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🖥️ActiveHome Pro => Plug-ins => MyHouse Online => Topic started by: tom j on March 29, 2009, 10:42:04 PM
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Hay guys thanks for the info on Log Me In looks like the way I'm going to access AHP. Let me make sure I understand does Log Me In replace My House or just complement it, still a little confused. Thanks!
Tom j.
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Log Me In is a program that works like Windows remote access. It allows one Full control of your PC over the internet you still have to rely on someone Else's server from what I understand (never actually used it).
You might wish to look at Real VCN (http://www.realvnc.com/products/download.html) and compare. It uses your PC as the server so your not relying on someone else.You can also control PCs in your home network without going on the internet.
If your running XP you'll be able to use the free version!
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I have used both Logmein and Real VNC and each does a good job. I would say (in my experience) that the setup on Logmein is much easier. Maybe some one here could address any security concerns you might have because as Tuicemen stated: "It allows one Full Control of your PC".
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I have used both Logmein and Real VNC and each does a good job. I would say (in my experience) that the setup on Logmein is much easier. Maybe some one here could address any security concerns you might have because as Tuicemen stated: "It allows one Full Control of your PC".
Hi Jmac, well I take it that Logmein would actually replace My House, you wouldn't need both to access Active Home Pro would you. Thanks
Tom j.
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Maybe some one here could address any security concerns you might have because as Tuicemen stated: "It allows one Full Control of your PC".
Both are as secure as Myhouse.
Real VNC maybe the safest as you can specify ports and make changes localy on your sever machine
tom j
If you are going to use a remote access program like Log me In there is no need to connect to myhouse server if fact you wouldn't even need that plug-in installed.
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Maybe some one here could address any security concerns you might have because as Tuicemen stated: "It allows one Full Control of your PC".
Both are as secure as Myhouse.
Real VNC maybe the safest as you can specify ports and make changes localy on your sever machine
tom j
If you are going to use a remote access program like Log me In there is no need to connect to myhouse server if fact you wouldn't even need that plug-in installed.
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Thanks that what I thought and once you install the other plugins like iWatch and On Alert you would use Log Me In to access them instead of My House. So I guess My House is a gateway to the other plugins is that it? Thanks
Tom j.
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Myhouse just lets you access AHP remotely if you have the other plug-ins they become part of AHP! But not all the options of AHP are available with MyHouse! So it isn't realy a gate way to the pug-ins. ::) Log Me In is like you are on you HA machine allowing access to every thing you normaly would have access to! ;)
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Myhouse just lets you access AHP remotely if you have the other plug-ins they become part of AHP! But not all the options of AHP are available with MyHouse! So it isn't realy a gate way to the pug-ins. ::) Log Me In is like you are on you HA machine allowing access to every thing you normaly would have access to! ;)
Well I actually meant a gateway if you have the other plugins installed. Thanks!
Tom j.
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Hey Tom,
I'm currently a LogMeIn user. I did extensive research on the best remote desktop system to use and decided on this one. The main reason is security. With LogMeIn, I get 256bit encryption and little to no configuration issues. I can also access my AHP computer from just about anywhere - including my cell phone. I also went for the free version since I don't require the "extra" stuff they offer.
With Real VNC, there NO SECURITY at all (unless you get the professional version, which only gives you 128 bit encryption), which means that if anyone knows how to listen to a port (known as "man-in-the-middle" attack), they can easily hack into your machine and do whatever they want with it since ANY remote desktop system will provide total control of your system.
I also looked into Windows Remote Desktop. It provides 128bit encryption, but does require a lot of configuration to get it to work securely. For one, it has a designated port number (hard-coded, but you can change it through a registry modification), which is well known and most hackers will attack that port. The best way to configure Windows RDP is through tunneling, which requires extra hardware (router in some cases) or extra software (Windows server to validate a user logging in.)
Yes, LogMeIn does require that you go through someone else (the logmein site itself) to validate your membership and establish a secure connection between the client (the machine you're connecting from) to the server (your machine at home.) Once you're validated, you establish a P2P (peer to peer) connection with your machine so the performance is MUCH BETTER than the other solutions.
