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🖥️ActiveHome Pro => ActiveHome Pro General => Topic started by: X10 Pro on February 04, 2005, 09:53:23 PM
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Thanks to everyone who helped identify these.
Some important fixes:
- Fixed a problem that caused conditional
timers not to run.
- Fixed a problem that sometimes caused
events not part of a macro to occur when the
macro ran.
- Fixed a problem with saving Hardware
Configuration settings on Windows 98/ME
computers.
- Fixed a problem with loading
latitude/longitude data when AHP started.
Please check and save Hardware Configuration
information.
- Fixed a problem with the encoding of some
"Between" times conditions for Smart Macros.
- Fixed a problem with the encoding of flag
commands on some Smart Macros.
- Fixed "Edit Module" not applying changes
to House and Unit Code, and room location.
You can download the update installer
directly from here:
http://software.x10.com/pub/applications/activehome/ahp_updt.exe
You can roll back to v3.178 if necessary by
running:
http://software.x10.com/pub/applications/activehome/ahp_updt_178.exe
We still have a couple problems outstanding,
including timers that are run from the PC not
working correctly. We'll have another update
early next week.
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Well, it fixed two problems I was having:
1. signals not part of a macro being
spuriously generated
2. Incorrect dawn/dusk times being shown
in conditionals.
However, it hass created a new one. The
dawn/dusk resolution cannot be set to
anything other than "8 days." Changing
this to any of the other settings and
selecting "download to interface" does not
save the setting. It always comes back
as "8 days."
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In the hardware config area there is a
pulldown for setting the dusk/dawn
resolution that seems to work just fine on
my updated version of AHP.
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I take that back. Mine is doing the same
thing
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Like an idiot I should have left well enough
alone. I was running fine on version 3.175.
I update to 3.179 and I can't even clear the
interface memory or download my timers. It
is taking over three minutes to get the
confirmation popup that the interface memory
is cleared. Then when I download timers all
of my lamp modules go 100% bright then dim
to 20%. Then the x10nets program takes 100%
processor. I had to cold boot the PC to
recover. I'm running this on a Windows 2000
Server with SP4. Is there any way I can go
back to version 3.175?
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Just updated to 3.179 (win 98SE) seems to
work ok. I still don't get status of
modules (appliance 2 pin, for sure) that
were activated when the s/w was off.
Shouldn't you get the "real" status (on or
off) of each module whenever you run the
s/w? If you don't how can you ever know what
is on or off etc without running around the
house to check!
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I initially had to reboot my Win98SE
machine after doing the update, because of
very long delay times when trying to select
the hardware configuration. However after
the reboot it appears to be working ok.
Clearing the interface memory takes around
30 seconds or so on my setup.
"Time Between Dusk/Dawn and.." conditionals
finally seem to be working properly in
3.179 too!
I also see the problem with dusk/dawn
resolution being 'stuck', but in my case
its stuck at 4 days (which was what I
happened to be using previously). It goes
back to the 4 day setting whenever I try to
change it and update the interface.
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People have been complaining about it
taking longer to clear the interface
memory. If you read the release notes from
release 3.177 it says:
- Clear interface memory now clears all of
the interface, not just initial area.
(Takes more time now, too.)
As far as being able to change the
dusk/dawn resolution, for me it is at 1
day, which is what I had before and what I
want. I don’t want to play with it for
fear of it sticking on something else, but
I would suspect that it sticks on the
setting you previously had.
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My dusk/dawn resolution was 2 days and
after update, it changed to 4 days and now
its stuck on 4 days, no big deal.
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Len: Most X10 modules are receive only and
so the only way for the software to know
the status of modules is for the controller
to remember it. The CM15a will only
remember the status (monitor it the term
they use) one house code of your choice and
if the status of a module was changed
locally the CM15a has no way of knowing
this. The status of modules on all other
house codes is assumed off when you start
the software.
Having said all that, some modules can both
transmit and receive. These are called 2-
way modules. When there status is changed
locally, they transmit a command to say
that this has been done and the controller
can see that. Also the controller can poll
the status of a 2-way module. I am not
sure if when you start the software if it
automatically poles the status of the 2-way
devices though, or if you have to do that
manually.
