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artk

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Wall Outlet problems
« on: November 11, 2006, 07:00:07 AM »

I have a SR227 wall outlet which my deck lights are connected to. I have a timer set to 6pm ON and 7am OFF. The lights shut off at the right time  (7am) but will not come on. I've tried 4,5,7pm nothing. Any ideas ???
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Re: Wall Outlet problems
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2006, 09:35:26 AM »

I have a SR227 wall outlet which my deck lights are connected to. I have a timer set to 6pm ON and 7am OFF. The lights shut off at the right time  (7am) but will not come on. I've tried 4,5,7pm nothing. Any ideas ???

Do the deck lights turn on and off when you toggle the switch on the SR277 icon in AHP?

What happens if you unplug the CM15A from your PC and plug it into the bottom (unswitched) outlet on the SR277?

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Re: Wall Outlet problems
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2006, 09:58:46 AM »

The switch works with the palm pad remote control and the rf style switch. I have not tried the  CM15A  in the unswitched outlet. I think the outlet is working correctly.
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Re: Wall Outlet problems
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2006, 10:09:00 AM »

The switch works with the palm pad remote control and the rf style switch. I have not tried the  CM15A  in the unswitched outlet. I think the outlet is working correctly.
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artk: I don't believe Charles was question the outlet, as much as the electrical distance (and possible noise) between the controller and the outlet. [Looking to eliminate variables.  ;) ]

Charles: Good guess on the CM15A;D
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Re: Wall Outlet problems
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2006, 10:38:35 AM »

The switch works with the palm pad remote control and the rf style switch. I have not tried the  CM15A  in the unswitched outlet. I think the outlet is working correctly.
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artk: I don't believe Charles was question the outlet, as much as the electrical distance (and possible noise) between the controller and the outlet. [Looking to eliminate variables.  ;) ]

Charles: Good guess on the CM15A;D


Puck,
You're correct - the test is intended to move the controller as electrically close to the switch as possible, and what could be closer than the unswitched socket on the same device.

As far as "guessing" the CM15A, it was an oversight on my part that I hadn't noticed the interface wasn't specified by the OP.

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Re: Wall Outlet problems
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2006, 10:54:13 AM »

As far as "guessing" the CM15A, it was an oversight on my part that I hadn't noticed the interface wasn't specified by the OP.

After I made my post I checked through artk's 17 Posts, and found that on his very first one (and only there), he did mention AHP & CM15A. Flickering Fluorescent Light

Then I thought, WOW... What an Awesome Memory  8)
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Re: Wall Outlet problems
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2006, 11:05:22 AM »

As far as "guessing" the CM15A, it was an oversight on my part that I hadn't noticed the interface wasn't specified by the OP.

After I made my post I checked through artk's 17 Posts, and found that on his very first one (and only there), he did mention AHP & CM15A. Flickering Fluorescent Light

Then I thought, WOW... What an Awesome Memory  8)


It'd be nice if it were so.   :)

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Re: Wall Outlet problems
« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2006, 04:45:15 PM »

I will try that tonight. The  CM15A  is now 15' away the palm  pad is 25' away.
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Re: Wall Outlet problems
« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2006, 08:26:32 PM »

I will try that tonight. The  CM15A  is now 15' away the palm  pad is 25' away.
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The CM15A can be physically 15' away but electrically 200' away.

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Re: Wall Outlet problems
« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2006, 12:26:12 AM »

Just to throw in my 0.02, does the deck light outlet work when just controlled from the CM15.  I realise that is probably a stupid
thing to ask, but nowhere did I see that.  Now that I am typing this, it seems even dumber, but just pushing the deck lights
module on and off from AHP would easily verify if the CM15 could send the signal.  If the lights go off via the CM15, I assume
the signal gets to the wall module???  Am I being dumb? 

I really am amazed at how well you guys can remotely diagnose this stuff.  I always seem to get lost in the details and this is
probably one of those cases.  I don't mind showing off my ignorance, that's how I learn, but after I read the little discourse
between Charles and Puck I realize how good you guys really are.  If I am there, I can fix it, but I've always had trouble trying
to remote diagnose.  You guys just shock me with your insights.  (Keep it up...)

Good Luck Artk, and I'll be watching to see what happens.  (Learning new stuff IS the FUN part...)
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Re: Wall Outlet problems
« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2006, 03:05:00 PM »


The switch works with the palm pad remote control and the rf style switch...

ArtClark's post got me to RE-READ this entire thread:

  • What is translating the Palmpad and RF Style Switches RF to PLC?
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  • Is there a RR501 or TM751 also installed?
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  • *IF* the CM15A is the *ONLY* RF to PLC translator, well then, it must be working, eh? ???
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Re: Wall Outlet problems
« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2006, 03:09:24 PM »


Do the deck lights turn on and off when you toggle the switch on the SR277 icon in AHP?

artk: What is the answer to Charles' previous question?
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Re: Wall Outlet problems
« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2006, 03:36:28 PM »


Just to throw in my 0.02, does the deck light outlet work when just controlled from the CM15.  I realise that is probably a stupid thing to ask, but nowhere did I see that...

But, you see, it *WAS* asked and remains UNANSWERED. :o Which prompted me to RE-READ everything and post my previous question.


...Now that I am typing this, it seems even dumber, but just pushing the deck lights module on and off from AHP would easily verify if the CM15 could send the signal.  If the lights go off via the CM15, I assume the signal gets to the wall module???  Am I being dumb? 

Not at all! You're stating the OBVIOUS! :)


I really am amazed at how well you guys can remotely diagnose this stuff.  I always seem to get lost in the details and this is probably one of those cases...

In my case, it's:

  • Experience: You've certainly heard the saying "Hindsight is always 20/20". ;)
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  • Reading: When I take an interest and "latch" onto a new forum, I spend HOUR after HOUR reading the Archives (Being ill and not working gives one PLENTY of spare time! ;) ).  Once you identify the Gurus, combined with using Advanced SEARCH, you can RAPIDLY gain new knowledge in a subject.
    Perhaps that's a reason the 'not-so-computer-savvy ' NEWBIEs fail to find their answers - maybe they're only using the BASIC SEARCH? ???
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  • Learning: Just participating in attempting to answer questions is sometimes a "Learning Experience" as you pick up new ways of doing old things *OR* re-clarify a previous mis-understood theory.


Learning new stuff IS the FUN part...

That, Mr. Clark, is the KEY. 8)

And, when it stops being fun, you need to step back and ask yourself why. :-\

P.S. What program do you compose your ORIGNAL replies in? I noticed when I QUOTED you that there were hardcoded CRLFs.
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Re: Wall Outlet problems
« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2006, 05:40:56 PM »

Guys, Not sure if this has already been covered, but I just put in an outlet to control some over cabinet lights and for some strange reason, everytime I try to turn them off they come back on in about 5 seconds.  The computer doesn't show a command to turn them back on, but they do.  I switched out the outlet to make sure that was not the problem, and sure enough same problem remains.  Any Ideas?  O yea the lights are fluorescent (wonder if this is causing this?)
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Re: Wall Outlet problems
« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2006, 05:44:25 PM »


...Not sure if this has already been covered...

...Any Ideas? 

...O yea the lights are fluorescent (wonder if this is causing this?)

Yes, yes and most likely... ;)
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