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uncmph

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monitored system without telephone
« on: August 01, 2006, 01:56:32 PM »

I don't have a landline (telephone).  Are their monitored home security systems that work without home phones (land lines) ???  What are my options?
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Re: monitored system without telephone
« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2006, 09:47:32 PM »

More info please.

What type of connection would you prefer that the alarm panel use instead of a phone line?
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Re: monitored system without telephone
« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2006, 11:17:04 PM »

...What type of connection would you prefer that the alarm panel use instead of a phone line?...
Perhaps he may not even know what options he may have other than a land line.
Is there any other option left other than a cell or VoIP line? Have you connected any alarms to either of those?
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Re: monitored system without telephone
« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2006, 11:28:45 PM »

...What type of connection would you prefer that the alarm panel use instead of a phone line?...
Perhaps he may not even know what options he may have other than a land line.
Is there any other option left other than a cell or VoIP line? Have you connected any alarms to either of those?
There are alarm panels and / or adapters that will connect an alarm panel to VoIP, Cellular or direct IP to your internet connection (assuming your monitoring station has the right equipment).
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Re: monitored system without telephone
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2006, 01:42:28 PM »

Hi all -

Finally got around to reading more forum posts. I thought you might be interested on some of the info we have regarding landlines and the Protector Plus. There are a few solutions depending on the situation. We have had users tell us of success with VOIP, and the system should also work with Cell Phone docks. Basically you put your cell phone on the dock - it charges the phone - while creating a connection to a normal house phone cord system (the dock plugs into the system). For a little more info you might want to visit http://www.x10securitysystems.com/other_landline.html . Hope this helps -

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« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2006, 02:18:12 PM »

...I thought you might be interested on some of the info we have regarding landlines and the Protector Plus....
It's my understanding that in addition to the hardware huddles connecting an alarm to a VoIP or cell line, there's the software problem regarding dialing LD. While land lines use 11 digits (12 if you have to dial 9 first), cell and VoIP only require 10 digits. Has this programming been addressed with the Protector Plus?
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« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2006, 03:21:56 PM »

We have had a few users post success with both VOIP and Cell docks:

A Dock n' Talk User
http://www.x10community.com/forums/index.php?topic=8338.0

A few successes with VONAGE
http://www.x10community.com/forums/index.php?topic=6399.0

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« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2006, 03:27:52 PM »

Yeah...I have no idea what the options are.  I do have broadband internet, but I don't have Vonage.  I suppose I could get a second mobile phone and docking station, but I don't have it right now either.

I'd love to find out more about connecting through your computer(broadband), if that's an option.
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Re: monitored system without telephone
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2006, 09:41:31 PM »

I'm sure there are others, but off the top of my head I know that DSC makes IP (internet) communicators that are compatible with their panels and some others.

See them here: http://www.dsc.com/Default.aspx?id=45
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« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2006, 01:23:30 AM »

I am using Vonage VOIP with a PS561 voice dialer console. They work very well together. The cable modem and VOIP adapter are on a battery backup unit so I get a call even if the power had been cut.
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Re: monitored system without telephone
« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2006, 01:46:47 AM »

I am using Vonage VOIP with a PS561 voice dialer console. They work very well together. The cable modem and VOIP adapter are on a battery backup unit so I get a call even if the power had been cut.

Good to know!  And kudos for thinking ahead and using a battery backup, many people out there don't even consider what will happen when the power fails!   :o
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« Reply #11 on: August 25, 2006, 11:16:32 AM »

...Good to know!  And kudos for thinking ahead and using a battery backup, many people out there don't even consider what will happen when the power fails!
Good point! I'm a UPS advocate owning 6 or 7 of them myself.
Most people are aware of the dangers of a surge but many are unaware that in addition to the power line, surges can come in through the phone line as well as a cable / satellite line.
Even less are aware of the damage that low voltage can do to equipment over time. In addition to computer crashes and loss of data that can occur from a power outage, equipment can be damaged over time when having to run under "brown out" conditions.
I have UPSs on all my entertainment equipment, both computers (desktop & laptop), the cordless phone (I was the only one in the neighborhood able to use their cordless phone during the last power outage.) and even the fish tank.
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Re: monitored system without telephone
« Reply #12 on: August 25, 2006, 10:46:54 PM »

and even the fish tank.
Good thought!  I suppose the fish would still like to breathe (and maybe have heat) when the power is out!
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Re: monitored system without telephone
« Reply #13 on: August 28, 2006, 10:01:48 PM »

I don't have a landline (telephone).  Are their monitored home security systems that work without home phones (land lines) ???  What are my options?

Here's a link to that cell phone dock also if you're going to have your system professionally monitored the next link is for a RF communicator that will connect you to your monitoring station using radio waves. This thing is incredible!! Let me know what you think.  ;D

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http://www.x10securitysystems.com/other_celldock.html

http://monitoring.homesecuritystore.com/wireless_alarm_system_monitoring.htm
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Re: monitored system without telephone
« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2006, 05:14:13 AM »

One thing to think about with VoIP is when power goes out how many people have tested there cable to see if its up and running? Cable companies have power amps on poles all over their grid and most are powered with the same line as all the houses. When I loose power I loose cable.

All my equipment, cable modems, VoIP modem, routers, hubs and computers are on power backup but I loose VoIP because one of those big green cable amp boxes is mounted on the pole out back and it gets power from the same line I do.
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