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Brian H

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Re: CM11A versus CM15A signal output?
« Reply #15 on: October 09, 2016, 09:51:29 AM »

Are the timers downloaded into the CM15A or set to run from AHP running 24/7 on the computer?
If you downloaded the timers. Did you then move it to a new location?
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Re: CM11A versus CM15A signal output?
« Reply #16 on: October 09, 2016, 09:58:02 AM »

Are the timers downloaded into the CM15A or set to run from AHP running 24/7 on the computer?
If you downloaded the timers. Did you then move it to a new location?

Not sure I understand? When I download the DB to the interface (whether it is the CM11A or the CM15A), they should run from the interface after I disconnect the interface from the PC, that's the way the CM11A works, so I am assuming the CM15A works the same.

Now that said, I have noticed that there is one LM465 that seems to go bad periodically, and after I replace it, everything seems to work fine after that. This LM465 has a string of Christmas tree lights on it my wife uses for light at night. Wondering why this LM465 is always the one that goes bad?
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Brian H

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Re: CM11A versus CM15A signal output?
« Reply #17 on: October 09, 2016, 10:31:34 AM »

Here is the timer setup data from the X10 WIKI.
http://kbase.x10.com/wiki/Creating_A_Timer
You may want to verify the Store In Interface option is enabled.
Default is On but you may want to verify it any way.

If you are trying this on the CM11A and moved it from where it was plugged in. It may have lost its time and is waiting for the clock to be reset.
On the CM15A when disconnected from the computer. Don't leave the USB cable hanging freely off of the CM15As USB Port.
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Re: CM11A versus CM15A signal output?
« Reply #18 on: October 09, 2016, 12:08:45 PM »

Here is the timer setup data from the X10 WIKI.
http://kbase.x10.com/wiki/Creating_A_Timer
You may want to verify the Store In Interface option is enabled.
Default is On but you may want to verify it any way.

If you are trying this on the CM11A and moved it from where it was plugged in. It may have lost its time and is waiting for the clock to be reset.
On the CM15A when disconnected from the computer. Don't leave the USB cable hanging freely off of the CM15As USB Port.

Thanks Brian! :-)

I checked the setup list in the URL you provided, Store in Interface was checked, but I did not have "Repeat" checked, so I checked that also since this might alleviate the modules not turning on with only one command being sent. Does that work for both "on" commands as well as "off" commands?
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Re: CM11A versus CM15A signal output?
« Reply #19 on: October 09, 2016, 12:13:32 PM »

Also, I always "Clear Interface Memory" before I do a download.

For tonight I am going to leave AHP running and connected to the CM15A, let's see if that works? :-)
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Re: CM11A versus CM15A signal output?
« Reply #20 on: October 09, 2016, 12:31:12 PM »

When you configure using the CM15 is the cm11 connection checked disabled?
If not AHP may be trying to update the interface using a comport and not the USB needed for the cm15.
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Re: CM11A versus CM15A signal output?
« Reply #21 on: October 09, 2016, 02:23:31 PM »

When you configure using the CM15 is the cm11 connection checked disabled?
If not AHP may be trying to update the interface using a comport and not the USB needed for the cm15.

Yup, the CM11A is disabled.
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Re: CM11A versus CM15A signal output?
« Reply #22 on: October 10, 2016, 06:42:25 AM »

Well, last night worked, but not 100%.

I replaced the bad LM465. Quick review of what installed modules/codes and what happened last night:

- Using code A-12, 7 LM465 and one WS467 modules, don't have a separate WS467 module in the AHP DB setup, using the LM465 module to control ALL A-12 coded modules.
- Using code A-15, one LM465 module on a long run circuit.
- Last night ran AHP on the PC with the USB cable connected to the CM15A, but CM15A was not in the outlet closest to the circuit panel.
- At dusk I see in the AHP event log one "ON" command being sent out for codes A-12 and A-15 (100% brightness), but the WS467 did not turn on, all other modules (A-12 and A-15) did go on.
- At 11:30 I see 3 "OFF" commands being sent out for codes A-12 and A-15, A-15 module shut off, but none of the A-12 modules that were on shut off.

Tonight I plan on disconnecting the CM15A from the USB cable and moving it to the outlet closest to the circuit panel, no other changes to see what happens?

Why did the AHP/Interface only send one "ON" command even though I had "REPEAT" set in the AHP DB setup?
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Re: CM11A versus CM15A signal output?
« Reply #23 on: October 10, 2016, 10:56:45 AM »

With AHP running and the CM15A plugged into the PC, let the scheduled event occur.  Look at the logs to see if AHP saw traffic on PLC.  If you have the CM15A disconnected from your PC (I believe you said that was your intent) make sure that the check box for running the event on the controller is set.  It can be run from either the PC or the controller and if you have it set to AHP but the controller is not connected, it may not fire.

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Re: CM11A versus CM15A signal output?
« Reply #24 on: October 11, 2016, 07:38:19 AM »

Well, success last night! 99% of the lights went on at dusk, and they all went off as scheduled. This is with the CM15A disconnected from the PC plugged into the outlet closest to the circuit panel.

I had one LM465 that did not go on? It is on a circuit where the outlet is about 8' past where there is another LM465 that did go on?

I have not checked the activity log in the CM15A, but still have a question about the "REPEAT" not sending multiple commands for "ON" where I do see multiple commands for "OFF" being sent? Any reason that would work that way? I would assume that the interface should send both "ON" and "OFF" commands multiple times?

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Re: CM11A versus CM15A signal output?
« Reply #25 on: October 11, 2016, 07:48:45 AM »

Are both LM465s the same type?
Both Soft Start or both older before Soft Start?

In the Preferences Tab.
Macro Options.
Is the Issue 'On' in place of Bright 100% checked?
« Last Edit: October 11, 2016, 07:52:54 AM by Brian H »
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Re: CM11A versus CM15A signal output?
« Reply #26 on: October 11, 2016, 07:55:45 AM »

Are both LM465s the same type?
Both Soft Start or both older before Soft Start?

I checked the operation using the handheld remote this morning, the first LM465 looks like it is soft start (light came on slowly) where the one further down the circuit came on hard (just came on, not slowly).

Should I have 2 modules in the DB, one for newer LM465's (soft start) and another module for the older ones?

I did add a module for the WS467 since I have one of those outlet's which does give me trouble going on at times (seems like it needs more signal than the LM465's).
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Re: CM11A versus CM15A signal output?
« Reply #27 on: October 11, 2016, 09:24:28 AM »

If the X10 address for the LM465s was chosen from the Lamp Module Tab. Try using the X10 Address for the LM465 from the Old before Soft Start Tab. Both soft start and older ones should respond to the commands from that list.
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Re: CM11A versus CM15A signal output?
« Reply #28 on: October 20, 2016, 05:23:45 PM »

If the X10 address for the LM465s was chosen from the Lamp Module Tab. Try using the X10 Address for the LM465 from the Old before Soft Start Tab. Both soft start and older ones should respond to the commands from that list.

Not having issues withe LM465's, issue is with WS467.

As I said, the WS467 will go on when I "Turn All Lights ON" using the AHP connected to the CM15, but when the CM15 is not connected, does not turn on the WS467?
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Re: CM11A versus CM15A signal output?
« Reply #29 on: October 20, 2016, 06:30:19 PM »

Well the later WS476's are also Soft Start and have Preset Dim settings.
So it is also listed in both the Lamp and Older Lamp before Soft Start tabs.
Though I don't think this is you issue.
http://kbase.x10.com/wiki/Newer_Wall_Switches_and_Preset_Dim
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