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🔌General Home Automation => Other Automation Systems => JDS/Stargate => Topic started by: JeffVolp on June 14, 2018, 06:06:25 AM

Title: JDS Technologies Status
Post by: JeffVolp on June 14, 2018, 06:06:25 AM
The JDS Technologies website is in a "parked" condition.  JDS made the well known Stargate years ago, and more recently HomeRunner RBI.  Both supported X10 automation.  Amazon reports that HomeRunner RBI is currently unavailable.  Have we lost another of our X10 controller suppliers?

Jeff
Title: Re: JDS Technologies Status
Post by: HA Dave on June 14, 2018, 12:16:48 PM
Sooner or later...….. sales will always reduce the competition to 2 or 3. There are a LOT of automation flavors out there right now. There will be fewer in the future. 
Title: Re: JDS Technologies Status
Post by: Brian H on June 14, 2018, 02:58:33 PM
Sounds like we may have lost another X10 controller manufacturer.

ACT dropped their A10 line. Maybe a few years ago now.

Smarthome has said Insteon modules will no longer support an X10 Primary address in them. Though unofficially some still do but I suspect that can change at their discretion. Since they where sold last year to Richmond Capital Partners. Who knows what direction they will now go.
Title: Re: JDS Technologies Status
Post by: brobin on June 14, 2018, 08:18:26 PM
I was in touch with Jeff Stein today and he said all is well and he's consolidating his website so it's offline right now.

 I started using his Time Commander product around 1995 and a few years later upgraded to the Stargate product.  The Time Commander was basically a sophisticated X10 controller with extremely flexible programming capabilities.  The Stargate built on that with the addition of multiple serial ports, RS-485 & digital & analog inputs and relay outputs.  On top of that, an optional telephony card could be added that could dial calls, answer and provide auto attendant with voice and sound effects and, of course, provide X10 and relay control. Another board was developed to provide an internet interface and server as well as support Palm Pads (remember those?) and send email.  There was also support for RCS thermostats (both X10 & RS-485) and tight integration with Caddx alarm panels. There was also an IR add-on, LCD keypads and an I/O expander and more.  I still use Stargates in two homes to this day and maintain some spare boards.  When the UPB protocol came out there was an update to interface to that too.  I've yet to find a product that offers as much flexibility.

 Jeffs most recent product was the HomeRunner RBI which is an Insteon & X10 controller and acts as a server. This was developed just before apps became the latest & greatest. 
Title: Re: JDS Technologies Status
Post by: JeffVolp on June 14, 2018, 08:45:09 PM
That's great news!

We were using the old blue clock X10 timer when the Time Commander came out.  I wanted to buy one, but it was beyond our budget.  Then I became a beta tester for the CM11A and never released CM14A.  I looked at HomeRunner RBI when it replaced Stargate, but at the time it did not support extended commands.

Maybe Jeff Stein has something else up his sleeve for the future.

Jeff
Title: Re: JDS Technologies Status
Post by: brobin on July 10, 2018, 04:47:41 AM
The JDSTechnologies site is back up at: http://www.jdstechnologies.com/hrrbi/
Title: Re: JDS Technologies Status
Post by: JeffVolp on January 31, 2019, 11:04:57 AM
A customer asked me about alternate X10 controllers.  He needs one that sends pre-set dim commands.  Back when I considered the JDS HomeRunner RBI for our own system I believe it supported pre-set dim commands.  But when I checked again today, HomeRunner seems to have been discontinued.  The link to purchase it on the JDS website appears to be broken.  Does anyone know its status or if JDS has replaced it with something else?

