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Jordi

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AHP will not control devices
« on: February 24, 2006, 02:16:00 PM »

I have the CM15A acting as the transceiver for housecodes D and L.  When using regular remotes such as the PalmPad, Slimfire, or IR543, all of the devices work as expected.  None of the modules work from AHP. 

I have defined all of the modules in AHP with the correct housecode and unitcodes, but when I try to control them from directly from AHP or through a macro, nothing happens.  I can use a remote from the same room and all modules function properly.

Since I am using the CM15A as the transceiver and it works with remotes, it does not seem like this would be a phase or noise issue.  The machine sees the CM15A without any problems and will download timers and macros, so the CM15A seems to be functioning properly.

Any ideas?

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Re: AHP will not control devices
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2006, 02:21:32 PM »

check to be sure your transieved hosecodes are set to D and L in the hardware control pull down :) ;) by default it is set to none!
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Jordi

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Re: AHP will not control devices
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2006, 03:35:28 PM »

check to be sure your transieved hosecodes are set to D and L in the hardware control pull down :) ;) by default it is set to none!

Thanks Tuicemen.  I do have the D and L set as transceived housecodes.  I am not using any other transceivers, just the CM15A.
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Re: AHP will not control devices
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2006, 03:50:18 PM »

Jordi:
I wonder if there's something simple here that's being overlooked.
OK, we know the CM15A is properly configured for transceiving.  And we know the CM15A is capable of sending X10 signals on the power line, and that those signals are reaching the modules. 

If you click on a module icon in the Room panel, you say the lamp/appliance connected to the module does not turn on/off.  But does the icon indicate that
the module has been actuated? 

If you open the Activity Monitor window (Tools > Activity monitor), is there any indication of anything happening when you click on a module icon?

Please list the module types and addresses for 2 or 3 of your modules so we can get a better feel for your setup.

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Re: AHP will not control devices
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2006, 05:27:25 PM »

Thanks Charles,

When clicking on a module in the Room panel, the icon indicates that the module have been acuated or dimmed.
Activity monitor indicates that commands are being sent to the module (below is a sample from Activity Monitor when using the Room panel)
   0 02/24/2006 5:17:44 pm Transmit D3 (Jordi’s Lamp LM465)
   1 02/24/2006 5:17:44 pm Transmit D On (Jordi’s Lamp LM465)
   2 02/24/2006 5:17:46 pm Transmit D2 (Joanie’s Lamp LM465)
   3 02/24/2006 5:17:47 pm Transmit D On (Joanie’s Lamp LM465)
   4 02/24/2006 5:17:52 pm Transmit L2 (Couch Overhead)
   5 02/24/2006 5:17:52 pm Transmit L On (Couch Overhead)
   6 02/24/2006 5:17:55 pm Transmit L3 (Entry Overhead)
   7 02/24/2006 5:17:55 pm Transmit L On (Entry Overhead)

Modules
  D2 LM465 lamp module
  D3 LM465 lamp module
  L2  Switchlinc 2-way dimmer (2380w)
  L3  Switchlinc 2-way dimmer (2380w)

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Re: AHP will not control devices
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2006, 10:23:46 PM »

Jordi,
Perhaps you already know this, but let me just mention that a LM465 Lamp Module in the dimmed state will NOT respond to an X10 On signal - to bring it to full brightness you have to Brighten it.  Or else first send it the Off signal.

Presumably you've also tried moving the Bright/Dim slider on the LM465 module icon to various brightness levels and still see no response from the module.

It looks like you've set the preference option to send an On signal when a lamp module is brightened to 100%.  Try unselecting that option and see if makes any difference.

Save your AHP setup, then click File > New.  Drag just one LM465 Lamp Module into the empty room as D3.  See if the module responds
when you play with the slider on the icon.

Try this to see if it makes any difference:  Unplug the CM15A from the wall and remove one of the batteries for a few seconds.  (All the batteries are in series, so removing one is as effective as removing all four.)  Replace the battery and plug it back into the wall.  And try it with the battery left out.  (The CM15A will work without batteries, but I don't know how a very low or defective battery will affect it.)

If none of the above elicits any response from the module, I'm at a loss to suggest anything else other than it's a major hangup in the software driver (you could try rebooting) or a defective CM15A.

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Re: AHP will not control devices
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2006, 10:33:10 PM »

I have a very similar problem.  All of my modules work with the remote control, but none of the modules in one particular room are controllable from AHP or through a macro.  When I try to click the modules in that room on with AHP, AHP says they're on but they're not.  Macros won't work either.  But, I can use the remote and click them on.  The modules are not dimmers.
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Re: AHP will not control devices
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2006, 11:44:44 AM »

I found a workaround that works!  In your macro, have it send a turn on or turn off signal to that module using an RF command, rather than a signal sent through your house's wiring.  see http://www.x10.com/kbase/articles/a00282.html.  Now, even those modules that the computer couldn't control could be controlled by a timer or macro. 
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Re: AHP will not control devices
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2006, 12:03:49 PM »

 Metallicajim  you must have another transciever in your setup as AHP can't send a plc for a rf that it sends Unless x10 has just added that feature in the last couple of updates!
While were on the topic of transcievers Jordi I don't know if you have  one (eg: tm751) other than the CM15A . but in your setup make sure that when you add modules to a room they are the same that you are actualy using lamp module stated as a lamp model not wall switch. appliance module set as an appliance module not a transciever.
These seems silly but will degrade your setup. I had a TM751 in my original setup but removed it to use at the cottage. I never took it out of my setup as I figured I'd put it back in. Needless to say I never did and just added a regular appliance module in its place It took me hours to find that problem.
Don't get me wrong some modules/switches can be refered to with other modules in the AHP setup and work fine (just no other way)
Also make sure a module that is not two way isn't set up in the configureation as two way it will cause probs as well.

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Re: AHP will not control devices--Me too!
« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2006, 11:58:08 PM »

I can't stand this.  What am I doing wrong?  AHP controls only three devices; the other 6 are on their own.  AHP timers work with only one device.  I'm leaving to go out of town so the timers would be a real plus.  My kingdom for a horse  >:(   Thanks guys!
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Re: AHP will not control devices
« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2006, 12:10:50 AM »

Tryiing to think of the simple solutions, Is your CM15A connected to the computer via the USB?  Is it plugged into an electrical outlet when connected to the computer?  Another thing to try is to clear your interface memory, set up your hardware, and then download your timers and macro's.  You could also try setting up all your units to work with one house code, and see if that makes a difference.   
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Re: AHP will not control devices
« Reply #11 on: June 25, 2006, 10:42:49 AM »

What device should I use to control Sprinklers from AHP?
My remote works fine, but AHP won't control them.
I have tried light switches with and without dimmers.

Max
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Re: AHP will not control devices
« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2006, 12:15:20 AM »

Try the Universal Module, it is designed to control low voltage devices.
http://www.x10.com/automation/um506_s.html
or
http://www.activehomepro.com/accessories/pro/pum01_wa1_s.htm
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Re: AHP will not control devices
« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2006, 06:28:29 AM »

mdkinc;
WGL also makes an 8 output device to control 8 zone valves for sprinklers. Can be X10 signal controlled.
http://www.wgldesigns.com/index.html
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