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With V3.179 I'm a happy camper again. Thanks
X10, for putting in the extra effort to
improve the product.
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Thanks Roger H. for your info.
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Just wanted to say thanks to X10 and don't
stop now. My CM15A has performed very well
for a month now. I keep it disconnected from
the computer and update AHP each time an
upgrade becomes available. It just gets
better. My system consists of 4 motion
sensors and about 20 (lamp,appl and wall
switch, flood) modules. I have several timers
and macros running. Some macros respond to
RF and others from dusk to dawn or motion
signals. I have timers to turn things off in
the evening and on in the morning. It's all
working on cue ! The problem is, the better
and more reliable it gets, the more we want !
So, pass a "Thank You" to the staff for
getting the reliability back in and the big
bugs out. There are loads of us out here
that really do appreciate your efforts !
Kindest Regards,
Steve
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but shouldn't it work just as well CONNECTED
to the computer? Logging is the main reason
I chose to upgrade....
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I'm completely down. I can't even download
my timers with version 3.179. I now get the
following error during download: "An error
has occurred while communicating with your
ActiveHome USB Interface. To make sure
that your timers and macros continue to
run, click OK to download your settings to
the interface." I was running fine for two
months on version 3.175. Is anyone else
having this problem?
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I'm having a serious new problem with
v3.179. Installation went well and I was
able to work with my file, do downloads to
the cm15a, etc. I then saved my work and
moved on.
Later I tried to open the program and it
crashed before opening. The error message
said:
ActiveHm.exe - Application Error
The instruction at "0x77e76bc2: referenced
memory...........
I did a new download of the installer and
re-installed 3.179, Once again it worked
fine, but after closing AHP it crashed
again on restart. Rebooting the computer
did no good. If it makes any difference I'm
running XP home.
Anyone else having a similar problem?
--Nelson
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I just dont understand... I am running XP Pro
SP2 on a Dual P3, have no problems connected
or disconnected from the USB. I run
disconnected as a norm. Installed in late Dec
2004. I must have a fluke to give such
little trouble while everyone else seems to
have such trouble... Only time I had a glitch
was when it did not recognize connection to
the USB and I removed batteries, cleared
memory and reloaded..all was fine from
there... go figure..hummmm...
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SteveRF..
Why do you think x10.com has put out all
these updates? Because the CM15A works so
great? Your'e just lucky, go fiqure.. hmmmm
that..
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I had the same problem, is the #@%$#@^%#^%
web upgrade install , it does not always
load the proper files, I had to delete
ActiveHomePro folder and X10 folder ( in
Common files), than install using the
original setup I got when I purchased
ActiveHomePro ( what a mistake), then
install “smart macros” and finally upgrade
to 3.179.
Because I had trouble with macros ( v3.168)
I tried any version I could find a link for,
of course it got so bad that the only way
was to manually remove all the junk , than
start fresh; the uninstall from the “Add
remove program “ does not work , I am
running WinXPpro with service pack 2.
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Tom, make sure the CM15A has a good reset.
(Unplug it from AC power and USB and
disconnect the batteries; reassemble & try
again).
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I found the 3.175 update and restored that
version. I'm now back up and running. They
broke something with the releases after
3.177. I could not get any of those
versions to download my timers to the CM15A.
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I also had no problem downloading 179 but
when it tried to start up it gave an error
message "Error Getting X10NET Interface" and
stopped at that point. I went to the
ahp_updt.exe displayed earlier in this post
and the program started without problem
after update. However everthing ran very
slow. When I clicked on Hardware
Configuration it took about 20 seconds
before it would display, same as Activity
Monitor and others. When I tried to delete
some modules the program failed and on
restart gave the X10net interface error
again. Went back to the ahp_updt.exe
location again, updated again and the
program started, this time no delays in
displaying items. However failed again when
I tried deleting some modules. Again
ahp_updt.exe, again came up but was back to
very slow. I just gave up. Windows 98.
