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davek

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Alternatives to AHP?
« on: June 23, 2006, 12:26:07 PM »

What alternatives are there to PC based X10 software that are better than AHP?

Reading the comments on this review pretty much talked me into trying something else.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1681536,00.asp

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Re: Alternatives to AHP?
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2006, 12:55:25 PM »

At least according to PC Magazine, there is no better x10 control product on the market.  I've been a subscriber for 15 years and one thing is certain about their reviews: They buy the products they try and a PC Mag Editor's Choice says that product is the best of the choices.

I'm 99% happy with Active Home Pro, the timers work when they are supposed to and my single macro, a keypress one, turns off all modules on 3 different house codes.  My 1% unhappiness is a small bug in the communication between X10 Network Services (which loads with Windows and runs in the background) and AHP, in that AHP is not properly using the data X10 Network Services is passing to it. This is supposed to be fixed in the next update to AHP, whenever it gets released.
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Re: Alternatives to AHP?
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2006, 01:46:46 PM »

I must agree with Dan. I have had mostly good results with X10 and AHP. My timers run flawlessly. I have had some inconsistent problems with macros, which I use a lot of. My biggest complaint with X10 products is the lack of range of some of the wireless devices  like the keychain remotes and the motion sensors. The range of the CM15, as supplied, could be better also. I would give it a 85% satisfaction ratting.
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Re: Alternatives to AHP?
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2006, 02:50:05 PM »

...I'm 99% happy with Active Home Pro...
I put my satisfaction rating about there also. I haven't seen a better software for the CM15A. Yes, there are a few bugs but that's true for any software. I've been able to handle most of the current bugs with a few strategically placed 1 second delays and some dummy modules.
I'm reminded of a quote I read somewhere that said "By the time a piece of software is bugfree, it's obsolete."

...My biggest complaint with X10 products is the lack of range of some of the wireless devices like the keychain remotes and the motion sensors. The range of the CM15, as supplied, could be better also....
Agreed. Range could be a bit better.
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Re: Alternatives to AHP?
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2006, 03:41:21 PM »

As to range problems with the CM15a, I have two RR-501 transcievers in my system that pre-date AHP.  Active Home's CM11a had no transciever, so the RR501's were for SS13s' in the living room and breakfast room.  I have a keychain remote that has always has had problems talking to the 501's. It was free from X10 USA when I bought something ealse from them a lomg while ago, so I didn't lose anything on it. It also has problems with the tranciever in the CM15, it has problems communicating when held an inch from the antenna. It's (obviously) not an important piece of X10 equipment in my system.
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Re: Alternatives to AHP?
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2006, 01:53:49 AM »

Although rare I must also admit that I'm bascially happy with AHP bought my first unit about a year ago it was defective putting out a tremendous amount of RF interference so much so that it completely blocked my DS7000 x10 security system, well the second unit I received has issues x10 support has determined it has a hardware problem and must also be replaced my timers are all being executed 2 to 3 minutes late, so I'm in the process of packing up this unit for a replacement took a week to receive an RMA for this order I was starting to think x10 didn't want to honor their own warranty. All in all even with all the problems I think this hardware/software really has promise although I'm really glad I waited a year I had a two year warranty to actually hook it up just couldn't have gone through all the frustrations the initial buyer had to put up with, timers not working ect. I don't know who was responsible for the early release of this hardware/software but they should be fired! the initial release was just junk. Give em another 6 months to a year and hopefully they might get it right. x10 wants to do everything on the cheap including their programing guess they haven't learned you get what you pay for. The only drawback of the Smarthome stuff is that as far as I know you can't integrate your cameras  into the interface and there's no internet support that's why I guess I'll have to stick with the x10 stuff for now. Here's a few comments from other users from the PC Magazine article.

Cj


My regret is that I can't give this thing 0 stars! It was released way too soon. It is still not ready for production. They update the software every couple of weeks. They might fix one or two bugs, but introduce five new ones. I always thought PC Magazine was better then this, they apparently did not actually try this out, only looked at the press release from X-10. I sent mine back. Anybody with any sense would do the same, or better yet, not buy it at all!

The X10 folks should be ashamed of themselves for selling this as production software. The good news is that they are rapidly fixing identifiable bugs. I will applaud them for that. They should soon have a good piece of software, at the expense of their customers. It took several customer support excursions to get my video capture system working. I then discovered that a driver recommended by the 'Windows Automatic Update' service would blow my video capture device off of the air. I have recovered again with the help of x10 customer support. I now discover that the 'preset dim' commands used by several other manufactures are considered obsolete by x10. I have a TempLinc (SmartHome) temperature sender that is accurate and works well in controlling heating and cooling. X10 decided that this sender was obsolete when they did away with 'preset dim' codes. Today I decided to scrap my CM15A and Active Home Pro software for the more friendly SmartHome 1132CU USB interface. I will need to buy still more software. For me X10 ActiveHomePro is now obsolete.


Yes AH Pro has had its problems, but it seems like some people have had it worse off than others. For me it works quite well. I can't say there haven't been any problems but it meets my needs. There are more expensive systems that are better, but for the price, it really is quite good. There are still a few features that I would like which they don't support yet and the hardware design is a little weak but overall I would say it is a good product for someone who wants to try home automation on a limited budget.
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Re: Alternatives to AHP?
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2006, 06:17:09 PM »

One caveat with the PC Mag article posted, it was dated November 2004. 

AHP is improved a lot since 2004, the CM15a is much better than it was in 2004, although it still has range problems.

Many people with every add-on to AHP have experienced no problems, others have problems ranging from equipment, PC hardware and other things.

I've had AHP for a year in July, and I'm 99% happy with it. It does what I want. My 1% is the status problem with 2 Lamp Modules. What bugs me is 4 other Lamp Modules in the same room are always correctly shown for their status, including two that are dimmed.
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Re: Alternatives to AHP?
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2006, 08:17:36 PM »

One caveat with the PC Mag article posted, it was dated November 2004. 

AHP is improved a lot since 2004, the CM15a is much better than it was in 2004, although it still has range problems.

Many people with every add-on to AHP have experienced no problems, others have problems ranging from equipment, PC hardware and other things.

I've had AHP for a year in July, and I'm 99% happy with it. It does what I want. My 1% is the status problem with 2 Lamp Modules. What bugs me is 4 other Lamp Modules in the same room are always correctly shown for their status, including two that are dimmed.

Don't get me wrong yes I agree this thing has tremendous potential. I actually think x10 has the potential to approach a billion dollar company or at least 500 million for sure but thy will never see it with all the quality control issues. I myself had to return two video commander 1 and 2's at least 5 times over the course of a little over a year before I got two that would work reliably. I would get one and it would die after a few weeks to a few months  heck one just died right in the box. No my point was that they should have never been released AHP until it had been thoroughly tested, don't understand why they couldn't have done what Microsoft does and release a bata version to be evaluated by their loyal customers so most if not all of these hardware/software problems could have been identified prior to a formal release, well I guess they will never learn.

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Re: Alternatives to AHP?
« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2006, 04:26:51 PM »

What alternatives are there to PC based X10 software that are better than AHP?
I'm happy with AHP as well but I have tried other alternatives to the software there are a few Homedoimination there is a free trial download (not as Fancy with graphics as AHP) but this one doesn't use the SDK files to talk to the CM15A And I'm not sure if it will upload to the interface.There are others but they slip my mind right now(happens a lot lately) ;) :D ;D Perhaps someone can post links to the others one is written in Perl" mrhouse" or something like that I think links were posted elsewhere in the forum perhaps a search will turn them up! It's up to you to decide if they're better,or not!
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