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tom j

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MS18A Red LED
« on: October 18, 2011, 07:52:02 PM »
Hi guys my sister just bought a few of these to go with her PS561 system but noticed the the LED is now GREEN opposed to red how strange never saw a motion detector with a green LED just wondering who's bright idea this was typical x10 just missing the mark, she wanted me to ask if she might be able to change the color to red maybe with some nail polish to match the others.  :-\    :P


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Re: MS18A Red LED
« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2011, 12:17:03 PM »
X10 probably ran out of red LEDs for their final production run (hey it could happen). Nail polish will just cover the LED completely so no light will be seen. Pretty hard to change green light to red light. About the only answer is to change the LED itself.

http://www.allelectronics.com/make-a-store/item/MLED-7/T1-RED-LED-POINT-SOURCE/1.html
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Brian H

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Re: MS18A Red LED
« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2011, 12:38:38 PM »
The Green LED is probably made with Green Plastic. So nail polish, as dave w mentioned, would cover it or depending on the plastic, maybe melt it.
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Re: MS18A Red LED
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2011, 03:39:25 PM »
I had a chance to look at one of my MS18A Motion Sensors. As right now they are in a storage container.
My Date Code 10L52 also has a Green LED and it is Green plastic.
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Re: MS18A Red LED
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2011, 05:44:03 PM »

You also have to consider that unlike an incandescent bulb, LED emission is monochromatic.  A colored filter works with an incandescent bulb because the entire spectrum is generated by the white-hot filament.  Since the green LED only emits the green wavelength, adding a red filter (which would only pass the red wavelength) would block any light at all.

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tom j

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Re: MS18A Red LED
« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2011, 11:10:01 AM »
Quote from: dave w on October 19, 2011, 12:17:03 PM
X10 probably ran out of red LEDs for their final production run (hey it could happen). Nail polish will just cover the LED completely so no light will be seen. Pretty hard to change green light to red light. About the only answer is to change the LED itself.

http://www.allelectronics.com/make-a-store/item/MLED-7/T1-RED-LED-POINT-SOURCE/1.html

Thanks guys was starting to think no one was going to help Thanks!! Well say what about the door sensors are they green to on the new tamper resistant ones shes thinking about buying a few of those to kind of stocking up in case x10 bits the dust. Hay sure hope not but better safe the sorry.

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Re: MS18A Red LED
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2011, 01:28:57 PM »
Nobody was going to help?
There where two responses to your question in around 24 hours.  ???

DS12A X10 Door/Window Sensor LED is Green.

Green LEDs have been used for awhile.

The OEM from X10 for the  Radio Shack 49-1000 Security Console kit also used Green LEDs.
The Radio Shack 49-1001 DS11A Door/Window Sensor was Green LED.
The Radio Shack 49-1003 MS17A Security Motion Sensor was Green LED.
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Re: MS18A Red LED
« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2011, 08:26:09 PM »
Quote from: tom j on October 26, 2011, 11:10:01 AM

Well say what about the door sensors are they green to on the new tamper resistant ones shes thinking about buying a few of those to kind of stocking up in case x10 bits the dust.
Not sure what you are trying to say there Tom. But just tell sis she got one of the new "X10 Saves the Earth" green models.   :'
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Re: MS18A Red LED
« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2011, 02:09:26 PM »
Quote from: Brian H on October 26, 2011, 01:28:57 PM
Nobody was going to help?
There where two responses to your question in around 24 hours.  ???

DS12A X10 Door/Window Sensor LED is Green.

Green LEDs have been used for awhile.

The OEM from X10 for the  Radio Shack 49-1000 Security Console kit also used Green LEDs.
The Radio Shack 49-1001 DS11A Door/Window Sensor was Green LED.
The Radio Shack 49-1003 MS17A Security Motion Sensor was Green LED.


Hmm maybe I was mistaken and got this forum confused with another one well I'll check but anyway thanks for all the help I really depend on the folks on this forum to give me a hand from time, that's why I always try to help out when ever I can fantastic group of people one of my favorite forums.  #:)  >!


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Re: MS18A Red LED
« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2011, 02:13:00 PM »
Quote from: dave w on October 26, 2011, 08:26:09 PM
Quote from: tom j on October 26, 2011, 11:10:01 AM

Well say what about the door sensors are they green to on the new tamper resistant ones shes thinking about buying a few of those to kind of stocking up in case x10 bits the dust.
Not sure what you are trying to say there Tom. But just tell sis she got one of the new "X10 Saves the Earth" green models.   :'

Sorry should have given the product number I was talking about the new DA12A window/door sensors with tamper resistance, do they also have the green LEDs Thanks again guys!!

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Re: MS18A Red LED
« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2011, 06:16:34 PM »
Yes the DS12A has a Green LED.
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Re: MS18A Red LED
« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2011, 11:39:13 PM »
Quote from: Brian H on October 27, 2011, 06:16:34 PM
Yes the DS12A has a Green LED.


Hi thanks, So the green LED is actually by design then and not a production error as someone else thought.

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Re: MS18A Red LED
« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2011, 07:10:22 AM »
Yes by design and they where also Green in the Radio Shack 49-1000 series made a few years back by X10. That look similar to the present ones.
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Re: MS18A Red LED
« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2011, 11:23:01 PM »
Quote from: Brian H on November 02, 2011, 07:10:22 AM
Yes by design and they where also Green in the Radio Shack 49-1000 series made a few years back by X10. That look similar to the present ones.

Hi just saw your response wonder why GREEN  ???  B:(  never seen a sensor that was green they have always been red just wonder why they decided to go with green that usually indicates sometime positive I would associate RED with a violation of an area.

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Re: MS18A Red LED
« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2011, 11:44:11 PM »
Quote from: tom j on November 05, 2011, 11:23:01 PM
Quote from: Brian H on November 02, 2011, 07:10:22 AM
Yes by design and they where also Green in the Radio Shack 49-1000 series made a few years back by X10. That look similar to the present ones.

Hi just saw your response wonder why GREEN  ???  B:(  never seen a sensor that was green they have always been red just wonder why they decided to go with green that usually indicates sometime positive I would associate RED with a violation of an area.

Tom j.

Knowing X10's history of cutting corners, my guess is the green LED was cheaper than the red one.
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