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I have watched everything very close since
the upgrade to 3.179 and have found all
timers and macros still working as
programmed. I have had no trouble with the
upgrades (installing) yet..fingers still
crossed. I guess I need to set up a timer or
macro that is failing for others so I can see
why mine seems so stable... I leave it
disconnected from PC 24/7. I can't believe I
have the one fluke that works all the time.
I must not have asked it to do something
strenous yet ! System: 20 modules, 4 macros
and 8 timers, 1 passive 220v coupler,
XPPro/SP2 all updates incl net frame on Dual
P3...
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To SteveRF
Are you using "Smart macros" with flags,
Dusk,Down and "if Time is Between"
conditions?
I have a new problem now: ActiveHomePro
appears to work,but if I leave the interface
connected and "Activity monitor on" the
computer crashes and reboot.This started
after I installed the DSK, I manually
removed the DSK "the uninstall does not
work" and reinstalled ActiveHomePro, but the
problem still exist
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..Carmine
I am using Smart Macros, dusk/dawn time,
timers (for on and off), delays etc but have
not used the "if time is between" and have no
flags set other than a test macro to set or
remove all flags on house code "C".. Would be
most happy to set up something for a spare
module and see what happens. I am using house
codes B,C,and D with monitored house code set
to "C".
regards,
Steve
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With regard to my earlier message about
3.179 crashing, I have now discovered it
will not crash if I have the cm15a usb
cable plugged in when I start AHP. This was
not necessary in earlier versions of AHP.
Earlier post:
Re: ActiveHome Pro update v3.179 available
Nelson 2/5/2005 06:57 PM
I'm having a serious new problem with
v3.179. Installation went well and I was
able to work with my file, do downloads to
the cm15a, etc. I then saved my work and
moved on. Later I tried to open the
program and it crashed before opening. The
error message said: ActiveHm.exe -
Application Error The instruction
at "0x77e76bc2: referenced
memory........... I did a new download
of the installer and re-installed 3.179,
Once again it worked fine, but after
closing AHP it crashed again on restart.
Rebooting the computer did no good. If it
makes any difference I'm running XP home.
Anyone else having a similar problem? --
Nelson
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I downloaded the 3.179 update. I plugged the
CM15A in and got it up and working. I only
have 4 devices in my house right now. 3
light switches and a lamp module.
I have 2 macros. G8 On turns my ceiling fan
light on, and then dims it to 50%. G8 Off
brightens the light to 100% then 5 minutes
later it turns it off. First time it worked.
I tried anything a little later. Nothing
worked. After about 6 reboots of Win2k I
finally figured out my USB problem.
Everytime I would plug the CM15A in it would
be recognized as just a USB Device. Even
after manually updating the drivers for it.
I removed the batteries and plugged it into
the wall and Win2k got it everytime after
that.
Next, Active Home Pro won't run now. It just
locks up after starting. I uninstalled and
reinstalled version 3.168 which came with
mine. I then updated it and cleared my CM15A
and downloaded it again. All 2 macros.
Removed it from upstairs, took it back down
to the outlet I use. Macro works on and off.
After it goes off. Nothing works. If I
unplug the batteries it will controls the
lights. I try the macro. It turns the light
on. But will not turn it off.
If I use the SmartHome 1132cup how can I
have all house code all house code
transceiver ability to duplicate what the
CM15A does?
Not sure I want to put up with this much
more.
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Steve...
You sure seem to be having trouble. I have
had very little trouble and sure wonder about
my setup. The ONE thing that gave me a bit
of trouble at first (in December) was
crossing electrical phases. I did have
modules that did not work every time. After
installing a passive ($19.95) 220v coupler my
problems went away. Have not had any trouble
upgrading versions and have had no
lockups..none.. but I am at a loss as to why
... My System: 20 modules, 4 macros
and 8 timers, 1 passive 220v coupler,
XPPro/SP2 all ms updates incl net frame on
Dual P3.
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I took my CM15a and "checked" the housecodes
I use (four), then stretched the antenna out
of the case to improve reception (see photo &
notes) and turned it upside down.
http://forums.accessx10.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=88
Then removed all timer/macro programming
(except the time zone)AND removed the
batteries. Then plugged it into a good/high
outlet and it has acted as my RF transceiver
for all codes - ever since.
