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🔌General Home Automation => Automating Your House => Troubleshooting Automation Problems => Topic started by: Bingo on September 08, 2009, 09:19:55 PM
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B:(Anybody have a idea to deactivate the Off function for the Active Eye MS16A ?
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You only want the Active Eye to send On signals and no Off ones?
I don't think that can be done.
The only motion sensor, I have ever seen that only sent On signals was the DS10A Rex-10 Motion Sensor and it has been discontinued for a long time.
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You only want the Active Eye to send On signals and no Off ones?
I had written a responce to this post.... then wondered if I misunderstood.
I tried to think of an application for an ON only. I thought everything turned ON... needed turned OFF. Or else it would be a onetime use. Or would need to be manually reset.
Of course.... if we knew the use.. we might be able to figure a work around. Like using the Eye sensor to trigger a macro. Or using a powerflash module to switch on a locking relay.
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You may be able to achieve that by using a macro. Your trigger checks for OFF from the module and changes that to an ON. I have a similar macro but in my case I was turning an ON to an OFF during certain times.
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B:(Anybody have a idea to deactivate the Off function for the Active Eye MS16A ?
Just to echo everyone else. You can't deactivate the OFF. If you have AHP, use a macro to activate your light/device from the AE ON and don't trigger any macro from the AE OFF. Obviously what ever you want to control must be on a different HCUC than the AE.
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Ditto the above.
Also don't forget that the +1 UC is also used for dusk/dawn. This can be fooled by a piece on tape over the sensor inside. Search the forum for a discussion about this if you need to that.
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If you get the button sequence right. The MS16A Active Eye can be programed to not send the dusk dawn on UC+1; time before off time out can be set and can be set to night motion only.
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I tried to think of an application for an ON only. I thought everything turned ON... needed turned OFF. Or else it would be a onetime use. Or would need to be manually reset
Dave, I never use the off function of the motion sensors. I use the motion sensors to trigger macros...This adds a lot more flexability than being limited by the motion sensor sending an off signal.
I also use the VCR commander which is triggered by a motion sensor. It does not require an off from the motion sensor as it automatically times out after 5 minutes.
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... Dave, I never use the off function of the motion sensors. I use the motion sensors to trigger macros.......I also use the VCR commander which is triggered by a motion sensor.
Both are excellent examples Jim. And both... also present no need to disable the off function. Ether your macro handles the off function.. or the VCR Commander does.
I have a motion sensor I use with BVC (http://www.wgjohns.com/bvc.htm) to get a Voice alert. I only use the ON function for that also. I use the sensor as a way to help me keep an eye on things like [sharp] tools in garage when grandkids are over. The sensor sends an ON signal.. which through the CM15A... is heard by the BVC (http://www.wgjohns.com/bvc.htm) software. BVC (http://www.wgjohns.com/bvc.htm) then speaks in a realistic human-like voice saying something like: "motion detected in the garage". In this case... the Eye Sensor itself... resets to off so it can send a new on a minute later.
It may very well be the OP has found a need for a repeating ON... with a disabled OFF. I guess what interests me is maybe... if I knew what that need is..... I might need it too. I am always looking for new Home Automation uses.
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...It may very well be the OP has found a need for a repeating ON... with a disabled OFF. I guess what interests me is maybe... if I knew what that need is..... I might need it too. I am always looking for new Home Automation uses.
Well put! I agree.
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The OP is working on the problem over here:
http://forums.x10.com/index.php?topic=18691.msg104373#msg104373
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The OP is working on the problem over here: http://forums.x10.com/index.php?topic=18691.msg104373#msg104373
Oops. the OP is Bingo... and French Canadian. It's all coming back to me now. (we had collectively looked at Bingo's macro for his stairwell light at KDR's Home Automation Chat (http://bdshost.com/ac/)).
Instead of deactivating the off function... the OP merely needs to use the sensor as a macro trigger.