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msmendel

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virtual keyboards
« on: January 02, 2010, 01:04:23 PM »

I use Wivik or Click N Type or Windows' virtual keyboards.  They can't enter text on Active Home Pro.    Any ideas?
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Re: virtual keyboards
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2010, 05:37:01 PM »

You can only use AHP through Windows and it does not accept text.  AHP is built only to accept what is done through it.
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Re: virtual keyboards
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2010, 07:02:35 PM »

I'm confused.  I'm typing this with a virtual keyboard, and I'm using Windows.  But I can't rename rooms or modules, etc. using one.

I can enter text in all my other apps.

« Last Edit: January 02, 2010, 07:05:51 PM by msmendel »
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« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2010, 10:24:20 AM »

Apparently there's a bug in AHP (probably from the very first issue of AHP) that won't allow a non-connected keyboard to post text in it. I suspect the problem never came up before.

You can go to WalMart and buy a regular keyboard for about 20 bucks and every PC ever built has a keyboard port.
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Re: virtual keyboards
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2010, 12:20:33 PM »

Thank you.  Unfortunately, due to ALS, I can't use my hands or fingers to type, so I rely on a virtual keyboard.
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« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2010, 05:50:35 PM »

Apparently there's a bug in AHP (probably from the very first issue of AHP) that won't allow a non-connected keyboard to post text in it. I suspect the problem never came up before.
Dan, a program (AHP or whatever) should not have a care in the world whether the input it gets is from a physical or a virtual keyboard.  A virtual keyboard should activate the same interrupts and act the same as a keyboard that is directly connected to the machine.  It could be an issue with the Wivik driver/software.

You can go to WalMart and buy a regular keyboard for about 20 bucks and every PC ever built has a keyboard port.


Not true, and just to clarify.  Older computers (mostly pentium 3s and up) pretty much had standard PS2 (the small round connector) keyboard and mouse ports on them, but not so much anymore.  PS2 technology is being phased out.  Many of your newer computers bought today come standard with USB keyboards and mice and don't even have PS2 ports on them.  Heck I started on computers when there were no standards.  Many of the early 8086 computers used a large DIN serial connector (round connector bigger than the small round PS2 connectors).  Not that we need to date back that far since anything less than a pentium 3 these days would be somewhat useless for anything discussed in these forums.   

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« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2010, 07:16:08 PM »

Apparently there's a bug in AHP (probably from the very first issue of AHP) that won't allow a non-connected keyboard to post text in it. I suspect the problem never came up before.
Dan, a program (AHP or whatever) should not have a care in the world whether the input it gets is from a physical or a virtual keyboard.  A virtual keyboard should activate the same interrupts and act the same as a keyboard that is directly connected to the machine.  It could be an issue with the Wivik driver/software.

You can go to WalMart and buy a regular keyboard for about 20 bucks and every PC ever built has a keyboard port.


Not true, and just to clarify.  Older computers (mostly pentium 3s and up) pretty much had standard PS2 (the small round connector) keyboard and mouse ports on them, but not so much anymore.  PS2 technology is being phased out.  Many of your newer computers bought today come standard with USB keyboards and mice and don't even have PS2 ports on them.  Heck I started on computers when there were no standards.  Many of the early 8086 computers used a large DIN serial connector (round connector bigger than the small round PS2 connectors).  Not that we need to date back that far since anything less than a pentium 3 these days would be somewhat useless for anything discussed in these forums.   

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As to your comment, it was the OP who posted that his wireless keyboard would not enter text (like rename a module from the AHP default) and NOBODY before ever posted that problem.  Therefore it must be an unfound/undocumented bug in AHP from Day One.     
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Re: virtual keyboards
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2010, 07:20:31 PM »

Just to clarify, it's a virtual keyboard, not wireless.
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Re: virtual keyboards
« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2010, 07:33:06 PM »

Vivik has a free 30 day trial download.  I am in the process of downloading it now to see if I can replicate this issue, but the download is 233MB so it may take a while...  Seems like quite a large file for a virtual keyboard.

Knightrider, I was not thinking this was a wireless keyboard, but thanks for the clarification for others.

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« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2010, 07:59:43 PM »

How does a "virtual keyboard" work?  Is it connected to the PC in any way?
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« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2010, 08:07:02 PM »

It's an onscreen keyboard that is usually operated by moving a mouse and clicking.

Higher end virtual keyboards can be operated with a variety of switching techniques (like single hand/finger keyboards) and even 'puff & sip' pressure switching devices for the severely physically challenged.
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« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2010, 08:08:46 PM »

I have downloaded and installed the 30 day trial version of Vivik.  BTW it also installs a speech engine which I am guessing is why the file was so large.  I went into AHP and tried editing a module.  I was able to type in any of the text boxes using Vivik.  I then went to one of my rooms and double clicked on the name header of one of my modules.  I was also able to type in there.  

msmendel, you may want to check in your windows device manager (Start > control panel > system, hardware tab at top, device manager button) see if there are any yellow exclamations next to any devices.  It sounds like there is possibly a driver conflict that may be giving you grief.

Dan L., a virtual keyboard is not a device that connects to the computer.  It is a software based keyboard that runs on the machine and acts like a normal keyboard.  People with disabilities like msmendel can control these with a mouse, joystick, track ball or other device to move the mouse and click on the virtual keys.  Whatever is typed is entered into the system just as if it were typed on a physical keyboard.

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« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2010, 08:21:52 PM »

Thanks for the information. Sounds like you are satisfied, now to get the full version of Vivik.
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« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2010, 12:48:26 PM »

I got this response from tech support:

" I was able to replicate your issue here; I have passed it along to the development team, so it should be addressed in the next software release. ..."

Apparently,  it is a software problem.

Thanks all.
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Re: virtual keyboards
« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2010, 04:35:01 PM »

dbemowsk What version of AHP are you running?
I can't get windows on screen keyboard to edit module names either.
Maybe msmendel has a different AHP version and a simple down grade (I suspect) of AHP would cure his issue ???!
Waiting for a simple AHP update Can take years! rofl
 
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