Getting a refund from X-10 is nearly
impossible anyway, so I kept the CM15a as a
tranceiver (for the $50 bucks it cost).
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Steve,
"If I use the SmartHome 1132cup how can I
have all house code all house code
transceiver ability to duplicate what the
CM15A does?"
If money is no object and you want to go
with the smarthome setup, I'd suggest
researching this for the All House
Transceiver, its plug and play if you don't
need to exclude any housecodes/unitcodes.
Here is a place to buy the RF to powerline
one:
http://www.hnausa.com/detail.aspx?ID=181
Here is the RF to PC one(for use with
certain home automation software, to reduce
powerline traffic):
http://www.hnausa.com/detail.aspx?ID=183
And here is the manufacturers webpage:
http://www.wgldesigns.com/index.html
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Yo, X10, Was this suppose to fix the macro
timer problem. Well, it didn't for me. My
AHP is still totally useless to me. Are
you still working on this???????? No new
bugs here, no crashes, just that it doesn't
do anything I want, as has been the case
since day 1.
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I also have the dusk-dawn resolution problem,
with Ver 3.179. Mine is stuck on 8 days and
will not change, I was running at 1 day
before the upgrade. Running ME with a Asus
mother board.
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We're going to look at these problems today.
The problem with changing dusk/dawn
resolution should be very easy to fix. It
will take a little more work to figure out
why the program isn't running for some people.
Jeff: What macro timer problem do you mean?
Running them from the PC is still not working
right, but we are working on it.
Len: When not connected to the PC, the CM15A
isn't able to update the status of two-way
modules using the Monitored House Code
tracking because it doesn't decode extended
code commands (even the ones that it sends
itself). The basic status update we do with
the interface when it is re-connected will
not then show the two-way module's status.
However, we can do a status request to each
two-way module to correct that. I'll see
about us adding it.
Tom Sweet: I'm pretty sure I know what the
problem you're having is, and I've sent you
an e-mail about it.
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X-10 - I've got a question on your statement
in the last post -
"Len: When not connected to the PC, the
CM15A isn't able to update the status of
two-way modules using the Monitored House
Code tracking because it doesn't decode
extended code commands (even the ..."
I've got lots of 2-way Switchlincs. Lets
say I manually turn on B-3, in addition to
turning on the light the switch will send
out a B3 ON command. I was hoping to use
that "B3 ON" command to trigger a macro
stored in the CM15A. Are you ssaying the
CM15A will not understand the B3 ON sent out
by my Switchlinc?
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ARF: Sending B3 On from a SwitchLinc should
be tracked fine, both for triggering macros,
and if B is the Monitored House Code.
It's not the two-way modules that aren't
tracked; it's extended code commands. So,
sending A1 On to a two-way module will be
tracked correctly. If the receiver sees A1
Extended Code 5A 12, though, it won't trigger
a macro with that, or update the status in
the Monitored House Code tracking (5A 12
probably isn't a real command, it's just for
example).
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thanks for the quick response, X10. I've
heard a lot about these "extended code"
commands, but not really sure who / what
devices send them out?
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Thanks for response X10. Yes a manual
request for status would be useful. I still
have to delete old "dll" files from common
folder in order to install updates (Win
98SE). Should we have to do that? If yes
put a "readme" file or simular with the new
updates or better yet, fix the problem.
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X10: No, I'm not running from the PC, but
from the CM15. I download the timer, shut
down AHP, but leave the PC up and connected
to the CM15. I have two macros that are
suppose to start at specific times daily
and they aren't starting. I kicked the one
off this morning from an HR12A remote and
it seemed to run fine from there. If you
want more details, lemme know and I'll send
you an email.
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Jeff: Send me your AHP file. I saw a problem
today that I think could have something to do
with the problem you're seeing, but it would
be good to confirm with another customer file.
