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Brian H

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Re: X10 SCHEMATICS....
« Reply #15 on: November 16, 2019, 07:09:04 AM »

Looked at Backward Engineering's schematic. Linked above. It looks like the am I on or off sensor and Local Control sensor are the same circuit. Not sure if a part can be removed to lower the current.
The current can't be completely removed. As it uses the sensor circuit to determine if it is On or Off. If removed the module can't determine if it is On or Off and will fire the ratchet mechanism a few times trying. Like a machine gun sound. When you try and turn it On.
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Re: X10 SCHEMATICS....
« Reply #16 on: November 16, 2019, 02:42:22 PM »

There have been instructions on how to do it posted in the past. unfortunately,  :( the Bartana website is now up for sale
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Re: X10 SCHEMATICS....
« Reply #17 on: November 16, 2019, 03:36:22 PM »

There have been instructions on how to do it posted in the past. unfortunately,  :( the Bartana website is now up for sale

It's here: https://web.archive.org/web/20081107233049/http://www.idobartana.com/hakb/index.htm
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Re: X10 SCHEMATICS....
« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2019, 04:18:51 PM »

I also found this on the cocoontech site which seems to be on point: 
http://cocoontech.com/forums/topic/4983-disabling-local-control-on-sr227-wall-outlets/
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Brian H

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Re: X10 SCHEMATICS....
« Reply #19 on: November 16, 2019, 06:26:43 PM »

The jumper mentioned would probably defeat the Local Control Sensor from turning the module on when the loads local switch was toggled from on to off and back on.
It will not defeat the actual sensing current from keeping sensitive loads like LEDs from glowing or pulsing.

The module also has a sensing circuit to determine if it is on or off. That circuit can not be defeated or it will pulse like a machine gun when you try to change its on or off status.

Now the latest ones could be different. X10WTI changed the appliance module to be more friendly to sensitive loads the socket may also have been updated.

The fix. Local Control frequently could be defeated. By putting an electrical cube tap on the outlet and putting a 7W incandescent night light and the normal load on the module. It normally would load down the sensing voltage so a sensitive load would not flash or pulse when off.

Found this in a web search. http://www.komar.org/how-to/fix-repair-broken-sr227-x10-super-socket/
Covers the broken ratchet switch actuator breaking and switch contacts with dirty contacts. Causing the machine gun sound when changing on and off.
« Last Edit: November 16, 2019, 06:51:38 PM by Brian H »
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Re: X10 SCHEMATICS....
« Reply #20 on: November 18, 2019, 07:39:10 PM »

Found this in a web search. http://www.komar.org/how-to/fix-repair-broken-sr227-x10-super-socket/
Covers the broken ratchet switch actuator breaking and switch contacts with dirty contacts.
Have not seen this one before. Thanks!
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Re: X10 SCHEMATICS....
« Reply #21 on: September 28, 2020, 10:00:40 PM »

 :)%
Thank you for the idobartana cache link! had it, lost it, and know I have bookmarked again! ;D
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