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💬General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: oatndi on January 24, 2009, 03:28:25 PM
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How do I wire an xpcr repeater coupler into a fuse box? i do not have a breaker box I have a fuse box. Fuses are wired differently than breakers.
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It should have come with a set of instructions on how to do it.
Dis you get the instructions as a guide. With that we maybe able to go over it with you.
If you don't have a good working relationship with electricity especially in the breaker box. You may want to get help from someone with more knowledge or an Electrician. One bad move in a breaker box can be a unpleasant surprise or worse.
http://www.x10pro.com/
In the instructions area is the Installation Guide if you are missing the one in the box and it maybe updated if your instructions are not current.
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An XPCR will not work with a Fuse box, only a circuit breaker box. You will need an electrician to install a 2 gang breaker box and mount the XPCR in it. DO NOT attempt to do this yourself!!!!
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yes the fuse box is different but it does the same job. although i can't see why it wouldnt work.
the instruction show for breaker panel. There are the same hookups, you would need to find the location they look a lot different inside.
having said that the fuse box panels are old and not as safe. You really should update the panel 200 in parts for average house. about 3 hrs for the electrian get him to install it at the same time.
better yet get him to phase it, although I think they all do this now as part of the switch over you may not even need the repeater then.
Besides the fuse panel parts are expensive to replace and sooner or later you are going to need to put in the breakers ether by cost or law, some places now they can't even work on them They must replace them first.
just my 2 cents
Alex
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My Brother was told he could only keep the his Homeowners Insurance on his home as it was Grandfathered before they stopped insuring homes with Fuse Boxes.
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yes the fuse box is different but it does the same job. although i can't see why it wouldnt work.
the instruction show for breaker panel. There are the same hookups, you would need to find the location they look a lot different inside.
having said that the fuse box panels are old and not as safe. You really should update the panel 200 in parts for average house. about 3 hrs for the electrian get him to install it at the same time.
better yet get him to phase it, although I think they all do this now as part of the switch over you may not even need the repeater then.
Besides the fuse panel parts are expensive to replace and sooner or later you are going to need to put in the breakers ether by cost or law, some places now they can't even work on them They must replace them first.
just my 2 cents
Alex
The XPCR fits a breaker box like a circuit breaker would, a fuse box is wired the same, but fuses screw in, so there's no place a XPCR would go. I would spend the money to replace the fuse box with a circuit breaker box.
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There is no "electrical" reason why the XPCR cannot be used with a fuse box. However, the code now requires a 240V circuit be configured so that when one phase loses power, the other phase must also be interrupted. Fuse panels do not work that way. It requires a ganged circuit breaker.
While the preferred approach would be to upgrade your electrical system to a breaker panel, it is possible to meet code by feeding a small breaker subpanel off the main fuse panel. I did that years ago using the unused 240V RANGE disconnect to feed a subpanel for a workshop. (The house had a gas stove.) Then just add a small enclosure for the XPCR fed off a 240V 15A breaker.
It is possible that your local bulding department will require replacing the entire fusebox if any electrical work is done. So, check with them first.
Jeff
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yes the fuse box is different but it does the same job. although i can't see why it wouldnt work.
the instruction show for breaker panel. There are the same hookups, you would need to find the location they look a lot different inside.
having said that the fuse box panels are old and not as safe. You really should update the panel 200 in parts for average house. about 3 hrs for the electrian get him to install it at the same time.
better yet get him to phase it, although I think they all do this now as part of the switch over you may not even need the repeater then.
Besides the fuse panel parts are expensive to replace and sooner or later you are going to need to put in the breakers ether by cost or law, some places now they can't even work on them They must replace them first.
just my 2 cents
Alex
The XPCR fits a breaker box like a circuit breaker would, a fuse box is wired the same, but fuses screw in, so there's no place a XPCR would go. I would spend the money to replace the fuse box with a circuit breaker box.
yes there would be terminals to hookup the juice comming in from the pole just as a breaker box the only different the fuse screws in the breakers trip. there is still a place to hook a wire for both in an out.
if i was doing this and I will I'm gonna get one of those drier plug in ones
http://www.smarthome.com/1626-10/FilterLinc-10-Amp-Plug-In-X10-Noise-Filter/p.aspx or
http://www.smarthome.com/4827/BoosterLinc-Plug-In-Signal-Booster-X10-X-10-Amplifier/p.aspx
why screw around in a box when it can be just a plugin
Alex
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Both the links you gave are NOT couplers or repeater for the phases.
The filterlinc is a filter you use on a known noisy device.
The boosterlinc is a signal booster that takes the signal it receives and sends it back on the same circuit it is on.
Both do not fit in a dryer outlet. Both have a standard 120 volt outlet plug on them.
The 4826 series is the dryer outlet version of the coupler repeater. 4826A is 4 pin; 4826B is 3 pin
The 4816 series is the dryer outlet version of the passive coupler. 4816A2 is the 4 pin; 4861B2 is the 3 pin.
You may want to look at some great Troubleshooting Tips:
http://jvde.us/x10_troubleshooting.htm
http://www.act-solutions.com/PCC/uncle.htm
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Thanx for correction I was looking for the dryer one to link got the wrong ones I was in a hurry Sorry
correct links
http://www.smarthome.com/4826A/SignaLinc-4-Pin-Plug-in-Coupler-Repeater/p.aspx
http://www.smarthome.com/4826B/SignaLinc-3-Pin-Plug-in-Coupler-Repeater/p.aspx