Jeff
Title: Re: JDS Technologies Status
Post by: brobin on January 31, 2019, 04:01:31 PM
The product had limiited success and I believe has been discontinued but I believe it does support preset dim as the Stargate does. I was a beta tester on the HRRBI and still have one connected though not really doing anything. It supports both X10 & Insteon. Jeff Stein, the owner of JDS is a great guy and if you call or email him you might find that he has one available. I know you guys would enjoy talking to each other!
Title: Re: JDS Technologies Status
Post by: JeffVolp on January 31, 2019, 04:20:17 PM
I heard back from Jeff Stein.  HomeRunner RBI was discontinued, and none are available.  He didn't respond to my question whether it was replaced with a newer product.

Jeff
Title: Re: JDS Technologies Status
Post by: brobin on January 31, 2019, 04:46:08 PM
Nothing I know of is in the works. Jeff's in the same age group as many of us here and I think he's spending more time on his musical interests.  I'm holding on to the HRRBI I have as a backup for the web interface board in the Stargate. It's the only board for which I don't have a spare and the HRRBI can serve as a networked front end to the Stargate if I ever need it.
Title: Re: JDS Technologies Status
Post by: Delphi1 on December 03, 2020, 09:10:26 PM
Hi guys,
Does anybody have a copy of the HRBI program? No place to download it from.
Thanks.
Title: Re: JDS Technologies Status
Post by: brobin on December 03, 2020, 09:53:29 PM
I'll send whatever I have in the morning.
Title: Re: JDS Technologies Status
Post by: brobin on December 04, 2020, 01:16:37 AM
UPDATED 12/31/20:

Here's a link to the HRRBI software. 

https://anonfiles.com/931cC34cxf/HRRBI_v1.22_bin

Link updated 1/2/22
Title: Re: JDS Technologies Status
Post by: Delphi1 on December 04, 2020, 09:46:22 PM
Thanks Robin, I appreciate it.
Title: Re: JDS Technologies Homerunner
Post by: rnk on December 31, 2020, 04:29:41 PM
Hi All:

Does anybody have a copy of the Homerunner RBI program? Can't seem to find. Windows crashed and I lost my copy.

Thanks.
Title: Re: JDS Technologies Status
Post by: brobin on December 31, 2020, 05:27:11 PM
Happy New Year guys! 

Here it is.  Supposedly this link won't expire:

https://anonfiles.com/931cC34cxf/HRRBI_v1.22_bin

Link Updated 1/2/22
Title: Re: JDS Technologies Status
Post by: caseysv on January 01, 2022, 11:28:47 PM
Hi,

If possible, could someone make available the final HRRBI software/firmware?  I am using v.1.20.   I also have WebX firmware v31, which was the latest available when I had downloaded HRRBI v.1.20.

I'm very sad to see JDS Tech. close.  I think it's been about 24 years I've been using SG. 

- Sean
Title: Re: JDS Technologies Status
Post by: brobin on January 02, 2022, 06:41:14 AM
Hi Sean, Welcome and Happy New Year!

Here's a link to v1.22.  Long live JDS! Stargate & HRRBI forevah!

https://anonfiles.com/931cC34cxf/HRRBI_v1.22_bin

Supposedly this link is good for several years but if someone is reading this and it's not, just let me know.
I've edited the previous replies with this new link as well.
Title: Re: JDS Technologies Status
Post by: bkenobi on January 02, 2022, 12:05:42 PM
Have you tried contacting JDS?  I looked at their site and they claim software updates so imagine they should have a copy available.  Of course, I don't know if they charge for such a convenience. 

http://jdstechnologies.com/hrrbi/

The page looks old and broken though so don't know if they are even still around.
Title: Re: JDS Technologies Status
Post by: brobin on January 02, 2022, 12:12:49 PM
The link to the download on his page is broken but AFAIK the version I posted is the last one to be released.  The link I posted should be good for 5 years IF the site it's hosted on lasts that long (the previous one didn't last a year).  If it breaks I'll repost it on request.  I have my JDS files backed up three ways to Sunday and I'm happy to share them.
Title: Re: JDS Technologies Status
Post by: bkenobi on January 02, 2022, 06:32:27 PM
I often find that I can get some of this type of content by dropping the page link in the internet archive.