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[tom j]

You may tell him. Many of these things where also in the Radio Shack 49-1000MC console they made in late 2004 and never corrected.

If you do a search of the forums for 49-1000.
Reverse order if you want to see the older ones first.
Powerhorns where reported way back then.
The SC1200 is not updated much from the older 49-1000MC.

Anything else you want addressed how about the limited amount of lights that will flash limited to two per address. And if anyone else has concerns let me know.


Tom j.

[Brian H]

Well if they went back to All Lights On and All Units Off like the older console.
Powerhorn problems would go away. Including brief beep when armed that some are finding.

IMHO. Your concerns are going to fall on Deaf Ears and nothing is going to change.
RS owners all cried about the samethings. The SC1200A where they had a chance to fix things. Didn't happen.

[vlong]

Brian H,

Got the new Unit SC1200 Today had the same problem so the problem has to be PH508.

[Brian H]

I am sure it is a combination. The SC1200 sends out on and off commands to the Light Codes.
Some PH508s react too fast and make the noise. If the SC1200 sent out the All Lights On and All Units off like the old console. You could set the PH508 to an unused unit code. It would not sound on an arm but still sound with the All Lights On All Units Off cycles.

[dave w]

Maybe this has already been mentioned but for you PowerHorn lovers, you could use a PowerFlash to activate PowerHorns. Just need to find a trigger source in the SC1200, and kiss your warrenties good bye. I bet Brian H already has a PowerFlash trigger pinpointed.

[vlong]

I am sure it is a combination. The SC1200 sends out on and off commands to the Light Codes.
Some PH508s react too fast and make the noise. If the SC1200 sent out the All Lights On and All Units off like the old console. You could set the PH508 to an unused unit code. It would not sound on an arm but still sound with the All Lights On All Units Off cycles.

If i set to different Unit code will get no sound. SC1200 and PH508 must set to the same HouseCode and the same Unit Code to have sound but the only problem was i have listen to the friken sound for the moment when press Arm home or Arm away. Now i have no idea

[Brian H]

Yes I remember your problem.
My older 2002-2005 PH508 units do not sound when armed and trigger properly with a SC1200 alarm.

Both of my 2010 PH508 units also do not sound when the SC1200 is armed but during an alarm they are not 100% of what I expected. Four hi low siren sounds then a ten second pause. Then four more hi low sounds and another ten second pause.

Your 08G13 and 09A03 ones seem to be triggering with a single on off command when armed.

How would a new PH508 work for you as an option? Not to costly from some of the online dealers.
I don't honestly know if it would be a solution for you. As it seems signal timing is very critical when a SC1200 and PH508 are used together.

[Brian H]

dave w; If we triggered a Powerflash to send the All Units Off All Lights On command cycles. I was thinking we could have signal collisions.
The Powerflash is not polite and I am almost 100% sure the SC1200 isn't. If it is still sending the On Off cycles to the Light Codes and the Powerflash the All Lights On All Units Off commands at the same time.

[dave w]

dave w; If we triggered a Powerflash to send the All Units Off All Lights On command cycles. I was thinking we could have signal collisions.
The Powerflash is not polite and I am almost 100% sure the SC1200 isn't. If it is still sending the On Off cycles to the Light Codes and the Powerflash the All Lights On All Units Off commands at the same time.

OOPS!     

Yes, you would have signal collisions. Brain was not properly warmed up when that idea festered. 

[tom j]

Well if they went back to All Lights On and All Units Off like the older console.
Powerhorn problems would go away. Including brief beep when armed that some are finding.

IMHO. Your concerns are going to fall on Deaf Ears and nothing is going to change.
RS owners all cried about the samethings. The SC1200A where they had a chance to fix things. Didn't happen.

Well I'm hoping your wrong and they will address these issues I mean if they want to sell these things seems like they would want to get it right, but then again we are dealing with x10. 


Tom j.

[vlong]

Yes I remember your problem.
My older 2002-2005 PH508 units do not sound when armed and trigger properly with a SC1200 alarm.

Both of my 2010 PH508 units also do not sound when the SC1200 is armed but during an alarm they are not 100% of what I expected. Four hi low siren sounds then a ten second pause. Then four more hi low sounds and another ten second pause.

Your 08G13 and 09A03 ones seem to be triggering with a single on off command when armed.

How would a new PH508 work for you as an option? Not to costly from some of the online dealers.
I don't honestly know if it would be a solution for you. As it seems signal timing is very critical when a SC1200 and PH508 are used together.

well'i don't know if i try another or new PH508 may have the same problem with out knowing for sure.

[tom j]

Brian seeing that you have first hand experience with the powerhorns how would you describe the problems that way I can just past it in the email and I won't miss anything. I'll post the reply, Thanks!!



Tom j.

[Brian H]

See attached.

The problems in my rough tests show hardware version seems to play a role in how they act.

I don't have any of the Powerhorns that are reported to sound briefly when the console is armed home or away.
The ones that could get very annoying fast. 

I also don't have any that didn't trigger at all, but others here are having no trigger problems.

[tom j]

See attached.

The problems in my rough tests show hardware version seems to play a role in how they act.

I don't have any of the Powerhorns that are reported to sound briefly when the console is armed home or away.
The ones that could get very annoying fast. 

I also don't have any that didn't trigger at all, but others here are having no trigger problems.

Ok I can include that in the email but let me get this straight there appears to be some compatibility issues. And are you saying that with some people the large power horns works perfectly? you said some people are having no trigger problems. Just not sure I understand and I want to make sure before I send this email off. Thanks

Tom j.

[Brian H]

All depends on the Powerhorns Date Code. Things have changed over the years.
My real old ones are 100% OK.
Both my 2010 models trigger but are not a constant the normal  high low sound. They sound four cycles then stop for ten seconds. Then again four more high low tones. Then stop again for ten seconds.

We have two threads here where arming the console causes the Powerhorn to sound and it should NOT sound on an arm action.

We also have a thread where even when set to a light code as required. They never get a siren sound, but I had then send the codes with the keypad and the Powerhorn DID sound!