AHP misses turn on turnoff times randomly

lb110 · January 31, 2011, 03:37:29 PM

My system has been operating very well for about six years. Recently it started to miss on the turn on turn off on some timers. When I attempted to change the times by a few minutes nothing would take effect. I replaced the batteries in the CM15A but that did not help. I set it up to turn one lanp on and off at 5 minute intervals three times. It worked the first time and then didn't turn on again. this kind of thing has been happening on other timers as well. My one macro never misses. Ideas?

Dan Lawrence · January 31, 2011, 05:42:33 PM

What version of AHP are you running? Any plug-ins?

lb110 · January 31, 2011, 06:57:07 PM

Quote from: Dan Lawrence on January 31, 2011, 05:42:33 PM
What version of AHP are you running? Any plug-ins?

Hi, I have version 3.186 running. I don't think there are any plug ins.

Dan Lawrence · January 31, 2011, 08:19:20 PM

3.186 is so old, it isn't funny. If it still works, OK. Now on to the next question: Any new electronics? Also, any filters on the PC running AHP? Today (2011) you really need a filter on any PC, they create noise by themselves that blocks X10 signals.

Noam · January 31, 2011, 09:16:29 PM

Quote from: Dan Lawrence on January 31, 2011, 08:19:20 PM
... Any new electronics? ...

Also, check for a failing CFL. You might want to try turning off all your CFLs, and see if that makes a difference. If that helps, then turn them back on one at a time, until you find one that stops it from working.

Tuicemen · February 01, 2011, 10:33:28 AM

You might want to check to be sure the security option isn't checked in the timers as well.
this will cause timer variations to occur.

lb110 · February 01, 2011, 10:41:55 AM

Good Morning. I have another unusual occurance on my system. I have one module programmed to turn on at 8:AM. It almost always turns on a 7:AM. I have reset the time and downloaded the work but this still happens. I have no CFL's on when this happens and the module is in the same room as the CM15A. By the way all modules operate properly using the manual controls. I was hoping someone would think that I have a bad CM15A!

troll334 · February 01, 2011, 10:52:37 AM

Have you checked the AHP Activity Log for entries between, say 0630 and 0900?
It will be helpful to know what immediately preceeded the module turning on...
Further, you might consider making a macro, including the device in the macro,
removing the timer from the device, and creating the timer on the macro.
The macro should fire on the timer. It then will turn on your device.
Those entires in the log will help us. And please make certain PC time, time zone,
CM15 time and CM15 time zone are all correct. I know...just double-check anyway.

Noam · February 01, 2011, 11:00:09 AM

Have you verified that the TIME ZONE on your PC is correct?

lb110 · February 01, 2011, 11:19:40 AM

HI, The activity log for the timer shows no 7:AM entrys. The entry for this morning shows 8:02a send (it went on around 7:00am), Also (in red) it shows extended code 3.3b. This appears two more times earlier on the list. All other timers. when they work are close to the set time. Are we getting any closer to a solution? Wayne

troll334 · February 01, 2011, 01:17:03 PM

Hmmm, certainly does sound like noise on the powerline or maybe an RF-based X10 device
sending an On command at the same house-code/unit code... Do you have any Active/Eagle Eye
motion sensors or X10 remotes. I know it's not likely since the false On comes at roughly the same
time each day but...
And are you certain you don't have any other timers, macros, conditions that can trip that device?
Bear with us while we dig deeper...

lb110 · February 01, 2011, 02:55:24 PM

Okay, At first I just looked at the log for the affected module. Now I have looked at the log for all the modules. I see appearing at various times an RF activity shown as unknown and as P16. a house code and number that I don't use. This has not been logged at or around the time of my module coming on early. I have no hand held remotes for X10. Would a tv remote do it? Wayne

Noam · February 01, 2011, 03:04:14 PM

Quote from: lb110 on February 01, 2011, 02:55:24 PM
Okay, At first I just looked at the log for the affected module. Now I have looked at the log for all the modules. I see appearing at various times an RF activity shown as unknown and as P16. a house code and number that I don't use. This has not been logged at or around the time of my module coming on early. I have no hand held remotes for X10. Would a tv remote do it? Wayne

As I recall, older versions used to show a "RF P16 Unknown" when the CM15A started up. I don't remember if it was from the PC booting, and connecting to the CM15A, or just if you disconnected and reconnected the USB cable.

Can you correlate any of the "P16" events you are seeing to times when the PC was rebooted?

lb110 · February 01, 2011, 03:15:12 PM

Hi Noam, You are right. The RF's show up when I shut off the computer and reboot it Wayne

Noam · February 01, 2011, 03:20:14 PM

Okay.
So let me make sure I understand this.
You have one time that is not working properly, all of the others are fine?
What type of module is that one?
Are you still running AHP 3.186?
The timer is turning the light on exactly one hour EARLY, correct?

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