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dhouston:

--- Quote from: dave w on June 03, 2019, 06:25:10 PM ---Gads, I might have to use a (gasp) light switch.
Actually I should get Homeseer voice control running, so if a "cloudburst" (sorry brobin, but that is too good not to plagiarize) does happen I can still have local voice control. I just got lazy with Alexa.

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I've used it about a dozen times in the past 4-5 years.

bkenobi:
Yes, all of that stuff is in the open.  We all know that NSA records everything.  I specifically was referring to my HA system which I manage on my network and access from anywhere I choose.  Not that I store anything interesting on it, but to my knowledge the NSA hasn't decided to break in and backup my drive.  More online presence with accounts managed on Chinese servers results in more data vulnerability and eventual loss.  We all understand that you have thrown up your hands to worrying about it and are now a prophet for giving up all PI.  I personally choose to use things in the way I want and not extend my exposure by opting not to buy useless toys that don't really add anything to what I want to do.  To each their own.   >!

HA Dave:

--- Quote from: bkenobi on July 03, 2019, 12:13:41 PM ---....... to my knowledge the NSA hasn't decided to break in and backup my drive.  More online presence with accounts managed on Chinese servers results in more data vulnerability and eventual loss.  We all understand that you have thrown up your hands to worrying about it and are now a prophet for giving up all PI. 
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I see this on the news all the time anymore. It seems to be a generational belief.... that so many now think they can read other peoples minds. I am admittedly mystified.... not just by your misconception as to my thoughts.... but what makes you think you have to ability to know my thoughts.

But..... that/this current concept is the exact popular belief that humans can somehow "break the human algorithm". And understand the very thoughts and beliefs of mass human behavior.... and therefore control an entire population. It was the use of such government mind-control resources.... that allowed the previous administration the throw the election to Hillary Clinton. So.... we know it works flawlessly. Or.... it's a fools folly.

I have NOT: "thrown up my hands to worrying about it"(privacy issues) as you suggest. And I am NOT by any means anything like a "prophet".

Honestly I am just not prone to paranoia. I have never been a tin-hatter (or wearer of tin-foil hats) and the prospect of investing my time and efforts to such silliness doesn't appeal to me. I was a network administrator on one of the governments most secure networks before my retirement. I can generally tell a threat from click-bait. But I do understand that many can't. That must be concerning.

I love home automation! Have for many years. And I loved the old remote controlled lighting..... and everything in between.... right up to and including today's AI. Today's AI is better than the old days. And who knows what tomorrows Home Automation will bring?!?!? I seem to be the last of a bred of human that can neither read minds of see the future. But I wait for the new HA advancements....  with a sense of excitement!

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