Personally, I can watch real-time video from my cell phone that's playing live (surveillance system) on my AHP machine by using LogMeIn. I couldn't do that reliably with RealVNC or Windows RDP. My connection would get saturated and dropped.
The reason why I ended up using a remote desktop instead of "My House" is because X10's service is very unreliable and definitely not designed for the bandwith I needed.
So, yes, once you go with the remote desktop option, you will not even need to bother connecting your system through X10's service. I connected once, tested it, and never logged in again.
I hope this helps!
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I use Hamachi which is owned by Logmein. I also have Logmein but prefer Hamachi much more. It is rock solid.
I remote desktop over the Hamachi VPN with TightVNC. It's as secure as it gets.
I also use Hamachi with gHamachi GUI on Ubuntu. There's also Hamachi for OSX and a few frontends.
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I might mention that Logmein's Hamachi is a standalone program. You can put it on Windows, Linux, Mac. But you can also use it through cellphones, PSPs and other internet enabled devices by using VNC. You only need to run Hamachi on the server side. By using VNC over the Hamachi VPN, you get the full benefit of Logmein encryption with the features of VNC.
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Hi - I've tried to go to the Logmein web site several times and have consistently gotten errors. Does this site still exist?
Thanks,
Michael
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Worked fine this morning. www.logmein.com
test at 6:45 EDT
OHio, USA
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Okay - figured it out. IT at my workplace blocks access. Guess I can't use this to check what's going on when I'm at work.
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I had the same issue, but was able to get around it for a while by using LMI "Ignition" installed on a USB stick. But after a while, that too got blocked. If they haven't gotten around to it yet, you might try Microsoft's Live Mesh.
If I really need to get through, I carry my laptop to a location where I can get GREEN access either wired or wireless. (Green being our term for access to the Public WWW without using the corporate network - like for visiting vendors or VIPs...)
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Unfortunately, P2P is usually associated with illegal downloads (bittorrent, etc.). However, there are legitimate uses of P2P such as in this case that don't require that the protocol be blocked from a corporate network. As more web services move to P2P-like services, I'm sure things will change.
That's one of the reasons why I have unlimited internet on my cell phone, which I can share to my laptop and have it connect at 3G speed or simply use LogMeIn directly from my cell phone (win mobile 6.1) to check on things at home.
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......... I'm sure things will change.
Everything will most certainly continue to change. There has never been anything static about Internet (or any) technology. If there is ever a hardcast solution to these remote - from work - connections it may be years down the line.
x10dude I think you've found [and are using] the best potential for HA integration... with the Web enabled cell phone.
Just the other day I had left the house (and not armed the alarm) and thought to myself... it's just plain silly that I can't call home and do that from my cell phone.
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There's currently several ways to run Hamachi (free from Logmein) on a flashdrive. Since it's connecting through you VPN IP instead of the logmein url, there's a good chance it's not blocked by IT.
Or you could try another thing. If you're running Hamachi on your server at home, you don't even need to run Hamachi or Logmein on the client. You can use VNC (I recommend TightVNC for Windows) and just VNC using the VPN ip. I've even able to remote in with a PSP gameplayer using a homebrew VNC. You still benefit from all the encryption Logmein Hamachi provides and in most cases it'll be a direct connection.
I call home and arm/disarm/bypass, etc my Honeywell/Ademco Vista alarm panel with phone module. By adding the Honeywell 1361x10 transformer, the panel will also allow you to over the phone send whatever x10 commands you have programmed in. In addition it'll execute x10 commands on alarm panel events.
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Maybe some one here could address any security concerns you might have because as Tuicemen stated: "It allows one Full Control of your PC".
My guess, worst case scenario:
If someone breaks into your MyHouse Online server account, they could mess around with your x10 settings/environment.
If someone breaks into your logmein account, they could steal any data you have on your hard disk, mess up your PC/network, etc.