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🔌General Home Automation => Original ActiveHome => Topic started by: INeedSomeHelp on July 06, 2006, 02:51:15 PM
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Will I be able to control socketrocket modules with CM11A interface? Thanks.
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You should be able to controll it although you may not be able to set it up using the CM11. For setting up the socket rocket you will need a wired controller.
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Hey, Thanks for the quick reply. I have TM751 and lamp modules. Will I be able to program it with this? Or do I need seperate controller? Thanks again.
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I believe that the instructions that come with the socket rocket state that a wired controller is needed.
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Yes. It says wired contraller. I'm new to this and not sure what controller I need to get. Is this controller used for anything else or just programming socketrocket? Thanks.
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Check this link out
http://www.x10.com/automation/plugin_controllers.html
This is one example of what they are referring to. The controller for $12.00 can be used to turn modules on and off.
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Thanks. I will try that.
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...I have TM751 and lamp modules. Will I be able to program it with this? Or do I need seperate controller?
I believe that the instructions that come with the socket rocket state that a wired controller is needed.
I thought that I've done it with a PalmPad... ??? [Try it - what do you have to lose? ;) ]
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yes i have set many up with a palm pad
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...For setting up the socket rocket you will need a wired controller.
A wired controller is clearly the easiest way to program a socket rocket!!!
I have, however, heard of them being setup by pushing the button on a motion detector via a transceiving module. Really a pain in my opinion but possible in a pinch if there isn't a wired controller around.
Bottom line there may be more than one way to "skin the cat" but a wired controller is a cheap investment that will get used on a regular basis. Every X10 user should have at least 1 or 2 around the house.
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In CM11A you set a screw rocket as an appliance module. Then you can set on and off with any control.
M.K.
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M.K. and INeedSomeHelp:
To program the Socket Rocket you have to send it three or more On signals in succession. The problem with using the CM11A with the original ActiveHome software is that the switch icon is set up to look like an On/Off switch - you have to flip it Off before you can flip it On again.
It _might_ be possible to put the On signal in a macro and just execute the macro three times, however if ActiveHome pretends to be "smart" like ActiveHome Pro, it may figure it doesn't need to send another On when it _knows_ the switch is already On.
Using a PalmPad or other remote along with a TM751 or RR501 Transceiver will work. The transceivers are "stupid" enough to do just what you tell them, not what _they_ think is better for you.
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FWIW
Call your corner Radio Shark and see if they have any Catalog #: 61-3001 in store.
http://www.radioshack.com/search/index.jsp?kwCatId=&kw=plug%20n%20power&origkw=plug%20n%20power
They are the same as the X10 mini controller and Radio Shark is dumping them for $3.
I bought spares and keep them in the freezer for freshness ;)
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I think this should work with the CM11A but it has been a while since I have played with one.
The following is from the X10 knowledge base.
Programing Your Socket Rocket Without A Remote
From X10Wiki
[edit]Questions
How can I program my socket rocket without a remote?
[edit]Answer
If you purchased an ActiveHome Pro kit without a remote, you can still program your LM15A by initially defining it as a Chime Module. You will also need a small lamp.
Expand the Modules category in the Group Pane (left side of the screen) and click on the Other subcategory. Drag the SC546A Remote Chime (it receives only an On command, necessary to LM15A programming) to the top half of the screen. Select the House and Unit code you want your LM15A at, and hit OK.
Without the Socket Rocket installed, confirm that the lamp is turned on; then unplug it from the wall without turning it off. Remove the bulb, screw in the Socket Rocket, and screw the bulb back in.
Plug the lamp into an outlet next to the ActiveHome Pro Computer Interface. Immediately start clicking repeatedly on the Remote Chime icon. Continue clicking until the lamp comes on or thirty seconds have passed.
Right-click on the Remote Chime and select Edit Module. Change the Type of Module to Lamps, then change Module to Socket Rocket and click OK.
Retrieved from "http://kbase.x10.com/wiki/Programing_Your_Socket_Rocket_Without_A_Remote"
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...If you purchased an ActiveHome Pro kit without a remote, you can still program your LM15A by initially defining it as a Chime Module....
Clever way around the ON/OFF switch problem.
If you need to program several Socket Rockets, go ahead and set them all up as Socket Rockets if you have that option or just appliance modules if the CM11A doesn't include Socket Rockets. (I don't remember.)
Then build a chime module for programming them.
e.g. Say you have 3 Socket Rockets on HC/UCs "B1", "B2" and "B3". After setting each up a Socket Rockets in the program, use a chime module, per the above instructions, changing it's code from "B1" to "B2" and "B3".
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I just pulled up ActiveHome for the CM11A and it does in fact include the SC546 Chime module (as does ActiveHome Pro for the CM15A).
So that's the way to go to program a SocketRocket: Define a Chime at the housecode/unit address desired for the SocketRocket. Within 30 seconds after powering up the SocketRocket, click the Chime module icon switch three or more times in succession a second or two apart. When the light bulb in the SocketRocket turns On, that signifies that the Socket Rocket has learned the new address.
steven r:
I don't think the old ActiveHome will allow you to define more than one module at a given housecode/unit address in a given program file - you have to create a separate file for the SocketRocket programming.
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steven r:
I don't think the old ActiveHome will allow you to define more than one module at a given housecode/unit address in a given program file - you have to create a separate file for the SocketRocket programming.
Although I (think that I) interpreted steven r differently (3 modules at 3 different HC/UC Addresses), ActiveHome [Original] will indeed let you assign as many PLC Receivers you wish to 1 Address.
IIRC, it gets 'fussy' >:( with Macros and Motion Sensors... (which is why I had to use B4 instead of F4 for my '> > > 1½-Way Status Indicator < < <' (http://www.x10community.com/forums/index.php?board=7;topic=9550.0#msg56464))
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Take The Active and Steven R:
Whoops, you're correct!!! I looked again and wonder if something was changed in the later releases. I seem to remember jumping through hoops when I wanted to rearrange module addresses with the original ActiveHome - I had to first reassign the module at the destination address to an unused address before I could assign a different module to that destination address. (Although I may be remembering wrong and it was only macro addresses.)
But I notice that there now appears to be a built-in automatic programming mode in ActiveHome for the LM15A Socket Rocket - if I select LM15A from the module menu, a window pops up saying to turn on the power and press OK to set the address. (I don't know how well it works.)
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...But I notice that there now appears to be a built-in automatic programming mode in ActiveHome for the LM15A Socket Rocket - if I select LM15A from the module menu, a window pops up saying to turn on the power and press OK to set the address. (I don't know how well it works.)
When was that added?
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...But I notice that there now appears to be a built-in automatic programming mode in ActiveHome for the LM15A Socket Rocket - if I select LM15A from the module menu, a window pops up saying to turn on the power and press OK to set the address. (I don't know how well it works.)
When was that added?
It's in Version 1.32 (B2.0.69).