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💬General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: dhouston on September 17, 2012, 02:48:59 PM
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- http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/limemouse/lifx-the-light-bulb-reinvented
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Basically useless except if you have a smart phone.
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Maybe someday we will see an X10 LED bulb with a built in interface. We can dream can't we? ;D
Smarthome has an LED light bulb with an Insteon Interface built into it.
So popular. It is on back order. As stock arrives. Being used to fill orders in the sequence they where placed.
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Basically useless except if you have a smart phone.
Or an Android or iOS tablet - or a PC or embedded device and a WiFi router. All you need is a way to send commands via WiFi which is not limited to Smartphones. Plus, they are planning an SDK so developers/hackers can have their way with it. From the link I cited earlier...
There's many more things you can do with LiFX smartbulbs in fact we're creating a software developer kit (SDK) and a hacker kit so hackers and developers alike will be able to release more and more apps to do things we haven't even thought of yet.
The free LIFX App will be available on the App Store and Google Play and we also have plans for a Windows, Mac and Linux app.
I might even get one so I can support it with the embedded hardware I'm developing.
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Basically useless except if you have a smart phone.
Not true, Dan! An Android app can run on any Android device - including the cheap android tablets from many manufacturers - probably even the x10 one if you hack it so you can get to the Google app store.
ITguy
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Not true, Dan! An Android app can run on any Android device - including the cheap android tablets from many manufacturers - probably even the x10 one if you hack it so you can get to the Google app store.
And you can bet on Amazon both selling the bulbs and providing an app that runs on their new Kindle Fire tablets.
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A week or two back, HA Dave posted about the $50 Belkin WeMo WiFi controlled appliance module. A few days ago I posted about Intel's embedded radio chip which will give WiFi to PICs/AVRs - probably an order of magnitude cheaper than current WiFi modules. Now, we have LIFX which uses WiFi to one master bulb/scheduler which then controls multiple slave bulbs via Bluetooth (they need an appliance module). I think X10 will soon be obsolete.
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Not true, Dan! An Android app can run on any Android device - including the cheap android tablets from many manufacturers - probably even the x10 one if you hack it so you can get to the Google app store.
And you can bet on Amazon both selling the bulbs and providing an app that runs on their new Kindle Fire tablets.
I don't have or want a smart phone. Cell phones are for calling people, not everything under the sun.
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I don't have or want a smart phone. Cell phones are for calling people, not everything under the sun.
Oh Dan, you are just an old Luddite! rofl
(I don't have a smartphone either :' )
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I don't have or want a smart phone. Cell phones are for calling people, not everything under the sun.
Nor do I have/want a smartphone.
But, unlike you, I actually read (and even understood) the entire LIFX web page so I know a smartphone is NOT a necessity.
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I don't have or want a smart phone. Cell phones are for calling people, not everything under the sun.
So, Dan, do you not even know what a tablet is??? Because my post specifically said "including the cheap android tablets". I didn't say a damn thing about a smart phone!! If you're not going to actually read someone's post before you reply, why don't you just keep your opinions to yourself?
ITguy
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Amen ITguy!
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I don't have or want a smart phone.
You're entitled to not have or want a smartphone, but I'm not sure what this has to do with the topic of this thread.
Cell phones are for calling people, not everything under the sun.
Right. That's what SMARTphones are for. ;)
Again, I still don't see how this has any relevance to this topic. We are discussing a new type of light bulb with embedded automation circuitry. We are not discussing the merits of smartphones.
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I don't have or want a smart phone. Cell phones are for calling people, not everything under the sun.
Nor do I have/want a smartphone.
But, unlike you, I actually read (and even understood) the entire LIFX web page so I know a smartphone is NOT a necessity.
I know what a tablet is, my wife has one, but she leaves X10 to me.
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I know what a tablet is...
I would hope so. After all, the tablet, stylus and pictographs have a long history in communication. Even old stick-in-the-muds should know about them. ;)
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuneiform_script
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There are at least two more players introducing wireless LED lighting systems. Looks like a trend.
- http://www.technologyreview.com/view/506556/apple-sells-philips-color-shifting-wireless-lights/
- http://prod.www.technologyreview.com/view/429721/wi-fi-led-light-bulbs-gateway-to-the-smart-home/
Dan Lawrence will not like some of the things in the second article. rofl
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we've got Hue!!!
www.meethue.com/
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I don't have or want a smart phone.
