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💬General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: smatofu on October 03, 2021, 08:59:13 AM

Title: 20Amp microwave filter
Post by: smatofu on October 03, 2021, 08:59:13 AM
Hi Guys,

what filter would you use for a 20 amp microwave?

Thanks
S.
Title: Re: 20Amp microwave filter
Post by: brobin on October 03, 2021, 01:34:19 PM
The only one I know of with that rating is the X10 XPF 20A.
https://www.x10.com/collections/x10-filters-and-repeaters/products/xpf   
Maybe Jeff has some other ideas - maybe his ANR would do the job. Is the problem only when in use or all the time?
Title: Re: 20Amp microwave filter
Post by: smatofu on October 03, 2021, 03:58:58 PM
Quote from: brobin on October 03, 2021, 01:34:19 PM
The only one I know of with that rating is the X10 XPF 20A.
https://www.x10.com/collections/x10-filters-and-repeaters/products/xpf   
Maybe Jeff has some other ideas - maybe his ANR would do the job. Is the problem only when in use or all the time?

Thank you Brobin,

I was thinking about XPF. The problem is that I will have to add a plug and connector: plug to connect the filter to the wall and then connector to plug in the microwave.

Alternatively I will open the outlet box, do wiring in the box, and screw the filter to the wall next to the electric outlet.  Either way, it will look messy.





Title: Re: 20Amp microwave filter
Post by: brobin on October 03, 2021, 04:20:09 PM
If the microwave is on a dedicated circuit you could put the XPF in the electrical panel.
Title: Re: 20Amp microwave filter
Post by: smatofu on October 03, 2021, 05:07:05 PM
Quote from: brobin on October 03, 2021, 04:20:09 PM
If the microwave is on a dedicated circuit you could put the XPF in the electrical panel.

Yes, this is what I may do. I will have to check if filter in the electric panel does not weaken X10 signal. 

X10 installation and troubleshooting is "rocket science"!!!  -:)
Title: Re: 20Amp microwave filter
Post by: brobin on October 04, 2021, 12:32:17 AM
Does the microwave cause a problem when not in use?
Title: Re: 20Amp microwave filter
Post by: smatofu on October 04, 2021, 09:10:41 AM
Quote from: brobin on October 04, 2021, 12:32:17 AM
Does the microwave cause a problem when not in use?

Yes, it causes problems even when idle. I have a 3,000sf house with multiple computers, laptops, chargers, LED bulbs etc... It looks like all interferences and attenuations add up. Maybe the microwave is the straw that breaks camel's back.
Title: Re: 20Amp microwave filter
Post by: brobin on October 04, 2021, 09:26:38 AM
Assuming it's a dedicated circuit for the microwave and flipping the breaker solves the noise problem, the XPF is really your only option.  I don't think the XPF installed in the panel would be a problem as I've done something similar in the past with success.  You can get a brand new one on ebay right now for $22 delivered. 
https://www.ebay.com/itm/184819985300?hash=item2b08212b94:g:OFwAAOSw-7BglFhX
Title: Re: 20Amp microwave filter
Post by: smatofu on October 04, 2021, 11:06:08 AM
Quote from: brobin on October 04, 2021, 09:26:38 AM
Assuming it's a dedicated circuit for the microwave and flipping the breaker solves the noise problem, the XPF is really your only option.  I don't think the XPF installed in the panel would be a problem as I've done something similar in the past with success.  You can get a brand new one on ebay right now for $22 delivered. 
https://www.ebay.com/itm/184819985300?hash=item2b08212b94:g:OFwAAOSw-7BglFhX

I ordered that filter yesterday!  :) 
Title: Re: 20Amp microwave filter
Post by: brobin on October 04, 2021, 11:28:42 AM
Great! Let us know how it works out.
Title: Re: 20Amp microwave filter
Post by: Moose on October 04, 2021, 11:37:37 AM
This was my solution to your issue. I have made 3 of these. My latest was for a Roomba vacuum that was really noisy. Notice that there is a ground wire running between connectors for 3 wire plugs.
Title: Re: 20Amp microwave filter
Post by: smatofu on October 04, 2021, 12:07:53 PM
Quote from: Moose on October 04, 2021, 11:37:37 AM
This was my solution to your issue. I have made 3 of these. My latest was for a Roomba vacuum that was really noisy. Notice that there is a ground wire running between connectors for 3 wire plugs.

Looks clean! Thank you for sharing!