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Would you like the WM100 to have RF capabilities?

Very Important (I want it ASAP)
- 17 (54.8%)
Useful (I will want it one day)
- 10 (32.3%)
Neutral (I may use it)
- 4 (12.9%)
Not Very Useful (Iprobably won't use it)
- 0 (0%)
Unnecessary  (I will never use it)
- 0 (0%)

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Re: RF capabilities
« Reply #15 on: January 17, 2018, 12:27:09 PM »

..... Many use door window sensors for detecting all sorts of stuff.
.... A home made water detector is one thing I setup using these.

There you go! How do I change my vote?
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Re: RF capabilities
« Reply #16 on: January 17, 2018, 12:32:04 PM »


What else are we using RF for now-a-days?

I currently use the security door/window sensors to turn lights on. One example would be to turn the light on when the door is opened and it's dark outside.

I also use outside motion sensors to not only turn on flood lights outside but to also wait a a minute and turn on an inside light if I'm away and it's dark out.
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Re: RF capabilities
« Reply #17 on: January 17, 2018, 12:53:50 PM »

..... Many use door window sensors for detecting all sorts of stuff.
.... A home made water detector is one thing I setup using these.

There you go! How do I change my vote?
Click on remove vote, then re-vote ;)
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Re: RF capabilities
« Reply #18 on: January 17, 2018, 06:49:41 PM »

Click on remove vote, then re-vote ;)

My "other" vote was changed to yes.
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Re: RF capabilities
« Reply #19 on: January 22, 2018, 05:54:40 PM »

I voted yes, although in terms of priorities I would much rather have Google Home integration.  If they need to make a WM200 that includes RF, I'd be ok with a different device.
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Re: RF capabilities
« Reply #20 on: January 22, 2018, 07:35:42 PM »

Check your votes. This poll has been edited per Roger 1818 specs.
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Re: RF capabilities
« Reply #21 on: January 23, 2018, 05:07:29 AM »

I voted yes, although in terms of priorities I would much rather have Google Home integration.  If they need to make a WM200 that includes RF, I'd be ok with a different device.
Adding RF will most likely require a hardware change and there has been talk of a Pro version, with more MEM, RAM and RF.
I'd also much rather have voice skill for either Google or Alexa.
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Re: RF capabilities
« Reply #22 on: February 21, 2018, 07:54:03 AM »

Adding RF will most likely require a hardware change and there has been talk of a Pro version, with more MEM, RAM and RF.

This can be done without a hardware change to the WM100. Authinx could design a separate WiFi-enabled (e.g. ESP8266) module with RF RX/TX capabilities. It could communicate with the WM100 via WiFi.
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Re: RF capabilities
« Reply #23 on: February 21, 2018, 10:49:16 AM »

This can be done without a hardware change to the WM100. Authinx could design a separate WiFi-enabled (e.g. ESP8266) module with RF RX/TX capabilities. It could communicate with the WM100 via WiFi.

That is a brilliant idea! Maybe even relay security alarm activation both ways plus send alarms too... directly to a mobile phone.
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Re: RF capabilities
« Reply #24 on: February 21, 2018, 10:16:30 PM »

If this is where one votes for RF on the VM 100 follow-on; I vote yes!
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Re: RF capabilities
« Reply #25 on: February 21, 2018, 11:38:21 PM »

Well, we do know Authinx 's early attempt at a wifi hub (Wijit), (or WiFi project 1 or W1) worked on a RF transmit system.
And we do know Authinx 's second project at a WiFi hub (WM 100), (or Willie 100 or W2) worked on PLC.
Seems like all that's missing is a receiver and a frequency adjustment and then merge all the projects together.

Will this be W3, or W4,.....?

I can't wait to see W10

(This post is a sly nod to PICO electronics)
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Re: RF capabilities
« Reply #26 on: February 22, 2018, 12:44:59 AM »

The initial proto type was a converted PAT03.
It had a different (discontinued) Wi-Fi chip the RF only worked for 1 house code, If I remember correctly ::) :'
It is to bad the pass through was eliminated because I like dhouston's Idea, and that would have meant a RF receiver could have been plugged directly into the WM.
The WM has lots of horsepower under the hood and hasn't come close to using 1/4 of it yet.
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Re: RF capabilities
« Reply #27 on: March 01, 2018, 10:15:54 PM »

Adding RF will most likely require a hardware change and there has been talk of a Pro version, with more MEM, RAM and RF.

This can be done without a hardware change to the WM100. Authinx could design a separate WiFi-enabled (e.g. ESP8266) module with RF RX/TX capabilities. It could communicate with the WM100 via WiFi.
I pitched this Idea to Authinx (to bad they removed the pass through) it could have plugged right into the wee Willie.
The owner likes the Idea however he wasn't sure if an existing form factor could be used to keep tooling costs down.
Given the size of the ESP chips I figured it could all fit into a RF repeater.(SR751)

A wijit hub might be another possibility since the same manufacture makes those.
After thinking about it using a Powermid might be a better option as we could possibly get IR as well ::) :'
I've not pulled apart either to see what if any extra space is available inside.
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Re: RF capabilities
« Reply #28 on: March 01, 2018, 11:05:51 PM »

The ESP8266 chip they use in the WM100 is 18x20mm (~0.7x0.8in) so it should fit easily within the SR751 enclosure.

They would only need to invert the output of the RF receiver before feeding it to the ESP8266.
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Re: RF capabilities
« Reply #29 on: March 01, 2018, 11:18:52 PM »

The owner likes the Idea however he wasn't sure if an existing form factor could be used to keep tooling costs down.

The ESP8266 can connect concurrently* with up to 5 other ESP8266 modules so this could be a simple way to expand the WM100 universe with things like weather stations and _fill in the blank_ while maintaining control of that universe.

*I think this means simultaneous connections while the total number of modules that could make momentary connections may be much higher.
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