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Wifi is where it's at! ... or where it is expected to be at... at some near-future time. I recently setup a new HD Home Theater (for someone else). I placed the Blueray, Audio (receiver-amp), and cable box in an equipment room with a Logitech Harmony Link (http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/harmony-link?crid=1240). Then I setup two iphones, one ipad, and an itouch to control the theater... using the home wifi network, thier own apple devices, and the Logitech Harmony Link.
I use a android tablet at my house (like the ones sold by X10 at one time) and have set it up to view my security cameras. I know my wifes ipad is much more useable for much of what I'd like to do. But I haven't decided to take that step... yet.
As the apps and wifi devices expand (if that indeed does happen)... it could be awesome. Our smartphones could replace all our remote controls... even replace the need for IR remotes. With wifi locks the smartphone can replace our keys. The phones can replace coupons as stores can scan downloaded or emailed bar or QR codes right on the phone. These things can even generate creditcard or bank account information and replace wallets.
But.... I am still a little ticked that there isn't going to be any flying cars. I really thought the future would have flying cars.
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HA Dave
"But.... I am still a little ticked that there isn't going to be any flying cars. I really thought the future would have flying cars".
In time my dear fellow your wish will come true. Just wait a bit longer.
IPS
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Considering the nuts on the roads now, Flying cars would be total craziness.
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But.... I am still a little ticked that there isn't going to be any flying cars. I really thought the future would have flying cars.
Sorry to make you wrong Dave...
www.terrafugia.com
http://vimeo.com/15477279
;D
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Sorry to make you wrong Dave...
www.terrafugia.com
http://vimeo.com/15477279
;D
Ah yes.... sorta like The Bob Cummings Show. His little car towed the wings in a trailer.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bob_Cummings_Show
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It predated his show.
- http://www.smithsonianmag.com/video/The-Incredible-Flying-Car-of-the-1950s.html
But that should be categorized as WhyFly not WiFi. ;D
And, while not WiFi, Insteon has a dimmable LED light bulb with all the electronics (PLC & RF) in the base. However, I'd be a bit leery of spending $30 on a bulb given their track record on quality.
- http://www.smarthome.com/2672-222/INSTEON-LED-Bulb/p.aspx
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And, while not WiFi, Insteon has a dimmable LED light bulb with all the electronics (PLC & RF) in the base. However, I'd be a bit leery of spending $30 on a bulb given their track record on quality.
http://www.smarthome.com/2672-222/INSTEON-LED-Bulb/p.aspx
The previous bulb required a "device" for the wifi part as well. This INSTEON bulb... if I understand it correctly... requires the INSTEON hub (http://www.smarthome.com/2242-222/INSTEON-Hub/p.aspx)... For tablet/phone/wifi control.
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The previous bulb required a "device" for the wifi part as well. This INSTEON bulb... if I understand it correctly... requires the INSTEON hub (http://www.smarthome.com/2242-222/INSTEON-Hub/p.aspx)... For tablet/phone/wifi control.
The first WiFi device (lifx) in this thread only needed WiFi for the initial setup and used Bluetooth after that for operation.
I haven't dug deeply into the details on the Insteon bulb but think you would need the hub only for remote connections. Local control can be done with their handheld remote or with their PC interfaces (functionally equivalent to CM11/CM15). There's a link to the user manual on the page I referenced. Brian is much more current than am I on Insteon although I'll need to soon dig into it again as the hardware I've been working on should be released in early 2013.
- http://davehouston.org/roZetta-Zarduino.htm
On other WiFi operated devices it may be possible to control them from any handheld tablet, phone etc. using peer-to-peer and eliminating the need for a hub or router.
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........... Brian is much more current than am I on Insteon although I'll need to soon dig into it again as the hardware I've been working on should be released in early 2013.
- http://davehouston.org/roZetta-Zarduino.htm
That looks AWESOME!
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That looks AWESOME!
Thanks.
Based on quotes from the Chinese company that will build them, the price will be attractive as well. While the final decision on pricing will be made by the distributor I'm working with (whose prices are aggressive), I'm confident these will be very affordable and deliver maximum bang for the buck.