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3 pin 466 appliance module (2017 review)

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Tuicemen:
After playing with this new module I'm on the fence about the local sensing being removed.
There are some situations where you will want to turn on the device plugged into the module manually.
If the module is in the off state this isn't possible, that means you have to find a remote. This will degrade my WAF which has been slowly gaining. :(
I emailed the owner about their plans to offer modules with either local sensing or with it removed.
Update:
The owner replied and sees the need for both versions of the modules.
Though the lamp module I don't see as being very popular with local sensing as few LEDs work with them.
He has agreed they may need to create both versions though the supply of modules with local control will be a small amount. :)%
I suspect the supply of appliance modules with local sensing will need to be replenished sooner then the lamp modules.
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dave w:

--- Quote from: Tuicemen on December 11, 2017, 01:37:01 PM ---There are some situations where you will want to turn on the device plugged into the module manually.
If the module is in the off state this isn't possible, that means you have to find a remote.
The owner replied and sees the need for both versions of the modules.
He has agreed they may need to create both versions though the supply of modules with local control will be a small amount. :)%

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It would take another + three years of development but this is a situation where a module with a "local control" by-pass switch OR simple by-pass programming would be a solution. Having to set up part numbers, warehouse space, data base, etc. for a new module which is very, very, similar to another module is costly. I never understood why X10 WTI continued to offer a two pin and three pin version of the same Appliance Module. I suppose they made a little more profit on the three pin.

Brian H:
There are some older homes. With the old two prong outlets. Even no ground wire in the Romex.

Tuicemen:

--- Quote from: dave w on December 11, 2017, 07:59:31 PM ---It would take another + three years of development but this is a situation where a module with a "local control" by-pass switch OR simple by-pass programming would be a solution. 

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rofl
Authinx has been toying with several ideas for local sensing over the past few years the simple switch may have been over looked  ::) :'
The by past programing I think is what they had been looking at and as we've seen with the Wi-Fi module that is what delays everything. ::) :'
I pitched the switch option to the owner so end users could decide what they needed. ;)


--- Quote from: Brian H on December 12, 2017, 06:32:43 AM ---There are some older homes. With the old two prong outlets. Even no ground wire in the Romex.

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My house never had any 3 prong outlets in fact I remember going to the hardware store looking with my dad for some to swap out and the 3 prong outlets were not readily available.
Today it is hard to find the 2 prong outlets.
Most insurance companies are demanding older houses get rewired and when that happens all outlets are updated to the three prong.
I suspect X10 may faze out the two prong modules.

roger1818:
To me the best option would be an updated socket rocket that has a push button toggle switch.  That way the switch is in the lamp, where you want it.  It would also be nice if they also made a wired in version that would replace your socket rather than screw into an existing socket.

As for 2 pin appliance modules, they are also useful when plugging into an extension cord.  Yes you can get grounded extension cords, but most lamp extension cords are 2 pin.

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