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[marineau]

I'm intersting to buy W800RF32, and disconnect TM751...

Note that on my CM15a, I disabled(electronic) a RF receiver ...

I know that a TM751 is faster than CM15A to turn ON a Lamp when use a SS13A remote

I have two questions:

Is the V572 faster than TM751 for turn ON a lamp ?

Is the W800RF32 on my PC with CM15A(with RF disable) to send on PowerLine faster than TM751 ?

Thanks

[Brian H]

Do you have the proper software to process the raw data the W800RF32 send in serial data to the computer. It does not directly process X10 RF signals and send them on the powerline. A program has to take the raw data and act accordingly.
Can't say about the v572 as I never compared it to a CM15A; RR501 or TM751.

[marineau]

Do you have the proper software to process the raw data the W800RF32 send in serial data to the computer. It does not directly process X10 RF signals and send them on the powerline. A program has to take the raw data and act accordingly.
Can't say about the v572 as I never compared it to a CM15A; RR501 or TM751.

Yes, it's easy for me to read a serial port and analyze a data value ! Just send command to powerline if I want or not over my CM15A with SDK !!!

I just needing to know a speed before to decide to buy or not !!!

Thanks

[vhoang]

You can get it very fast.
Two things to cosider...

1.  windows/os overhead (W800) vs rom coding (TM751)
2.  repeat response.  The tm751 will wait for repeat signal detection to validate before transceiving.   your program can respond faster if you can prove that the first signal is a complete good signal.

got some notes on (de)coding for the w800 on my website : see profile.

goto froogle.google.com : search for w800rf32a for best price.  (sort price low to high)

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Very hard to test response time on V752 relative to T751, both "seems" about the same.

[marineau]

Very hard to test response time on V752 relative to T751, both "seems" about the same.

I just read this on another forum and get these values:
M1 ON for execute Macro C1 ON

RF to TM751 (M1 ON )= .068 for a first block set
tm751 to CM15A M1 ONtake 36 AC cycles =  .6
CM15A to PC (for Macro)M1 ON = .008
Software verify if a Macro would be sent or not = .001
PC to CM15A C1 ON= .008
CM15A to PowerLine C1 ON= .6
     Total = 1.29 sec

RF to W800 M1 ON= .068 for a first set
W800 to PC (for Macro) M1 ON= .008
Software verify if a Macro would be sent or not = .001
PC to CM15A C1 ON= .008
CM15A to PowerLine C1 ON= .6
     Total = 0.677 sec

Note that I use a CM15A for send signal to PowerLine, and that his RF receiver is disable(electronic) !

If use a CM15A so:
RF to CM15A M1 ON= .068 for a first block set
CM15A to powerLine take 36 AC cycles M1 ON=  .6
CM15A to PC (for Macro) M1 ON= .008
Software verify if a Macro would be sent or not = .001
PC to CM15A C1 ON= .008
CM15A to PowerLine C1 ON= .6
     Total = 1.29 sec

- I believe that for a Macro, I will can send them in PowerLine when I want ...
- I want install seven MS-14A and I believe that I will can send (minimum) to powerline according to a schedule.
- I believe that I could define each SS13A as I want (M1,M2,M3 to B2,B7,B9) !

I tried to use a CM15A for receive RF signal and send a signal to powerline ... the CM15A sending all command to PowerLine same if it east intends has macro ! After , CM15A waits until this order either finishes to send a real command !!! So a delay was too long ! But if other RF signal incoming while process, so many other delay can be observed...

Is what you believe this exact ?

[vhoang]

If use a CM15A so:
RF to CM15A M1 ON= .068 for a first block set
CM15A to powerLine take 36 AC cycles M1 ON=  .6
CM15A to PC (for Macro) M1 ON= .008
Software verify if a Macro would be sent or not = .001
PC to CM15A C1 ON= .008
CM15A to PowerLine C1 ON= .6
     Total = 1.29 sec

Because it works as standalone transceiver it will send the RF signal onto the powerline.   
It doesn't need to come back into the pc for the macro.   

Because the powerline is occupied at this point (M1 Transceiving) C1 needs to wait.

Check to see if transceiving can be disable on the CM15A.

If you use extended RF code (non transceivable signal), C1 On can fire immediately.

MS10A can send security code to the CM15A without being converted onto the powerline immediately.

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But you are correct, in the current setup, each standard RF signal received by the CM15A will wait in line
to get onto the powerline and your macro fire-ing will make the line longer.

[marineau]

Check to see if transceiving can be disable on the CM15A.

Yes, I just enabled RF on CM15A, disonnected Tm751, and just tried and work like you said me, but if I send a command to power line, a delay exist before a second event "-1" (when release button)... and impossible to send command between "0" and "-1" event

I remembrer to try like this 2 months ago, but a range RF CM15A was too bad, so I bought and added TM751 in my house, but sometimes any Duplicate RF signal was difficult to manage !
I tried to increase RF range with external antenna like that I read on MOD forum, but was again too bad !

[marineau]

Does a MR26 do a same JOB that W800RF32A ?

Merci

[vhoang]

http://www.wgldesigns.com/w800_vs_mr26.html

Detection range on the W800 is much much much better.
It has an external antenna connected via coax, and works better
even without the antenna attached.