AM486 P16 Failsafe & M7 Security Macro 
A13 - AM486 Dining Room Stereo                       
A14 - AM486 Living Room Stereo                       
A15 - SC18A Camera - Temporary (Feeds VA11A)
A16 - PS561 (DS7000 Security Console) & PH508/SH10A Powerhorns

B1  - DS10A Front Door                             
B2  - DS10A Kitchen Door                           
B3  - DS10A Living Rm LT W.S.                     
B4  - DS10A Back Door                             
B5  - DS10A Guest Bedroom W.S.                     
B6  - DS10A Master BR W.S.
B7  - DS10A Living Room RT W.S.
B8  - DS10A Comp.Room W.S.
B9  - DS10A Garage Door
B10 - DS10A Kitchen Sink W.S.
B11 - DS10A Dining Room W.S.
B12 - DS10A Storage Shed
B13 - MS10A Dining Room Sensor
B14 - MS10A Entry Sensor
B15 - KR10A Keychain Remote 1
B16 - KR10A Keychain Remote 2

C1  - KR10A Keychain Remote 3
C2  - KR10A Keychain Remote 4
C3  - SH624 Main Remote Entry Hall
C4  - SH624 Main Remote MBR

F1  - TM751
F7  - PSC01 PowerFlash & SC546A Chime & Relay Modified Motion Sensor/Floodlight

G1  - TM751
G15 - WS467 Kitchen Door/Garage Lights & MS14A Motion Sensor
G16 - LM465 - Not Used - Dummy (For MS14A + 1)

M1  - Alarm Arm 1    Uses B15 - KR10A Keychain Remote 1
M2  - Alarm Arm 2    Uses B16 - KR10A Keychain Remote 2
M3  - Alarm Disarm 1 Uses B15 - KR10A Keychain Remote 1
M4  - Alarm Disarm 2 Uses B16 - KR10A Keychain Remote 2
M5  - Garage Door Open & Front Porch Light Off - Daytime
M6  - Garage Door Open & Front Porch Light On  - Nightime
M7  - Garage Door Security - Uses A12 UM506 & P16 AM486 (Alarm System Armed Disables Garage Door Opening)
M8  - Homelink Arm    (Programmed Using SH624 - C3)
M9  - Homelink Disarm (Programmed Using SH624 - C3)
M10 - Back  Door/Deck Light On   - DS10A B4 Trigger
M11 - Back  Door/Deck Light Off  - DS10A B4 Closed
M12 - Front Door/Light On          - DS10A B1 Trigger
M13 - Front Door/Light Off          - DS10A B1 Closed
M14 - Garage Light On                - DS10A B2 Trigger
M15 - Garage Light Off                - DS10A B2 Closed
M16 - Storage Shed & Chime SC546A F7

P1  - TM751
P16 - AM486 Garage Door Failsafe (UM506 - A12 Garage Door Control & M7 Security Macro)                                     

[dave w]

Based on your May 18th description, you must be using something besides the CM15A to tranceive the "A" HC. You usually do not want to use two tranceivers on the same HC. Since you have modded the CM15A to  improved the range problem, unplug the redundant HC "A" tranceiver (another TM751?) and see if the CM15A now DIMs the socket rocket. 

[Rabbit]

Based on your May 18th description, you must be using something besides the CM15A to tranceive the "A" HC. You usually do not want to use two tranceivers on the same HC. Since you have modded the CM15A to  improved the range problem, unplug the redundant HC "A" tranceiver (another TM751?) and see if the CM15A now DIMs the socket rocket. 

I agree that no two transceivers should be on the same HC. I do not have any transceiver on HC-A.  The CM15A/AHP does monitor HC-A. The only three TM751's are HC-F,G, and P.

Just for fun, I'll disconnect all three TM751's and see if I have any RF control or control of A8 (Socket Rocket). Turned off AHP, unplugged the CM15A, the USB cable, and batteries - let sit for about 30 seconds. Plugged in to wall, plugged in batteries, and reconnect USB. Started AHP - have not downloaded timers and macros to the interface. Nothing is being transceived in AHP.

With the above conditions and the TM751's disconnected, I can control A8 with HR12A. I can also turn on/off or dim any light using the HR12A.

When I try to transceive HC-A in AHP, I was able to dim lights, but macros started firing and other lights came on without being requested to with the HR12A. The system becomes unstable - strange events started happening. When I stop transceiving any HC, the system appears to be stable, and I can control lights and dimmers properly.

I did leave the TM751's registered in AHP HC-F,G,P even though they are physically disconnected.

The most stable settings are without any HC's being transceived in AHP - nothing - not even the macros are transceived.

Dave, I appreciate the help with A8 Socket Rocket. I am beginning to think that the location of the LM15A may be noisy, and will monitor the problem and report back. I'll try to relocate the electrical connection to isolate the LM15A from the equipment around it (computers, ect.)

I'll leave the TM751's out and see what happens. I'll leave the TM751's registered but disconnected in AHP for the time being. Everything seems to work properly and is stable without any HC's being transceived.

Which brings me back to the question - why transceive any HC's at all in AHP? If the remotes work without any HC's being transceived, then how are the RF remotes working? (I assume through the CM15A or the DS7000 - the only devices in the system with antennas)

It appears to me that the system becomes unstable and unreliable when I transceive HC-A in AHP.

EDIT: I failed to mention that I have the ACT-234 phase coupler installed in my system and it is set to the default settings.

Cheers!

[Brian H]

The DS7000 is it set to "A"? It also will transceive RF signals from the house code it is set to; from things like a HR12A palm pad.

[Rabbit]

Yes, the DS7000 is set to HC-A (A16). Thx Brian. That explains the RF Remotes working.

Any reason to transceive housecodes in AHP???

Cheers!

[dave w]

Yes, the DS7000 is set to HC-A (A16). Thx Brian. That explains the RF Remotes working.

Any reason to transceive housecodes in AHP???

Cheers!

Nope, other than you put all that work in modding the CM15A and if your results are like mine, it now outperforms my TM751's 

[Rabbit]

So correct me if I'm wrong - the DS7000 is what makes everything work right now, and the CM15A doesn't add any value with respect to the RF remotes because nothing is transceived in AHP.  Is there any reason why I shouldn't use the TM751's?  (Does it buy me anything using them, or should I be concerned).

I wonder why the system becomes flaky and unstable when transceiving HC-A in AHP.... 

Thx for your help and expertise.

Cheers!

[Brian H]

One thing about the TM751 is it is not polite. As it has no power line receiver in it. It can not see X10 signals on the line. So it transmits when it see an X10 code and will step on any other X10 signal in progress. If stepping on other signals is not a problem in your system. That may not be a factor.