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eagle

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Another plug-in passive phase coupler option
« on: February 24, 2010, 08:12:54 AM »

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned here before.

Just saw this on amazon.com.

http://www.amazon.com/Simply-Automated-ZPCI-P50A-Universal-Coupler/dp/B00152PZ3E/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=hi&qid=1266953372&sr=1-1

Not as cheap as the box version from Signalinc.  What you lose in price you gain in its streamlined size, i.e., you don't have to move the dryer forward. 

Just thought I'd post it as an option. 

Has anyone here tried it?

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Re: Another plug-in passive phase coupler option
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2010, 08:19:16 AM »

If you dryer outlet is a NEMA 10-50P 50 Amp Plug. This could be an option.
My dryer is the NEMA 10-30P and it would not fit my dryer outlet.
Not sure how well it would be with X10 as it is designed for UPB but also passes X10.
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Re: Another plug-in passive phase coupler option
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2010, 08:45:55 AM »

Thanks Brian.

I just learned something there.

Here's a link to different NEMA plug configurations:
http://www.frentzandsons.com/Hardware%20References/plugandreceptacleconfiguratio.htm

I'm almost 100% sure, my dryer is also a NEMA 10-30P as shown on the link above.

Here's the NEMA 10-30P version of that device:
http://www.amazon.com/Simply-Automated-ZPCI-P30A-Universal-Coupler/dp/B00152RJUQ/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=hi&qid=1267018740&sr=1-4

Reading the description, it says that it also boosts the signals.  If that is the case, then it could be a good solution or cheaper alternative to the Signalinc plug in coupler/repeater (http://www.smarthome.com/4826B/SignaLinc-3-Pin-Plug-in-Coupler-Repeater/p.aspx)... $69 vs $99.

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Re: Another plug-in passive phase coupler option
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2010, 08:50:43 AM »

Yes if it has the Neutral Pin as a 90 degree bent one. It most likely is a 10-30P
I have seen a combination 10-30P 10-50P plug. Comes with two Neutral pins and you snap the needed one into the front of the shell.
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Re: Another plug-in passive phase coupler option
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2010, 12:32:12 PM »

If it only 'boosts' with a 5v output then its pretty much useless

I have the xtb-iir which uses a 25v x10 signal output (am i correct?) and there are still a couple of 'x10 dead' outlets in my house which is only 2000-2500 sq/ft
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Re: Another plug-in passive phase coupler option
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2010, 01:36:17 PM »

Wow!  You must have a lot of signal suckers on the lines that feed those outlets.

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Re: Another plug-in passive phase coupler option
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2010, 01:37:44 PM »

Wow!  You must have a lot of signal suckers on the lines that feed those outlets.

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I do have good filters on all the computer and a/v equipment, except the living room. The 'head of household' did not like having a filter on his high-end stereo equipment..it affected the sound  B:(
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Re: Another plug-in passive phase coupler option
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2010, 01:58:32 PM »

eagle; Even X10 two way modules can act as a signal sucker. The transmitter when not sending absorbs the signals.
I found one even worse signal sucker than the six two way modules I have on one circuit.
The old X10 compatible Smarthome one way receive only modules. Absorbed all kinds of power line signals. Turns out that to save a few cents. They eliminated the nice tuned circuit using a transformer. For a generic series cap and coil across the pads for the receivers transformer and tuning capacitor mounted.

I posted my signal findings in another thread, but removing the six modules went from about 1 volt from my XTB-IIR to >9.99 volts the maximum the XTBM meter can read.
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Re: Another plug-in passive phase coupler option
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2010, 02:39:55 PM »

Pomprocker, that's a lost cause then.  :(

Brian, I remember that thread.  Excellent thread in fact.

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