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Done
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My timers and macros have never worked
properly. I installed the interface a few
days ago. I have 2 macros and 5 timers. Two
of the timers call the macros. The timers
start at the expected times, run for a
while, but then everything stops. I
added 'pauses' between turning modules on
in the macros with no help. I looked at the
interface time and it was synchronized with
the PC (the Dusk/Dawn resolution resets
itself to 8 days, even though I selected
4). I see that a lot of people are having
problems with AHP, but I haven't been able
to run even ONE timer / macro end-to-end.
Is this a defective interface?
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Julian -
HaHaHaHaHa!
Sorry. Essentially no one's CM15A works
properly with timers and macros when
disconnected from the computer. X-10 has
been working for 4 months to try and fix
it. They are still claiming it is a
software issue, and will be fixed,
eventually. Some forum users are certain it
is harware or a non-fixable firmware
problem. To give X-10 credit, they have
been trying hard and have fixed many bugs,
but the "biggy" is still eluding them.
Whether it is tomorrow, next month, or
never to get fixed, no one knows. Don't
waste your time / postage on a replacement
unit. Either accept its flaws and the
gamble as to whether they will get fixed,
or simply return it for a refund.
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Julian...
My timers and macros have always worked...
BUT.. I have a few differences. I close AHP,
pull out the USB (literally just pull it out)
and relocate the CM15a HIGH in the utility
room A/C cubby. I have a short power strip
located vertically at ceiling height which
puts the CM15A antenna nearly on the ceiling.
I did, at one time, have difficulty seeing
some of my motion sensors because of range
and poximity to my noisey and X10 signal
snuffing PC. Things did not always work just
right when the unit was plugged into the PC
near the floor but always seemed to be due to
weak signals from a motion sensor. The
utility room has a breaker box and I
installed a passive 220v coupler in a
receptacle box near the breaker. I dont use
House Code "A". I use B,C and D with
monitored house code set for C. Transeivers
set for "specific" and only B,C and D marked.
I have 18 modules, 8 macros (some with
timers) and 7 pure timers. Some macros
traverse midnight, some set or clear flags,
some have delays, etc... All function as
expected. I am Running dual P3, WinXP
pro/SP2 with all updates. BUT I keep my
fingers crossed everday that my CM will keep
working.
regards, steve
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actually, the only advantage AHPro has to me
over AH1.42 is logging (XP drops the COM port
connection after a while), so if it's not
reliable WHILE CONNECTED. It's useless to me
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Jeff W - you nailed my problem - I was happy
with AH 1.42 for my needs, but it can no
longer find a "valid" com port (out of 2) to
connect with, and that is much of my
problem. Any ideas how to get my XP Pro
machine to open up the COM Ports? Yes, I've
tried hardware manager, etc. Ports are IN
USE, but I have no idea by what...
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ARF: Are you running as an Administrator?
I have heard of issues regarding ports not
being available in XP unless you are an
administrator.
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Well, it fixed two problems I was having:
1. signals not part of a macro being
spuriously generated
2. Incorrect dawn/dusk times being shown
in conditionals.
However, it hass created a new one. The
dawn/dusk resolution cannot be set to
anything other than "8 days." Changing
this to any of the other settings and
selecting "download to interface" does not
save the setting. It always comes back
as "8 days."
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Ernie Stari:
What may I ask was your point in "quoting" jim lytle's post? ???
Are you trying to indicate that you are having similar problems, maybe?
Well, it fixed two problems I was having:
1. signals not part of a macro being
spuriously generated
2. Incorrect dawn/dusk times being shown
in conditionals.
However, it hass created a new one. The
dawn/dusk resolution cannot be set to
anything other than "8 days." Changing
this to any of the other settings and
selecting "download to interface" does not
save the setting. It always comes back
as "8 days."
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SteveRF..
Why do you think x10.com has put out all
these updates? Because the CM15A works so
great? Your'e just lucky, go fiqure.. hmmmm
that..
Yeah what's up with x10 why O why can't they get this thing right I'm not an x10 brasher I just want and expect the hardware/software to function as claimed like in all those x10 adds, you know those adds they flood your mailbox with, my system is sort of running although a simple macro I constructed sends multiple dim commands and I've been promised a fix for a couple of months now and the problem still persists and occasionally occurs. Like I've often said this product has incredible potential but is still plagued by hardware (range) and software issues 4 years latter. The thing that bugs me is that this software isn't that complicated at least that's what a friend of mine tells me that has a masters in computer science from Purdue. He bought the CM15a after he saw mine even though I told him about the software and range issues, he says the programing is pathetic, I have to admit that in the past I might of had a few minor issues with a piece of software but never nothing like this never and I mean I've bought a LOT of software just image if this was an operating system we would have never gotten pass DOS!!
Tom j
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Yeah what's up with x10 why O why can't they get this thing right I'm not an x10 brasher I just want and expect the hardware/software to function as claimed like in all those x10 adds, you know those adds they flood your mailbox with ...
<snip>
There was a joke reported to be widely circulated in the old Soviet Union:
Q: According to the radio our collective farms are producing bumper crops, but my refrigerator is always empty. What can I do?
A: Plug your refrigerator directly into your radio.
So get the "myHouse Online" plug-in and forward X10's email ads directly to your ActiveHome Pro program. :D
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X-10 - I've got a question on your statement
in the last post -
"Len: When not connected to the PC, the
CM15A isn't able to update the status of
two-way modules using the Monitored House
Code tracking because it doesn't decode
extended code commands (even the ..."
I've got lots of 2-way Switchlincs. Lets
say I manually turn on B-3, in addition to
turning on the light the switch will send
out a B3 ON command. I was hoping to use
that "B3 ON" command to trigger a macro
stored in the CM15A. Are you ssaying the
CM15A will not understand the B3 ON sent out
by my Switchlinc?
Say do your Switchlincs work with AHP I mean can you create timers with the Switchlincs? I bought several Levition 6381's and assumed they were compatable because they were listed under "lamps" in the AHP software, they work perfect with basic remotes but I can't create any timers. Thanks
Tom j
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I suggest that any posts not dealing directly with AHP version 3.179 be either moved to the proper areas or deleted and the topic should also be deleted.
3.179 was issued on 2005-02-04 and was promptly replaced with version 3.180 just 12 days later. 3.180 was replaced by v3.183 on 2005-03-23. That's two years ago!!
Virtually every user of AHP has upgraded to the current 3.204.
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Well, it fixed two problems I was having:
1. signals not part of a macro being
spuriously generated
2. Incorrect dawn/dusk times being shown
in conditionals.
However, it hass created a new one. The
dawn/dusk resolution cannot be set to
anything other than "8 days." Changing
this to any of the other settings and
selecting "download to interface" does not
save the setting. It always comes back
as "8 days."
Say Jim could you give a few examples of this please1. signals not part of a macro being
spuriously generated Thanks!
Tom j
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Ernie Stari:
What may I ask was your point in "quoting" jim lytle's post? ???
Are you trying to indicate that you are having similar problems, maybe?
My W.A.G. would be that Ernie Stari, Newbie, " accidentally " CLICKED on QUOTE, then POST and then, not knowing what to do, LOGGED OFF.
If I had noticed it before you, I would have simply DELETED it, letting this " aged " thread continue to Rest-in-Peace, instead of BUMPing it to the top of the stack, encouraging others to post to it. ::)
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Ernie Stari:
What may I ask was your point in "quoting" jim lytle's post? ???
Are you trying to indicate that you are having similar problems, maybe?
My W.A.G. would be that Ernie Stari, Newbie, " accidentally " CLICKED on QUOTE, then POST and then, not knowing what to do, LOGGED OFF.
If I had noticed it before you, I would have simply DELETED it, letting this " aged " thread continue to Rest-in-Peace, instead of BUMPing it to the top of the stack, encouraging others to post to it. ::)
You know I couldn't agree more with what you said on the Leviton products they really are superb, and I don't mind the extra cost and buy them when ever I can, cuz the quality is really excellent. If x10 would just make an effort to improve overall quality and some designs, my CM15a has a range of may 15 feet on a GOOD DAY!
Tom j